DUST Search - changes to the supply depots

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Brush Master wrote:

Hobo on Fire wrote:

Brush Master wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

We have increased supply radius on our backlog

lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles.

As much as I enjoy killing vehicles, I agree with this. There are tons of socket variations where a supply depot is up on top of a building or down in a pit that renders them completely inaccessible to ground vehicles.

A small armor repair ability for dropsuits is also something I'm in favor of.

please note that supply depots use to repair dropsuits back in the day. I believe it was removed due to players grouping around depots, you could spam grenades and enjoy higher reps.

1-2HP a second is not going to be a noticeable factor in combat when most rep-suits now have around 30 HP/s. It is however extremely useful in terms of armor maintenance, particularly for shielded suits, and adds additional tactical significance to the holding and position of supply depots.

EDIT: While I may be wrong about this, I've been in the Beta since May 2012 and do not recall Supply Depots ever having innate armor repairs to dropsuits. In fact when I first discovered that they repaired vehicles, I asked "Why not dropsuits?"

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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2014.08.26 01:03:00 - [1] - Quote 1 give them an ehp buff 2 extend the field of resupply outward and downward to allow re supplying vehicles when supply depot is on buildings or in bunkers. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1599	Posted - 2014.08.26 01:59:00 - [2] - Quote So much number 2. Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 587	Posted - 2014.08.26 07:31:00 - [3] - Quote +1 to number 2.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2315	Posted - 2014.08.26 10:02:00 - [4] - Quote 1: no. It needs to be a removable strategic asset. 2: absolutely agreed. The sooner you are fully reloaded the sooner you bring those warpoint printers back into kill range for me to terminate. You should not have to recall then re-deploy to rearm.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:32:00 - [5] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: 1 give them an ehp buff 2 extend the field of resupply outward and downward to allow re supplying vehicles when supply depot is on buildings or in bunkers. no. doing this will leave tanks and dropships able to stay in the field indefinitely instead of going back to base to resupply [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:32:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: 1: no. It needs to be a removable strategic asset. 2: absolutely agreed. The sooner you are fully reloaded the sooner you bring those warpoint printers back into kill range for me to terminate. You should not have to recall then re-deploy to rearm. they dont have to do that, they are just too lazy to bug out back to base to get resupplied [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 94	Posted - 2014.08.26 12:39:00 - [7] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: 1: no. It needs to be a removable strategic asset. 2: absolutely agreed. The sooner you are fully reloaded the sooner you bring those warpoint printers back into kill range for me to terminate. You should not have to recall then re-deploy to rearm. number 2 is something I felt is really needed no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5714	Posted - 2014.08.26 13:20:00 - [8] - Quote We have increased supply radius on our backlog "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3996	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:10:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog When did that happend? Cause usually i cant get ammo for my LAV when a supply depot is like on top of a building. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2967	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:18:00 - [10] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog When did that happend? Cause usually i cant get ammo for my LAV when a supply depot is like on top of a building. Backlog as in, "We want to do it but haven't gotten around to it yet"

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2182	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:24:00 - [11] - Quote Can we also add a small armor repair amount to people in the restock vicinity for drop suits? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:42:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Can we also add a small armor repair amount to people in the restock vicinity for drop suits? Absolutely not. That would make the Chocolate Factory map unplayable if a team gets stuck in that damn SupDep room -_- RESPEC PLEASE After Delta CEO of GODS AMONG MEN Clone Wars forever #Starwars: Battlefront 3 Avid Bboy
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1287	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:58:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles. Rattati have you tried to fly a dropship, do you know you basically have to touch a supply depot and be almost on the ground before it restocks? There is zero vertical supply to a depot. Checkout some of the structures where the depot is inside a wall or better yet, one that is down a slop next to a giant structure, next to impossible to land close enough to a depot, I have been flying since the begging of this game and I have a hard time, I couldn't imagine a less experienced player being able to pilot for restock. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2969	Posted - 2014.08.26 16:33:00 - [14] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Can we also add a small armor repair amount to people in the restock vicinity for drop suits? Absolutely not. That would make the Chocolate Factory map unplayable if a team gets stuck in that damn SupDep room -_- You think adding 1-2HP a second is going to matter when they're standing on top of nanohives that rep them 20-40x faster? I think a small rep would go a long way in helping shield units deal with some of the problems they suffer with their armor.
Hobo on Fire Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 317	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:17:00 - [15] - Quote Brush Master wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles. As much as I enjoy killing vehicles, I agree with this. There are tons of socket variations where a supply depot is up on top of a building or down in a pit that renders them completely inaccessible to ground vehicles. A *small* armor repair ability for dropsuits is also something I'm in favor of. Free Sigberct! Again!
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 723	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:35:00 - [16] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: they dont have to do that, they are just too lazy to bug out back to base to get resupplied Really? Because there are some maps where the redline spawns have inaccessible depots, or no depot at all (Border Gulch anyone?) Alt of Halla Murr.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1288	Posted - 2014.08.26 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote Hobo on Fire wrote: Brush Master wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles. As much as I enjoy killing vehicles, I agree with this. There are tons of socket variations where a supply depot is up on top of a building or down in a pit that renders them completely inaccessible to ground vehicles. A *small* armor repair ability for dropsuits is also something I'm in favor of. please note that supply depots use to repair dropsuits back in the day. I believe it was removed due to players grouping around depots, you could spam grenades and enjoy higher reps. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2972	Posted - 2014.08.26 18:42:00 - [18] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Hobo on Fire wrote: Brush Master wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles. As much as I enjoy killing vehicles, I agree with this. There are tons of socket variations where a supply depot is up on top of a building or down in a pit that renders them completely inaccessible to ground vehicles. A *small* armor repair ability for dropsuits is also something I'm in favor of. please note that supply depots use to repair dropsuits back in the day. I believe it was removed due to players grouping around depots, you could spam grenades and enjoy higher reps. 1-2HP a second is not going to be a noticeable factor in combat when most rep-suits now have around 30 HP/s. It is however extremely useful in terms of armor maintenance, particularly for shielded suits, and adds additional tactical significance to the holding and position of supply depots.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1288	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Brush Master wrote: Hobo on Fire wrote: Brush Master wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog lets get this moved up. I said it before they deployed the limited ammo on vehicles, they needed a better way to restock them then current depots. With no new features, this means we have to make due with current depots and their horrid placements in regards to vehicles. As much as I enjoy killing vehicles, I agree with this. There are tons of socket variations where a supply depot is up on top of a building or down in a pit that renders them completely inaccessible to ground vehicles. A *small* armor repair ability for dropsuits is also something I'm in favor of. please note that supply depots use to repair dropsuits back in the day. I believe it was removed due to players grouping around depots, you could spam grenades and enjoy higher reps. 1-2HP a second is not going to be a noticeable factor in combat when most rep-suits now have around 30 HP/s. It is however extremely useful in terms of armor maintenance, particularly for shielded suits, and adds additional tactical significance to the holding and position of supply depots. EDIT: While I may be wrong about this, I've been in the Beta since May 2012 and do not recall Supply Depots ever having innate armor repairs to dropsuits. In fact when I first discovered that they repaired vehicles, I asked "Why not dropsuits?" Not sure how you missed it but I remember it in closed beta and I only joined around June. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1598	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:39:00 - [20] - Quote We're aware of this thread and speaking personally I think an increase in the supply depots sphere of influence is long needed. Perhaps a way can be found to increase it for vehicles only so as to not make them too much of a hotspot for ammo camping. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2972	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:58:00 - [21] - Quote Well that may be the case that I missed it, but HP and armor rep rates are significantly higher than they used to be, and as such, as I've stated before, I don't think a point or two of repping is going to make that much of a direct combat difference. Hell, the Gallente get their built in 1-2 HP/s rep and the benefit is marginal at best, and they have it all the time, not just near a static location.
Zindorak 1.U.P 681	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:21:00 - [22] - Quote +1 Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1016	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:34:00 - [23] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: 1 give them an ehp buff 2 extend the field of resupply outward and downward to allow re supplying vehicles when supply depot is on buildings or in bunkers. 3.Put them where enemies can't destroy them easily ( referring to those in the redline) -Out of turret range -Behind sufficient cover so loltanks can't destroy them from halfway across the map. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1236	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:55:00 - [24] - Quote 2) gets a +1. 1) not needed. Killing supply depots even with XT launcher is not trivial. Well, at least not something you do while passing by. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1290	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:30:00 - [25] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: We're aware of this thread and speaking personally I think an increase in the supply depots sphere of influence is long needed. Perhaps a way can be found to increase it for vehicles only so as to not make them too much of a hotspot for ammo camping. I would lean towards increasing it first if making it vehicle only increases the workload else I would be fine with that. Since there is already armor repair for vehicles only, maybe this is trivial, else go for the simplest route to get it done. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 100	Posted - 2014.08.27 03:30:00 - [26] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: We're aware of this thread and speaking personally I think an increase in the supply depots sphere of influence is long needed. Perhaps a way can be found to increase it for vehicles only so as to not make them too much of a hotspot for ammo camping. I would lean towards increasing it first if making it vehicle only increases the workload else I would be fine with that. Since there is already armor repair for vehicles only, maybe this is trivial, else go for the simplest route to get it done. I guess I thought It was implied that i only feel the range extension is needed for vehicles AND RATATTI LACK OF VERTICAL RESUPPLY IS A BIG ISSUE. The supple depot should have a 10 _ 15 sphere of vehicular resupply. SPHERE meaning all direction up and down included no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 763	Posted - 2014.08.27 04:08:00 - [27] - Quote how about we finally get the ability to drop them in on top of these suggestions, arnt we supposed to be able to drop thm in like orbitals?
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 215	Posted - 2014.08.27 07:16:00 - [28] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: they dont have to do that, they are just too lazy to bug out back to base to get resupplied Really? Because there are some maps where the redline spawns have inaccessible depots, or no depot at all (Border Gulch anyone?) you can access delta and bravo supply depots if you know how for bravo, just drive your vehicle off the ledge from charlie side, and for delta, just hug the wall with your vehicle Burst HMG is OP use it. I do
Hobo on Fire Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 319	Posted - 2014.08.27 09:15:00 - [29] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: they dont have to do that, they are just too lazy to bug out back to base to get resupplied Really? Because there are some maps where the redline spawns have inaccessible depots, or no depot at all (Border Gulch anyone?) you can access delta and bravo supply depots if you know how for bravo, just drive your vehicle off the ledge from charlie side, and for delta, just hug the wall with your vehicle The problem ones are the ones like at charlie and echo (up high) and the ones situated in powerplants, like the CRU on that map between echo and bravo. Also, "driving your vehicle off a ledge" should not be a requirement to top off your ammo. Free Sigberct! Again!
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 726	Posted - 2014.08.27 11:19:00 - [30] - Quote Hobo on Fire wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: they dont have to do that, they are just too lazy to bug out back to base to get resupplied Really? Because there are some maps where the redline spawns have inaccessible depots, or no depot at all (Border Gulch anyone?) you can access delta and bravo supply depots if you know how for bravo, just drive your vehicle off the ledge from charlie side, and for delta, just hug the wall with your vehicle The problem ones are the ones like at charlie and echo (up high) and the ones situated in powerplants, like the CRU on that map between echo and bravo. Also, "driving your vehicle off a ledge" should not be a requirement to top off your ammo. Indeed. Its even more of an issue for the pilots that start Echo side side, where there is no base Supply Depot, unlike Charlie side where they have a decently protected Depot. Quite simply, some maps have stupidly placed and stupidly unbalanced Depot placement. Alt of Halla Murr.

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3918	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:58:00 - [31] - Quote Ha! Are you suggesting that CCP may not have taken care to make each side of a map equivalent and not give any sort of tactical advantage to the team randomly chosen to get that side? Preposterous! Can also confirm that depots used to repair armor. Fairly certain it was still there after beta "ended". (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2990	Posted - 2014.08.27 15:26:00 - [32] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Ha! Are you suggesting that CCP may not have taken care to make each side of a map equivalent and not give any sort of tactical advantage to the team randomly chosen to get that side? Preposterous! Can also confirm that depots used to repair armor. Fairly certain it was still there after beta "ended". It's possible I missed it since I always had an armor repairer on all of my suits, and the amount it repped was not a noticeable enough difference from the reps I already had equipped.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:29:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have increased supply radius on our backlog I'd say it should repair dropsuit armor but the Gallente research facility is already crazy enough as it is lol... *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2014.08.27 22:30:00 - [34] - Quote Bump ratatti the issues were no solved in ur silent fix no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil


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