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David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:54:00 - [1] - Quote http://imgur.com/SrUBfe1 http://imgur.com/a4K1s7c http://imgur.com/qjtCnt3 This is cheating.This is the **** I scream about. He is untouchable, and yet can place shots without fear. If you go on the MCC you should die instantly.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3452	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:57:00 - [2] - Quote Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13215	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:57:00 - [3] - Quote Hiding on the MCC? Eh its been done...... that was so last year. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Michael Arck 5394	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote Just what the hell am I looking at and how does a screenshot exposes cheating? Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5464	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:16:00 - [5] - Quote Again, apparently I'm a cheater because i don't take damage when i am shot sometimes. My hometown beat Manchester united. Git gud man utd. 4-0
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 1226	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:19:00 - [6] - Quote Shotgun + Dropship = Dead MCC Sniper
Funkmaster Whale Seituoda Taskforce Command 2393	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote This would never be a problem if we got rid of the stupid redline or at least made the redline even for both sides. Follow me on Twitch.tv!
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 476	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:30:00 - [8] - Quote I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch? Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 313	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:35:00 - [9] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox?
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:42:00 - [10] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch? Cuz the ****** cheater was still on the MMC shield but could shoot out. It is exploiting a glitch and it is classifide as cheating. Not one bullet could hit him, but he could shoot anyone else.

David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:46:00 - [11] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. until you faggots learn how to play without cheating, I see no problem with sitting back and putting one through your skull.
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2094	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:01:00 - [12] - Quote I wouldn't be too concerned. From the F&I forum Hotfix Delta Narrative thread. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players snip Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter. snip Certain Domination maps with the MCCs close in are the worst offenders for this. So it is being looked into. Considering the altitude the MCCs sit at any range reduction is going to hurt and/or kill that play style. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 782	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:03:00 - [13] - Quote David Mustane wrote: http://imgur.com/SrUBfe1 http://imgur.com/a4K1s7c http://imgur.com/qjtCnt3 This is cheating.This is the ** I scream about. He is untouchable, and yet can place shots without fear. If you go on the MCC you should die instantly. This guy need to be banned for LIFE. all you Cheaters out there, each one of you will have a Screenie and it will be posted for all to see. calm yourself. file a ticket. pray to what ever gods or demons you worship that some one bans his ass [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah**
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 478	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:38:00 - [14] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch? Cuz the ****** cheater was still on the MMC shield but could shoot out. It is exploiting a glitch and it is classifide as cheating. Not one bullet could hit him, but he could shoot anyone else. Bit this is the game, you all exploit one glitch to the next. Hilltops, shooting through and around corners,, explosions through solid walls, burry uplinks to be untouchable. But no, none of you cheat in any way. Not trying to be a smart ass, but are you sure you were hitting him? Like I said, there was someone doing the exact same thing earlier today and I sniped his ass right off the MCC without issue. If there is a glitch/exploitation, then you are right. He should be punished and I would classify that as cheating. I'm just asking because I came across the same issue and I WAS able to hit the guy perched on top of the MCC. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 429	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:42:00 - [15] - Quote Was this photo taken from the opposing mcc? ;) Lonewolf till I die
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1688	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:48:00 - [16] - Quote People get their knickers in a bunch so easily. The MCC has an invisible ceiling that you must move to the edge of in order to hit anything. otherwise your just shooting the roof of the MCC. If he can hit you, you can hit him. The only advantage MCC confers, beyond an excellent sniping position, is that you can be fooled into thinking you can hit him, when really your hitting the MCC. Moving away from the MCC will allow you to hit him. Shoot Scout with yes.
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 721	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:53:00 - [17] - Quote Advice for those of you reading wondering what you can actually do in the meantime: If you're getting killed by a sniper and cant tell where its coming from, try zooming in to the enemy MCC on the spawn screen and listen closely. You may actually be able to hear the sniper firing from the map screen. This works in other very high altitude areas too, as long as you can get the map camera close enough. The MCC has a large, invisible hitbox that extends past the model which makes sniping confusing, even for the player abusing the MCC. The MCC sniper himself must be standing on the edge of the hitbox to be able to shoot over it. You may need to move to a higher position or further away from the MCC to get the correct angle, don't try to shoot until the target info is displaying the stats of a dropsuit. On some maps you can get close enough to snipe them with a forge gun, which will instantly end the life of a brick tanked sniper and terminate his clone. Otherwise use a tactical sniper rifle. The tactical sniper rifle is the ultimate counter-sniper, virtually guaranteed to land two headshots before the target can even react, giving it higher realistic damage over even a charge sniper rifle. Don't have forge guns or sniper skills, or you tried and tried and hit nothing but the MCC? Buzz the enemy MCC with a militia dropship. You don't even have to land on it, get close enough where they can hear the engines and most will freak out and jump, at which point you can just fly away. You'll have wasted a couple minutes of their sniping time and some of their isk to get up there again (dropships explode on contact with the MCC, even when trying to gently land on it), and he'll spend the rest of the match worried about you trying again, lowering his efficiency. Practice flying with the dropship enough and you can push them off the MCC yourself or even slam it down on top of him for a roadkill. If you want to get out to kill him, you'll want to use something that can quickly kill him in one shot, like a plasma cannon, because he will be standing right on the edge in a brick tanked suit ready to jump at the first sign of danger.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries 690	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:54:00 - [18] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch? Cuz the ****** cheater was still on the MMC shield but could shoot out. It is exploiting a glitch and it is classifide as cheating. Not one bullet could hit him, but he could shoot anyone else. Bit this is the game, you all exploit one glitch to the next. Hilltops, shooting through and around corners,, explosions through solid walls, burry uplinks to be untouchable. But no, none of you cheat in any way. I hate getting killed around corners. It's one of the things that makes me the most angry in this game. Why am I still here yet?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1152	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: People get their knickers in a bunch so easily. The MCC has an invisible ceiling that you must move to the edge of in order to hit anything. otherwise your just shooting the roof of the MCC. If he can hit you, you can hit him. The only advantage MCC confers, beyond an excellent sniping position, is that you can be fooled into thinking you can hit him, when really your hitting the MCC. Moving away from the MCC will allow you to hit him. Or hop in a derp with a HMG and I'm sure you won't miss their @$$ then and even if their in a heavy suit , like it seems this person was ... they will be no match . I love hoping in a derp with a HMG and going sniper hunting , no way i'm just going to let someone counter-snipe me and get away with it . If I know where your at , I'm coming for you if possible . I use to have it done to me , so why not return the favor ? I have never MCC snipe before .. I think that's cheep and tasteless but that's just me and I haven't used a heavy suit to snipe since I have increased my core . I had prototype sniper rifles way back when and had no points in my core and that's why I did it then but haven't done it since . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:59:00 - [20] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: People get their knickers in a bunch so easily. The MCC has an invisible ceiling that you must move to the edge of in order to hit anything. otherwise your just shooting the roof of the MCC. If he can hit you, you can hit him. The only advantage MCC confers, beyond an excellent sniping position, is that you can be fooled into thinking you can hit him, when really your hitting the MCC. Moving away from the MCC will allow you to hit him. yeah and this guy found the one spot to exploit to make the shield take effect only one way, IN. I normally have a good shot on anyone that sits on the MCC. This guy was cheating,

Zindorak 1.U.P 798	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:00:00 - [21] - Quote Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:00:00 - [22] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Was this photo taken from the opposing mcc? ;) nope. I found a direct line shot, even with his height.
Yeeeuuuupppp Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 569	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:02:00 - [23] - Quote Not cheating, head glitching, popping over the barrier just enough to shoot, but hidden just enough to not get sniped. Now, if you recorded dropping an orb on him and watch him survive, that's evidence of cheating. This is just the mcc trolling you Wannabe Slayer PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:02:00 - [24] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Yeah but when you can shoot out from a spot and not take damage it is cheating. Sit on the MCC, but I get to hit you if your up there. Make it so any1 on the MMC die instantly.
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:03:00 - [25] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Not cheating, head glitching, popping over the barrier just enough to shoot, but hidden just enough to not get sniped. Now, if you recorded dropping an orb on him and watch him survive, that's evidence of cheating. This is just the mcc trolling you It is an exploit and there for cheating. I'm sorry your too stupid to understand what exploiting is.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 749	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:16:00 - [26] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: I wouldn't be too concerned. From the F&I forum Hotfix Delta Narrative thread. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players snip Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter. snip Certain Domination maps with the MCCs close in are the worst offenders for this. So it is being looked into. Considering the altitude the MCCs sit at any range reduction is going to hurt and/or kill that play style. they should just lower the flight ceiling again. it solves MCC sniping and aids swarmers take down ADS guys, they at least have to fly forwards instead of straight up to avoid the swarms then Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2579	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:17:00 - [27] - Quote So, he gets the KILL, but doesn't experience DEATH at a RATIO you find unacceptable. If only he could meet his MATCH, MAKING his tactic useless. Certain FIXES need to be implemented to compensate for THIS. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the *whole* game. That's a promise.
Zindorak 1.U.P 798	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:18:00 - [28] - Quote Here's an idea take yo lazy butt with a DS or ADS and shoot that guy. Also you can't put Links on the MCC only hives Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:35:00 - [29] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Here's an idea take yo lazy butt with a DS or ADS and shoot that guy. Also you can't put Links on the MCC only hives one its in the red line so it sort of impossible. two i die whenever i touch an enemy MMC, tried twice to get on up there. Never tried again. three, no one should be allowed to exploit the game machanics, and stay. These abusers need to be ban, and not just by Accounts, ban them by IP.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 315	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:37:00 - [30] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Zindorak wrote: Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Yeah but when you can shoot out from a spot and not take damage it is cheating. Sit on the MCC, but I get to hit you if your up there. Make it so any1 on the MMC die instantly. You can do that from certain hillsides outside of the redline too genius



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