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Jakkal Shoobah wrote:

Tebu Gan wrote:

Soulja Ghostface wrote:

You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles

Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0

Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1

Going to point this out because I think this is something people truly do fail to notice. As another guy mentioned, you can shoot back at the proto suit and not need to do anything special, like switch to an AV fit that can be limited against other suits.

But the fact that you "stand a chance" (often times, you don't to begin with), causes people to overlook that and hate on the tank. As they generally can be much harder to engage.

Going to share my recent experiences with tanks and OMS. Ran quite a few matches last night with old friends. Consistently came in the top spot while a LONG time buddy of mine did the same. When we got a regular 50 clone ambush, I went logi and let everyone else do the slaying. And man did we roll most everyone.

What I'm saying here, if you aren't coordinated, you WON'T stand a chance anyways. In more than a few matches, the opposing team was lucky to get our count down by a 1/4. And that was simply due to the blueberries dying.

When we got an OMS, since I'm typically a try hard when in a squad and these fella's know me and my tank VERY well, I pull out my 750K blaster tank. 750K because of the 2 small rails I run on it, one being a proto small and the other an advanced.

///
Side note:
How I love gunners, good ones that is. Just a little side note, when you gun, DON'T EXPECT THE TANK TO ACCOMMODATE YOU. Don't ask him to stop, or attack or whatever. Had a gunner do that before, and man is it annoying. You are there to support the tank, not carry him.
///

Anyways, these guys know what's up and work around me. They wait for me to sound the cue to attack other tanks, give me heads up, and jump out to deal with something if needed. A well coordinated tank team is def something to be afraid of.

So, long story short, my tank ruled the battlefield. So did my tank affect the outcome, sure did. But what I'm getting at, if my tank wasn't allowed in this mode to begin with, no doubt the outcome would have been the same. And it's not like I was getting crazy scores or anything. An average of around 10 kills, not including gunner kills.

And AV was DEF heavy. Had i been a lesser tanker (and I had seen a few out there) I most certainly would have lost more then 2 from my matches. But I know AV, I know my tanks limitations, and I understand how to effectively use cover and still make an impact on the outcome. Not to mention, having 2 gunners shreds enemy tanks when we all fire at the same time(A maddie dropped in literally 3 seconds) What I'm saying is that I'm pretty damn good with a tank.

So you can liken me in my tank to that proto suit (that typically get higher scores than my tank to begin with) who goes 35 - 2. What I'm getting at here, are tanks really the problem in this mode. Do they really unbalance the mode to the point of breaking it, when other players running suits can get the same scores, if not higher consistently?

And do people truly believe that removing them is going to magically fix all their problems? You are still going to get rolled by the full squads, who stick in tight groups and use logis to easily overcome you. Ambush will be exactly same, except you won't see a tank killing you, and you are going to spend all day trying to take out those pesky installs with your peashooter swarms or forgeguns, while they murder your bluedots effortlessly.

Removing them from OMS simply doesn't fix anything because you still won't address the real issues.

"Dumb" deploy

Poor OMS map choices and spawns within that map

No choice in what mode one wants to play

Horrid matchmaking (IE a no squad mode would do wonders for the ones that want to lone wolf it.)

Anything else not mentioned

But removing tanks simply doesn't fix a damn thing. It will still be a one sided stomp fest for those that complain about it.

SNIP

I agree with you that perhaps vehicles aren't the problem its THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT. DO YOU SEE THIS CCP THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT DONT SPAWN ME 20 METERS AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE DAMN ENEMY TEAM.

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13ear 229	Posted - 2014.08.29 09:18:00 - [61] - Quote First choice would be Ambush OMS w/o vehicles. Although, I wouldn't mind keeping ambush & ambush OMS as they are now so long we are able to choose between the two in the battle finder. One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes Winner of EU Squad Cup
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2683	Posted - 2014.08.29 14:31:00 - [62] - Quote You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0 Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1 Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
Jakkal Shoobah Direct Action Resources 2	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:09:00 - [63] - Quote B) No vehicles whatsoever. Although tanks can now be destroyed by a good gunner on an installation, dropships cannot be taken down so easily. Yeah you can forge/swarm a gorgon or viper, but ***** ADS . JUST NO ADS WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY GOD DAMN YOU CANT KILL THEM UNLESS THEY ARE COMPLETE DIP-*. AND MOST AREN'T THEY JUST FLY OVER AND AROUND DAMN INSTALLATIONS,SWARMS,FORGES, AND PLASMAS. TEAM EFFORT YOU SAY ? I SAY ** THE BLUEBERRIES THEY ARE TOO BUSY DYING. Jakkal "Jammal" Shoobah, The friendly/pissy Gallente Commando/Assault Assault Rifles til I get stomped to the ground
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4585	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:25:00 - [64] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0 Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1 I can shoot back at a combat rifle. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Tardthe GrumpyCat Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:31:00 - [65] - Quote Call of Duty 514 Call of Duty In Space Call of Duty: Space Edition Call of Duty 514: Space, The Final Frontier Call of Duty 514: Because Vehicles Are Too Hard Call of Duty 514: Because My Attention Span is 2 Seconds Long Call of Duty 514: We Didn't Need Tanks And Bombers To Win World War II Call of Duty 514: Because We Know What's Best For You And What's Best For The Game
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2052	Posted - 2014.08.29 18:47:00 - [66] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: +1 to the suggestion about keeping LAVs and normal Dropships. Those can get excellent DPS but still require teamwork. Murder taxi heavies. Your argument is invalid. Good point. Entry/exit animations and access-points would have solved all popping in and out of vehicles. Don't forget the mechanic is abusable by all sized dropsuits in all vehicles. So it only really invalidates the idea of any vehicles if you hate all vehicles. I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 2195	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:08:00 - [67] - Quote 13ear wrote: I wouldn't mind keeping ambush & ambush OMS as they are now so long we are able to choose between the two in the battle finder. ^ This Make Ambush (50 Clones, no vehicles) and Ambush OMS (80 Clones, with vehicles) two distinct choosable options in the battle finder. Skirmish Domination Ambush Ambush OMS The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
Chit Hoppened The Exemplars 353	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:09:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: A) Ambush without Vehicles and Ambush OMS with Vehicles - This is the current setup This with 80 Clone Ambush/120 Clone OMS. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden. Cannon Fever Representative
Tebu Gan Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1179	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:32:00 - [69] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0 Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1 Going to point this out because I think this is something people truly do fail to notice. As another guy mentioned, you can shoot back at the proto suit and not need to do anything special, like switch to an AV fit that can be limited against other suits. But the fact that you "stand a chance" (often times, you don't to begin with), causes people to overlook that and hate on the tank. As they generally can be much harder to engage. Going to share my recent experiences with tanks and OMS. Ran quite a few matches last night with old friends. Consistently came in the top spot while a LONG time buddy of mine did the same. When we got a regular 50 clone ambush, I went logi and let everyone else do the slaying. And man did we roll most everyone. What I'm saying here, if you aren't coordinated, you WON'T stand a chance anyways. In more than a few matches, the opposing team was lucky to get our count down by a 1/4. And that was simply due to the blueberries dying. When we got an OMS, since I'm typically a try hard when in a squad and these fella's know me and my tank VERY well, I pull out my 750K blaster tank. 750K because of the 2 small rails I run on it, one being a proto small and the other an advanced. /// Side note: How I love gunners, good ones that is. Just a little side note, when you gun, DON'T EXPECT THE TANK TO ACCOMMODATE YOU. Don't ask him to stop, or attack or whatever. Had a gunner do that before, and man is it annoying. You are there to support the tank, not carry him. /// Anyways, these guys know what's up and work around me. They wait for me to sound the cue to attack other tanks, give me heads up, and jump out to deal with something if needed. A well coordinated tank team is def something to be afraid of. So, long story short, my tank ruled the battlefield. So did my tank affect the outcome, sure did. But what I'm getting at, if my tank wasn't allowed in this mode to begin with, no doubt the outcome would have been the same. And it's not like I was getting crazy scores or anything. An average of around 10 kills, not including gunner kills. And AV was DEF heavy. Had i been a lesser tanker (and I had seen a few out there) I most certainly would have lost more then 2 from my matches. But I know AV, I know my tanks limitations, and I understand how to effectively use cover and still make an impact on the outcome. Not to mention, having 2 gunners shreds enemy tanks when we all fire at the same time(A maddie dropped in literally 3 seconds) What I'm saying is that I'm pretty damn good with a tank. So you can liken me in my tank to that proto suit (that typically get higher scores than my tank to begin with) who goes 35 - 2. What I'm getting at here, are tanks really the problem in this mode. Do they really unbalance the mode to the point of breaking it, when other players running suits can get the same scores, if not higher consistently? And do people truly believe that removing them is going to magically fix all their problems? You are still going to get rolled by the full squads, who stick in tight groups and use logis to easily overcome you. Ambush will be exactly same, except you won't see a tank killing you, and you are going to spend all day trying to take out those pesky installs with your peashooter swarms or forgeguns, while they murder your bluedots effortlessly. Removing them from OMS simply doesn't fix anything because you still won't address the real issues. "Dumb" deploy Poor OMS map choices and spawns within that map No choice in what mode one wants to play Horrid matchmaking (IE a no squad mode would do wonders for the ones that want to lone wolf it.) Anything else not mentioned But removing tanks simply doesn't fix a damn thing. It will still be a one sided stomp fest for those that complain about it. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
Jakkal Shoobah Direct Action Resources 3	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:26:00 - [70] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0 Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1 Going to point this out because I think this is something people truly do fail to notice. As another guy mentioned, you can shoot back at the proto suit and not need to do anything special, like switch to an AV fit that can be limited against other suits. But the fact that you "stand a chance" (often times, you don't to begin with), causes people to overlook that and hate on the tank. As they generally can be much harder to engage. Going to share my recent experiences with tanks and OMS. Ran quite a few matches last night with old friends. Consistently came in the top spot while a LONG time buddy of mine did the same. When we got a regular 50 clone ambush, I went logi and let everyone else do the slaying. And man did we roll most everyone. What I'm saying here, if you aren't coordinated, you WON'T stand a chance anyways. In more than a few matches, the opposing team was lucky to get our count down by a 1/4. And that was simply due to the blueberries dying. When we got an OMS, since I'm typically a try hard when in a squad and these fella's know me and my tank VERY well, I pull out my 750K blaster tank. 750K because of the 2 small rails I run on it, one being a proto small and the other an advanced. /// Side note: How I love gunners, good ones that is. Just a little side note, when you gun, DON'T EXPECT THE TANK TO ACCOMMODATE YOU. Don't ask him to stop, or attack or whatever. Had a gunner do that before, and man is it annoying. You are there to support the tank, not carry him. /// Anyways, these guys know what's up and work around me. They wait for me to sound the cue to attack other tanks, give me heads up, and jump out to deal with something if needed. A well coordinated tank team is def something to be afraid of. So, long story short, my tank ruled the battlefield. So did my tank affect the outcome, sure did. But what I'm getting at, if my tank wasn't allowed in this mode to begin with, no doubt the outcome would have been the same. And it's not like I was getting crazy scores or anything. An average of around 10 kills, not including gunner kills. And AV was DEF heavy. Had i been a lesser tanker (and I had seen a few out there) I most certainly would have lost more then 2 from my matches. But I know AV, I know my tanks limitations, and I understand how to effectively use cover and still make an impact on the outcome. Not to mention, having 2 gunners shreds enemy tanks when we all fire at the same time(A maddie dropped in literally 3 seconds) What I'm saying is that I'm pretty damn good with a tank. So you can liken me in my tank to that proto suit (that typically get higher scores than my tank to begin with) who goes 35 - 2. What I'm getting at here, are tanks really the problem in this mode. Do they really unbalance the mode to the point of breaking it, when other players running suits can get the same scores, if not higher consistently? And do people truly believe that removing them is going to magically fix all their problems? You are still going to get rolled by the full squads, who stick in tight groups and use logis to easily overcome you. Ambush will be exactly same, except you won't see a tank killing you, and you are going to spend all day trying to take out those pesky installs with your peashooter swarms or forgeguns, while they murder your bluedots effortlessly. Removing them from OMS simply doesn't fix anything because you still won't address the real issues. "Dumb" deploy Poor OMS map choices and spawns within that map No choice in what mode one wants to play Horrid matchmaking (IE a no squad mode would do wonders for the ones that want to lone wolf it.) Anything else not mentioned But removing tanks simply doesn't fix a damn thing. It will still be a one sided stomp fest for those that complain about it. I can agree with you on the fact that organized squads can definitely roll on ambush just as effectively as a tank, but I disagree with you opinion that removing vehicles will change nothing. On an OMS where there is at least a tiny distance between the spawns a seasoned player can in fact flank and not rush blindly to their death. In my experience, it's not the ok players that lose the matches. It is the fault of blueberries who go 1 and 12. Not to say i wasn't that guy at some point in time. I was. But thats besides the point. Even one clone can disrupt a squad, even for a moment which can turn the tide of the battle. I think vehicles in general are messed up when there is no large distance to cross to get an objective. Why? Well when smart deploy finally decides to spawn you somewhere else, there is either A a blaster tank hunting you down like a shark in the ocean, B a murder taxi with a heavy logi duo, or C a MOTHERFUCKING ADS. Without these hindrances, reasonably smart players can get their **** together and form a hardpoint. Not to say that the supersquad won't shut it down in 30 seconds, but it at least doesn't completely demoralize the newbies that don't know left from right. The only reason I continues to play dust after getting raped in ambush was so that i could learn how to counter stomping. Still working on that. I agree with you that perhaps vehicles aren't the problem its THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT. DO YOU SEE THIS CCP THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT DONT SPAWN ME 20 METERS AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE DAMN ENEMY TEAM. Jakkal "Jammal" Shoobah, The friendly/pissy Gallente Commando/Assault Assault Rifles til I get stomped to the ground

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4596	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:39:00 - [71] - Quote @ Tebu Gan 1. What you've described sounds like a pubstomp accelerant ... a means by which to make an unfair fight even less fair. Apart from ending bad matches faster, how are vehicle-assisted pubstomps a good thing? 2. The HAV and ADS are ~~poorly~~ balanced for use in the other playmodes where maps are big, AV has opportunity to set traps and coordinate strikes, and opposing vehicles can be brought in safely. Are you proposing we rebalance vehicles for use in Ambush, where none of these factors apply? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3233	Posted - 2014.08.30 01:54:00 - [72] - Quote Could we get more clones? Member of a Dead Alliance and Dead Corp Coming through, still better than you FOTM corp hopping whores
ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 794	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:17:00 - [73] - Quote Removing vehicles all together is winning. This makes me sad. Although the Shield ADS is still an extreme pain in the ass to solo, Vehicle hunting is only really fun in Ambush. That is it at it's purest. No redline, no 'more important things to do' like hack objectives. Plenty of WP and satisfaction even if you go negative k/d wise, or your side looses. I look at this from an ISK efficiency stand point. I could loose 6 of my most commonly used AV fit for every 1 Maddy or Gunny I take down. Without vehicles in Ambush, these videos would not exist. Ambush Tank Hunting Tank Hunting pre 1.7 A game in the life of a pure AVer I mean really, what more do we need to take out vehicles in OMS? I killed a Rail Gunlogi with a damn blaster installation last night 0.0 YouTube
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 877	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:24:00 - [74] - Quote Plain ambush with NO vehicles but for the love of all that is good tighten up the redlines a little bit and make smart deploy always spawn you X distance from the largest group of enemies.
ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 794	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:34:00 - [75] - Quote Jakkal Shoobah wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: You do realize if they get removed you will have more people shooting at you with proto combat rifles Complains about blaster tank getting 30-0 Dosn't complain about combat rifle going 70-1 Going to point this out because I think this is something people truly do fail to notice. As another guy mentioned, you can shoot back at the proto suit and not need to do anything special, like switch to an AV fit that can be limited against other suits. But the fact that you "stand a chance" (often times, you don't to begin with), causes people to overlook that and hate on the tank. As they generally can be much harder to engage. Going to share my recent experiences with tanks and OMS. Ran quite a few matches last night with old friends. Consistently came in the top spot while a LONG time buddy of mine did the same. When we got a regular 50 clone ambush, I went logi and let everyone else do the slaying. And man did we roll most everyone. What I'm saying here, if you aren't coordinated, you WON'T stand a chance anyways. In more than a few matches, the opposing team was lucky to get our count down by a 1/4. And that was simply due to the blueberries dying. When we got an OMS, since I'm typically a try hard when in a squad and these fella's know me and my tank VERY well, I pull out my 750K blaster tank. 750K because of the 2 small rails I run on it, one being a proto small and the other an advanced. /// Side note: How I love gunners, good ones that is. Just a little side note, when you gun, DON'T EXPECT THE TANK TO ACCOMMODATE YOU. Don't ask him to stop, or attack or whatever. Had a gunner do that before, and man is it annoying. You are there to support the tank, not carry him. /// Anyways, these guys know what's up and work around me. They wait for me to sound the cue to attack other tanks, give me heads up, and jump out to deal with something if needed. A well coordinated tank team is def something to be afraid of. So, long story short, my tank ruled the battlefield. So did my tank affect the outcome, sure did. But what I'm getting at, if my tank wasn't allowed in this mode to begin with, no doubt the outcome would have been the same. And it's not like I was getting crazy scores or anything. An average of around 10 kills, not including gunner kills. And AV was DEF heavy. Had i been a lesser tanker (and I had seen a few out there) I most certainly would have lost more then 2 from my matches. But I know AV, I know my tanks limitations, and I understand how to effectively use cover and still make an impact on the outcome. Not to mention, having 2 gunners shreds enemy tanks when we all fire at the same time(A maddie dropped in literally 3 seconds) What I'm saying is that I'm pretty damn good with a tank. So you can liken me in my tank to that proto suit (that typically get higher scores than my tank to begin with) who goes 35 - 2. What I'm getting at here, are tanks really the problem in this mode. Do they really unbalance the mode to the point of breaking it, when other players running suits can get the same scores, if not higher consistently? And do people truly believe that removing them is going to magically fix all their problems? You are still going to get rolled by the full squads, who stick in tight groups and use logis to easily overcome you. Ambush will be exactly same, except you won't see a tank killing you, and you are going to spend all day trying to take out those pesky installs with your peashooter swarms or forgeguns, while they murder your bluedots effortlessly. Removing them from OMS simply doesn't fix anything because you still won't address the real issues. "Dumb" deploy Poor OMS map choices and spawns within that map No choice in what mode one wants to play Horrid matchmaking (IE a no squad mode would do wonders for the ones that want to lone wolf it.) Anything else not mentioned But removing tanks simply doesn't fix a damn thing. It will still be a one sided stomp fest for those that complain about it. SNIP I agree with you that perhaps vehicles aren't the problem its THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT. DO YOU SEE THIS CCP THE DAMN DEPLOYMENT DONT SPAWN ME 20 METERS AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE DAMN ENEMY TEAM. What you don't realize is the spawns and spawn changes are predictable. If I spawn at x, enemy will be at either y or z, their next spawn will be at z for y amount of time, then after that back to x. If you find yourself spawn trapped, your only option is to hold spawn until the timer for that spawn point runs out and hope there are clones left to spawn with. If you do manage to get out when you're up against these groups that do nothing but proto bush stomp day in and day out, give them a little excitement by throwing a link in a flanking position to the place you just spawned. I guarantee they are on their way to that spot to play the Dust 514 version of Duck Hunt. YouTube
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 872	Posted - 2014.08.30 06:28:00 - [76] - Quote What Ambush is in general? It seems to me that this is not a full game mode is shooting gallery, obstacle course, a driving job for infantry. If I take my rifle and come in shooting gallery and see where the tank - I would strongly surprised. All complaints and cries coming from those who like to ride on the head with impunity. Go FW, Pilot! Go Skirmish, Tanker! Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 711	Posted - 2014.08.30 13:11:00 - [77] - Quote D - No Vehcles at all only reason is that while i don't mind vehicles in OMS i'd rather have a mode without vehicles at all and seeing as splitting the Que isn't an option i'd rather leave Skirm and Doms if i want to jump in a vehicle and just have 50 ticket Ambush to 'relax' in Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4611	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:17:00 - [78] - Quote If the V/AV changes outlined in the Delta Narrative are implemented, I propose we hold off on yanking vehicles from OMS until we've had opportunity to reevaluate. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Dergle Kiith Sobani 31	Posted - 2014.08.30 21:05:00 - [79] - Quote voidfaction wrote: H) All game modes without Vehicles - No vehicles at all If this is how you feel, go back to CoD! DUST is not a democracy! Ain't nobody want to hear your problems, Everyone got problems.
Shooter Somewhere Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 56	Posted - 2014.08.30 21:06:00 - [80] - Quote Dergle wrote: voidfaction wrote: H) All game modes without Vehicles - No vehicles at all If this is how you feel, go back to CoD! OMG DERGIL ITS YOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!! I just peaked on the forums real quick. its panda btw will be off for a couple months if you and boss survive that long tell him I said hi and creed if he pops back up HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo

ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 803	Posted - 2014.08.30 22:02:00 - [81] - Quote So question. We have the 4th special event queue. To my knowledge it's only been used once? For the Templar event? Maybe there was a second for killing devs or something like that. So that queue is just going to waist, and I doubt CCP is going to hold another event in dust, but I hope it was made to be customizable? So can we use that queue for a Special "vehicleless" ambush event that runs until legion or something? YouTube
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3388	Posted - 2014.08.31 01:18:00 - [82] - Quote My experience Ambush: Spawns in Logi fit/Shotgun Fit/Slayer Fit/Scanner Fit. . . . . . OMS: Spawns AV fit They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2697	Posted - 2014.08.31 01:20:00 - [83] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: My experience Ambush: Spawns in Logi fit/Shotgun Fit/Slayer Fit/Scanner Fit. . . . . . OMS: Spawns AV fit Iv'e seen swarm launchers in normal ambush Infantry that are seperated from the mothership turn blue on your radar and derp it out. I lost hope in humanity when i saw that Roles mastered- HAV/ADS/LDS/Forum Lord/Working on Assault Pinned down? Let my tank scatter enemies for you v(^_^)v
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 443	Posted - 2014.08.31 06:34:00 - [84] - Quote there are only 3 modes never limit peoples options. Vehicle specialists should be able to do their thing in every game mode. & justice for all
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1016	Posted - 2014.08.31 09:48:00 - [85] - Quote Vehicles in ambush isn't the problem now that the amount is limited. The problem is that the predictable spawn spots make it too easy for vehicles to spawncamp without AVers to organize. Restrictions will just make vehicle user go to other modes and ruin those, I can't be he only one in skirmishes full of vehicles doing useless stuff and making it boring to play.
Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH 493	Posted - 2014.08.31 15:20:00 - [86] - Quote I'm happy with the current state of Ambush, and the tweak to turret HP has made OMS much more dangerous for careless tankers. My only ask would be to separate the two at the battle selection screen and then tailor the maps to each of the game modes. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 716	Posted - 2014.08.31 23:09:00 - [87] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: there are only 3 modes never limit peoples options. Vehicle specialists should be able to do their thing in every game mode. but by saying that you're limiting Infantry who don't want a game mode with vehicles. there are dom and skirmish for vehicles. i have adequate AV and can give tanks a hard time but there are just times when i don't want a python spamming missiles at me all match. at least not until they can be taken down. something really needs to be done about ADS, th eonly time i've taken one down in past few weeks is when its been called in and taken it down befroe it was dropped by RDV other than that we've had 3 swarmers goign after one and they take a hit, hit hardener and fly off before the next rounds land. even if you do get shots off the missiles are so slow the ADS just outruns them anyway Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone 101	Posted - 2014.09.01 01:09:00 - [88] - Quote Personally i think in ambush there should be this setup Ambush- No vehicles Ambush OMS- LAV's only Supporter of Legion Supporter of Valkyrie Supporter/Fan of Eve
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1046	Posted - 2014.09.01 03:41:00 - [89] - Quote Ambush OMS-no vehicles,the good,the bad,and the ugly: Good: -Turrets were buffed to deal with vehicles and aid infantry. -No more HMG+LAV insta gib combo. -No more rail tanks sniping from half a field away. -No more in-escapable ADS 1 shotting whole groups. -No more easymode roadkills using LAVs -More clones than regular ambush. Bad: -Installations will have 0 counter except a squad of AVers. -Installations will be camped because there will be a power vacuum that vehicles leave. -Installations will still have infinite ammo. -Installations are all placed where they can easily shoot spawn points. -Supply depots will allow a nearly dead scout to swap to a 1000 armor heavy that's invincible for a short while,then swap right back.. -Installations will be heavily abused. Ugly: -As long as installations stay,they will require a 1-1 counter which vehicles provide. Simple fix(es): -keep ambush -increase clone count to mimic OMS -disable warbarge OBs Deathmatch mode created where skill,not cheap shenanigans,determines the winning team. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
wripple WarRavens Capital Punishment. 202	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:11:00 - [90] - Quote Regular ambush is currently just too short to enjoy, while OMS is always just a competition to see who can call their triple rep Madrugers before a blue caps the quota with an LAV. I don't even touch the two modes anymore, one is boring while the other is frustrating if you don't want to worry about getting stomped by enemy vehicles. Removing regular bush and eliminating the vehicles that currently abuse it would finally make it a game mode I would touch again with my 10 foot pole. If we need an excuse to fit the EVE lore, just say your Bolas cannot enter orbit because it's in high security space.



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