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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:05:00 -
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Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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White-Lion
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
24
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:10:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. You know you don't have to run your ads until you're broke in to the ground. Why not run cheap scout with a militia shotgun and cloak for some time. It will help you get better on the ground and save your bit of isk. I, in my opinion, am a good ads pilot, but that doesn't mean I always run ads. Sure I'll run some here and there when I need to or just get mad at the game, but I usually run scouts in pub matches so that I'm actually doing the objective of the game and geting more $$$. |
ZB DeLong
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:55:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. Maybe... Just maybe... Avoid the "morons in gorgons"?
Hope this helped! =ƒÿâ
Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3596
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:56:00 -
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White-Lion wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. You know you don't have to run your ads until you're broke in to the ground. Why not run cheap scout with a militia shotgun and cloak for some time. It will help you get better on the ground and save your bit of isk. I, in my opinion, am a good ads pilot, but that doesn't mean I always run ads. Sure I'll run some here and there when I need to or just get mad at the game, but I usually run scouts in pub matches so that I'm actually doing the objective of the game and geting more $$$. Ambush is also a quick way to make isk.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1336
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:01:00 -
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I don't see how ramming is a broken tactic.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Fix supply depots
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Tectonic Fusion
2073
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:08:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I don't see how ramming is a broken tactic. It's as broken as my using the Plasma Cannon to kill a heavy. It's ******* broken man...
(GIF)
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Ripcord19981
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
587
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:12:00 -
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cant be that moronic if they manage to use there brains and kill u instead of screaming "ads are op"
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13096
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:26:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please.
Boo Hoo
*Screams as a Jihad Jeep rams the side of his tank..... laughs as it ramps off the hull and explodes 20m away.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:38:00 -
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ZB DeLong wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. Maybe... Just maybe... Avoid the "morons in gorgons"? Hope this helped! =ƒÿâ
Here's the truth, the sound of the Python is confusing, you can't tell if you're about to get rammed or is it your python? There havve been many time where I have AB when I think I heard a enemy DS but turns out is is my own.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
951
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:41:00 -
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stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:42:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I don't see how ramming is a broken tactic. It's as broken as my using the Plasma Cannon to kill a heavy. It's ******* broken man...
Imagine if any person ran by your most expensive proto suit and you died instantly. That is how broken it is. The person actually doesn't even have to touch you, they just have to get close. Why Pythons? Why not incubus? Why the F did CCP make shields so weak. Collision damage on Shield dropships is massively broken.
Now Imagine your self running after a gal scout with your cal scout, he jumps off a building about 10m high and takes 10-20 damage, now you jump off and you lose over 120 hp. How is that fair?
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men.
2678
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:42:00 -
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Be like me and
Git turtle beaches!
Bring These Back
i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
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Atiim's ISK Pot
38
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:45:00 -
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My wallet seems to be very happy as of late.
Perhaps you should use ADSs sparingly.
-HAND
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:47:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Please give us a militia ADS and I will use it. Please expain to me why the ADS costs 300k isk more than a STD dropship. It has less HP which gives it better handling and speed and it has less slots and a front mounted turret. Why are we paying 300k extra for a front mounted turret and two less seats? This is stupidity.
Say you specced into scout, and you put over 5 million of your SP into it but the cheapest unfitted drop suit was say 100k isk. Now who the F would want to pay 100k isk.
ADS is overpriced. It's not affordable by anyone but those super rich PC farmers.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:48:00 -
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Atiim's ISK Pot wrote:My wallet seems to be very happy as of late.
Perhaps you should use ADSs sparingly.
Perhaps they shouldn't be overpriced.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men.
2678
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:48:00 -
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Atiim's ISK Pot wrote:My wallet seems to be very happy as of late.
Perhaps you should use ADSs sparingly. I fly ads all the time and manage to go isk positive by the end of the day.
If you are stationary long enough for a slow gorgon or even a grimesnes to ram you then you were not fulfiling the role of a shield assault vehicle which is to do damage and get out.
Bring These Back
i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:49:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:White-Lion wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. You know you don't have to run your ads until you're broke in to the ground. Why not run cheap scout with a militia shotgun and cloak for some time. It will help you get better on the ground and save your bit of isk. I, in my opinion, am a good ads pilot, but that doesn't mean I always run ads. Sure I'll run some here and there when I need to or just get mad at the game, but I usually run scouts in pub matches so that I'm actually doing the objective of the game and geting more $$$. Ambush is also a quick way to make isk.
This thread isn't about me being too poor to run them. It's about ADS being way overpriced.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1178
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:50:00 -
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my incubus survives about 40% of rammings where the rammer is the only one who crash and burns.. it's kinda a thrill when their ram fails. if me or my gunner is pwning infantry i start to expect it and can sometimes predict when it's gonna happen, my gunner also starts to look for it. i stand a better chance if he is on. a good experienced gunner does wonders for ADS
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:51:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Atiim's ISK Pot wrote:My wallet seems to be very happy as of late.
Perhaps you should use ADSs sparingly. I fly ads all the time and manage to go isk positive by the end of the day. If you are stationary long enough for a slow gorgon or even a grimesnes to ram you then you were not fulfiling the role of a shield assault vehicle which is to do damage and get out.
But why does this broken sh*t exist??!!!?!?! This doesn't happen to incubus. This doesn't happen with shield dropsuits so why the fu*k does it happen to the python??? WHY??
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3220
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:51:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Imagine if any person ran by your most expensive proto suit and you died instantly. That is how broken it [getting rammed by another derpship] is. ... How is that fair?
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like when an ADS shows up and I don't have an AV weapon. :-/ I agree that's pretty unfair.
We can solve both problems by removing the ADS. :D
(I fully support jihad jeeping and ramming derpships both as tactically sound maneuvers and balanced emergent gameplay.)
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:55:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Imagine if any person ran by your most expensive proto suit and you died instantly. That is how broken it [getting rammed by another derpship] is. ... How is that fair? Yeah, that's exactly what it's like when an ADS shows up and I don't have an AV weapon. :-/ I agree that's pretty unfair. We can solve both problems by removing the ADS. :D (I fully support jihad jeeping and ramming derpships both as tactically sound maneuvers and balanced emergent gameplay.)
Except it takes more skill to fly ADS than to lock and shoot with swarms. A militia swarmer can keep an ADS at bay for the whole match if you still don't know.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
539
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:57:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Please give us a militia ADS and I will use it. Please expain to me why the ADS costs 300k isk more than a STD dropship. It has less HP which gives it better handling and speed and it has less slots and a front mounted turret. Why are we paying 300k extra for a front mounted turret and two less seats? This is stupidity. Say you specced into scout, and you put over 5 million of your SP into it but the cheapest unfitted drop suit was say 100k isk. Now who the F would want to pay 100k isk. ADS is overpriced. It's not affordable by anyone but those super rich PC farmers.
Hey now I fly an ADS too from time to time, and to answer your question. Does that scout suit cross from one red line to the other red line in less than 10 seconds? Can that scout pelt other vehicles and infantry to death? Can that scout fly high into the sky where nothing but other flying scouts can touch them?
Yeah no, I think the ADS is fine where it is. If you want to only play pilot wings all the time then get some turret friends and run some Gorgons. |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:06:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Please give us a militia ADS and I will use it. Please expain to me why the ADS costs 300k isk more than a STD dropship. It has less HP which gives it better handling and speed and it has less slots and a front mounted turret. Why are we paying 300k extra for a front mounted turret and two less seats? This is stupidity. Say you specced into scout, and you put over 5 million of your SP into it but the cheapest unfitted drop suit was say 100k isk. Now who the F would want to pay 100k isk. ADS is overpriced. It's not affordable by anyone but those super rich PC farmers. Hey now I fly an ADS too from time to time, and to answer your question. Does that scout suit cross from one red line to the other red line in less than 10 seconds? Can that scout pelt other vehicles and infantry to death? Can that scout fly high into the sky where nothing but other flying scouts can touch them? Yeah no, I think the ADS is fine where it is. If you want to only play pilot wings all the time then get some turret friends and run some Gorgons.
Sure, but does ADS hack objectives? Does ADS cost 50k isk (price of ADS suit) ? can the ADS kill targets underground? Is ADS invisible? Can ADS scan almost everything? Is ADS more effective at killing infantry? (no it's not) (I wen't 63-4 using an ADS caldari scout shotgun suit, max I've down with ADS is 24 kills). Can ADS hack turrets? Can ADS hack supply depots? Does the Scout suit have missiles that lock onto them and always hit? Does scout suit get killed instantly by slightly bumping another scout?
Anyway, this thread is about price of ADS and nothing else. Those were just examples.
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Commando <3
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
5202
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:11:00 -
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The forums always give!
Not sure whos responses are better.
Anyone who wears an extra suit (tanks, dropships) before you get to the battle.
Be happy
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1845
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:21:00 -
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White-Lion wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. You know you don't have to run your ads until you're broke in to the ground. Why not run cheap scout with a militia shotgun and cloak for some time. It will help you get better on the ground and save your bit of isk. I, in my opinion, am a good ads pilot, but that doesn't mean I always run ads. Sure I'll run some here and there when I need to or just get mad at the game, but I usually run scouts in pub matches so that I'm actually doing the objective of the game and geting more $$$. This makes me even more sad, I love flying more than anything and have inveated heavily into making my dropahips as good as they can be and yet I cannot turn a profit doing so. Seems to me the only way to make profit is to fly in PC but that's not really dropshipping so meh.
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1178
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:22:00 -
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pilot isk payout needs a buff for the various forms of assists
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
539
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:24:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Please give us a militia ADS and I will use it. Please expain to me why the ADS costs 300k isk more than a STD dropship. It has less HP which gives it better handling and speed and it has less slots and a front mounted turret. Why are we paying 300k extra for a front mounted turret and two less seats? This is stupidity. Say you specced into scout, and you put over 5 million of your SP into it but the cheapest unfitted drop suit was say 100k isk. Now who the F would want to pay 100k isk. ADS is overpriced. It's not affordable by anyone but those super rich PC farmers. Hey now I fly an ADS too from time to time, and to answer your question. Does that scout suit cross from one red line to the other red line in less than 10 seconds? Can that scout pelt other vehicles and infantry to death? Can that scout fly high into the sky where nothing but other flying scouts can touch them? Yeah no, I think the ADS is fine where it is. If you want to only play pilot wings all the time then get some turret friends and run some Gorgons. Sure, but does ADS hack objectives? Does ADS cost 50k isk (price of ADS suit) ? can the ADS kill targets underground? Is ADS invisible? Can ADS scan almost everything? Is ADS more effective at killing infantry? (no it's not) (I wen't 63-4 using an ADS caldari scout shotgun suit, max I've down with ADS is 24 kills). Can ADS hack turrets? Can ADS hack supply depots? Does the Scout suit have missiles that lock onto them and always hit? Does scout suit get killed instantly by slightly bumping another scout? Anyway, this thread is about price of ADS and nothing else. Those were just examples.
Well you won't have any arguments from me that scouts aren't pretty broken right now, that said, Being able to go anywhere and harrass anyone on any map with outside objectives is a huge boon to the team.
How much cheaper are we talking anyways? I thought the current ADS was like 225k? I don't pay much attention when I'm buying them as I only skilled into them in the past two weeks and I've got isk for days, yo. |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:26:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:White-Lion wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Because CCP didn't implement the price reduction on ADS. Morons in Gorgons ram my 500k isk dropship and abuse broken tactics that are making my wallet and me sad. Fix please. You know you don't have to run your ads until you're broke in to the ground. Why not run cheap scout with a militia shotgun and cloak for some time. It will help you get better on the ground and save your bit of isk. I, in my opinion, am a good ads pilot, but that doesn't mean I always run ads. Sure I'll run some here and there when I need to or just get mad at the game, but I usually run scouts in pub matches so that I'm actually doing the objective of the game and geting more $$$. This makes me even more sad, I love flying more than anything and have inveated heavily into making my dropahips as good as they can be and yet I cannot turn a profit doing so. Seems to me the only way to make profit is to fly in PC but that's not really dropshipping so meh.
You can profit with everything in the game most of the time except ADS because they have a fixed price. There are no cheaper variants. Also Shields have broken collision damage so it's especially hard to profit with Python because they are much easier to lose. Dropships ramming is broken aswell.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:27:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.
Please give us a militia ADS and I will use it. Please expain to me why the ADS costs 300k isk more than a STD dropship. It has less HP which gives it better handling and speed and it has less slots and a front mounted turret. Why are we paying 300k extra for a front mounted turret and two less seats? This is stupidity. Say you specced into scout, and you put over 5 million of your SP into it but the cheapest unfitted drop suit was say 100k isk. Now who the F would want to pay 100k isk. ADS is overpriced. It's not affordable by anyone but those super rich PC farmers. Hey now I fly an ADS too from time to time, and to answer your question. Does that scout suit cross from one red line to the other red line in less than 10 seconds? Can that scout pelt other vehicles and infantry to death? Can that scout fly high into the sky where nothing but other flying scouts can touch them? Yeah no, I think the ADS is fine where it is. If you want to only play pilot wings all the time then get some turret friends and run some Gorgons. Sure, but does ADS hack objectives? Does ADS cost 50k isk (price of ADS suit) ? can the ADS kill targets underground? Is ADS invisible? Can ADS scan almost everything? Is ADS more effective at killing infantry? (no it's not) (I wen't 63-4 using an ADS caldari scout shotgun suit, max I've down with ADS is 24 kills). Can ADS hack turrets? Can ADS hack supply depots? Does the Scout suit have missiles that lock onto them and always hit? Does scout suit get killed instantly by slightly bumping another scout? Anyway, this thread is about price of ADS and nothing else. Those were just examples. Well you won't have any arguments from me that scouts aren't pretty broken right now, that said, Being able to go anywhere and harrass anyone on any map with outside objectives is a huge boon to the team.
Except when a forgegunner or a militia swarmer appears. ADS is so paperthin that you gotta run when you take even a little damage.
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Commando <3
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
539
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:31:00 -
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I just fly somewhere else if that happens, if half their team is sporting AV so that I can't harrass anywhere on the map me just poking in to say hello is plenty of help for my teams ground forces. Good AV fits make bad anti-infantry fits.
I do the same on the reverse side, where I spend the entire match shooting dropships and tanks only to have them flee and end up with 0 kills.
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