Did they start selling BPOs again?

Boycott unless we get a future of Dust/legion press release dev blog, well just anything really.

were not paying for development of a question mark.

not only that but every single damn time theres been a big cash grab like this tradgedy has struck immediatly afterwards.



we do not have faith in what a marketing play like this means for the game, to us it looks like were abou tto get hosed again so if you want us to open our wallets, open the lines of communication and tell us what we are paying for.

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Major cash grabs like this have almost always ended with us players getting hosed immediatly afterwards, so naturally when i see a marketing ploy like this i immediatly begin to think "whats about to go terribly wrong for us"

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While I can see @Ghosts Chance's viewpoint and don't disagree with it, let me just insert a slight contrarian position.

If you have AUR sitting around and aren't using it AND you do not have a BPO then, depending entirely on the pricing, buying a BPO might well be a good thing.

However: You have to know what it is exactly and they have never been honest about such in the past. I have a Raven and a Sever BPOs that they ganked out from under me. I was forced to skill into different trees just to enable using them as they are Racially limited (check the model numbers for C/G/M).

It is important to know that the original BPO (of which these will be a mere reflection) required no SP at all. Now they do.

However, I would expect them to be in the horrifically high price range we saw after Chromosome (or during, I don't recall) which was in the 4K AUR range. Doing any kind of math at all means that much over 1K AUR these are not worth it. A comparable fit will cost a few K ISK so your AUR might be better spent on ... well, a week of passive SP, or some turrets, or your favorite gun, or that PRO gun that you aren't willing to pee away the SP to actually get.

One can always use a Free Fit (the Starter Fits) to gather enough ISK to use a same level suit that these BPOs will provide. If you make even a little profit a comparable fit is easy to fit as these are STD suits.

And back to @Ghosts Chance: I would suspect that you are right. The last thing CCP has ever considered is their customers (yes, that is what we are) as we have been ganked at every turn since Uprising 1.0 on 14/5/2013.

I do not expect them to change their behavior, nor could they being CCP as ganking is what they do.

I propose a boycott of the new BPO sets untill we get some sort of official press release/dev blog/ SOMETHING that gives us an idia of the future of this game post delta and beyond.

Major cash grabs like this have almost always ended with us players getting hosed immediatly afterwards, so naturally when i see a marketing ploy like this i immediatly begin to think "whats about to go terribly wrong for us"


If you want us to open our wallets, then start opening up the lines of communication and let us know exactly what it is we are funding! hell we dont even know if were funding dust, or legion, or both, or niether!

Money for info, its a fair trade CCP.


Boycott BPOs, after all for all we know the servers will be shut down in 6 months and legion is already cancelled.

Rest assured when Legion comes out not a single blueprint will make the jump across if they stick to the pay-per-death revenue plan.

While I can see @Ghosts Chance's viewpoint and don't disagree with it, let me just insert a slight contrarian position.

If you have AUR sitting around and aren't using it AND you do not have a BPO then, depending entirely on the pricing, buying a BPO might well be a good thing.

However: You have to know what it is exactly and they have never been honest about such in the past. I have a Raven and a Sever BPOs that they ganked out from under me. I was forced to skill into different trees just to enable using them as they are Racially limited (check the model numbers for C/G/M).

It is important to know that the original BPO (of which these will be a mere reflection) required no SP at all. Now they do.

However, I would expect them to be in the horrifically high price range we saw after Chromosome (or during, I don't recall) which was in the 4K AUR range. Doing any kind of math at all means that much over 1K AUR these are not worth it. A comparable fit will cost a few K ISK so your AUR might be better spent on ... well, a week of passive SP, or some turrets, or your favorite gun, or that PRO gun that you aren't willing to pee away the SP to actually get.

One can always use a Free Fit (the Starter Fits) to gather enough ISK to use a same level suit that these BPOs will provide. If you make even a little profit a comparable fit is easy to fit as these are STD suits.

And back to @Ghosts Chance: I would suspect that you are right. The last thing CCP has ever considered is their customers (yes, that is what we are) as we have been ganked at every turn since Uprising 1.0 on 14/5/2013.

I do not expect them to change their behavior, nor could they being CCP as ganking is what they do.

I'm mainly pissed because these BPO's are apparently easier to implement than the proper color schemes for suits already in the damn game. There's the real reason for these "priorities" taking up resources over coloring the dropsuits, we're simply not paying for them, so CCP doesn't care.

They aren't being implemented, they are being re-enabled for purchase, they never left the game

It's possible that the new commando skins will make it into delta or failing that, echo, perhaps they might make a pass on the unassigned skins to the current suits during that time

Okay, not being rude here. But you've already spent money to gain items in a video game. That really is enough reason to say no to it in the first place. But if you choose to purchase in game items, then you've it should be done with the understanding that you are paying for in game items for entertainment. The money you spend on microtransactions should be done with the understanding that the money you just spent is expendable.

I dont pay a ticket price to see a movie so that the theater will stay in business. I spent it for entertainment.

I feel that mindset should be used here. Every AUR purchase or pack Ive bought, I have done so for my want of entertainment or acceleration of skills gained. I didnt do it because I expected a promise that game be here tomorrow.

I know the risks just as much as I know purchasing a PS4 ackowledges that the console doesnt belong to me but to Sony.

I'm mainly pissed because these BPO's are apparently easier to implement than the proper color schemes for suits already in the damn game. There's the real reason for these "priorities" taking up resources over coloring the dropsuits, we're simply not paying for them, so CCP doesn't care.

Wrong

Welcome to America. You have the right to have those opinions.

@Ghosts Chance has the right to his. Leave him to his, he can leave you to yours.

The isuue here is entitlement. I know Im right about this but entitled individuals will feel otherwise. You are treating microtransactions as if its stock or an investment, which it is neither.

Typing up novels doesnt change the truth. Entitlement is a problem with the lot of gamers.

We are in final testing, but we are really hopeful we have been able to pull it off.