Maybe...
Just maybe...
Avoid the "morons in gorgons"?

Hope this helped! =ƒÿâ

It's as broken as my using the Plasma Cannon to kill a heavy. It's ******* broken man...

stop using expensive toys if your concerned about money.

My wallet seems to be very happy as of late.

Perhaps you should use ADSs sparingly.

Ambush is also a quick way to make isk.

I fly ads all the time and manage to go isk positive by the end of the day.

If you are stationary long enough for a slow gorgon or even a grimesnes to ram you then you were not fulfiling the role of a shield assault vehicle which is to do damage and get out.

Yeah, that's exactly what it's like when an ADS shows up and I don't have an AV weapon. :-/ I agree that's pretty unfair.

We can solve both problems by removing the ADS. :D

(I fully support jihad jeeping and ramming derpships both as tactically sound maneuvers and balanced emergent gameplay.)

Hey now I fly an ADS too from time to time, and to answer your question. Does that scout suit cross from one red line to the other red line in less than 10 seconds? Can that scout pelt other vehicles and infantry to death? Can that scout fly high into the sky where nothing but other flying scouts can touch them?

Yeah no, I think the ADS is fine where it is. If you want to only play pilot wings all the time then get some turret friends and run some Gorgons.

This makes me even more sad, I love flying more than anything and have inveated heavily into making my dropahips as good as they can be and yet I cannot turn a profit doing so. Seems to me the only way to make profit is to fly in PC but that's not really dropshipping so meh.

Well you won't have any arguments from me that scouts aren't pretty broken right now, that said, Being able to go anywhere and harrass anyone on any map with outside objectives is a huge boon to the team.

I just fly somewhere else if that happens, if half their team is sporting AV so that I can't harrass anywhere on the map me just poking in to say hello is plenty of help for my teams ground forces. Good AV fits make bad anti-infantry fits.

I do the same on the reverse side, where I spend the entire match shooting dropships and tanks only to have them flee and end up with 0 kills.

I'd have to disagree on both accounts. Only morons run into sidearm range when I'm AVing. A smart player will just outrange you. SMGs even the assault has pretty garbage range in comparison to other rifles, anyone with a rifle and half a brain won't run into optimal with an AV player.

And as far as the min commando goes, they suffer from the same problem that all commandos suffer from. They are fatties with very low e/hp considering they are fatties. All your shots will land on a fatty and even my assault suits have more e/hp than my commandos, they are about as effective in 1 v 1 combat as logis. Minmmandos are a much greater threat to vehicles with their AV then they are to assault infantry. Commandos generally act as support. Assault make better front line soldiers. Not too mention the hundreds of shotgun scouts always running around that will kill any AV since the AV will be staring at the sky most the time.

Well I run Calmmando so all I do with it is the only thing I ever see Calmmandos do, Snipe lol. And as for Gallente all of their plasma weapons are short range. You should move faster than them just keep your distance. As for scouts, I never get killed by smg scouts so I can't sympathize. It's the shotgun scouts that give me trouble. But I run primarily Caldari everything and Minmitar assaults so smgs generally plink my shields too slowly. SMGs only really kill me as a finisher from their ScR or shotgun.

For dedicated infantry though, AV is a massive liability that in many situations makes you easy pickings. And going back to Caldari and Gallente neither are particularly good with AV. The Caldari get 0 AV bonuses just Rail tech, and the Gallente have the PLC but good luck landing a shot on a fleeing tank or flying dropship in that fat suit.

I've noticed a trend on the forums in that the biggest complaints about ScR and shotguns tend to come from players I know that I've seen run minmitar/caldari. Likewise, most the players I see complaining about ACR/RR and smgs run gallente/amarr. It's amazing what a difference those 110/90 and 90/110 splits make.

It's the same problem that tanks have with Jihad Jeeps. Situational awareness goes a long way towards Jihad Jeeps being a joke. I know a match I had the other day, in which I was running tanks, I had a jeep drive on top of me and I blew it up activating its REs and killing me. Fool me once shame on you! For the rest of the match I blew up about 8 jihad jeeps.

When I fly ADS I get a couple of shots in and move on, you should never be in one place for very long and you should be moving around enough to recognize whom you share aerospace with.

This I learned by being AV. When an ADS sits around for a while pelting infantry, those are the ones I shoot down. Mobility is key in ADS. And fortunately, Mobility is king with ADS, nothing matches its mobility.