Because it's heat build up per second, not per shot. Common sense dictates that if you can fire more shots per second, the heat build is the same.

You should both know this already. If the heat build up was per shot, the modded or turbo controller would no longer have an advantage.

show me one post anybody has made protecting modded controllers

The **** is your problem? I don't use a modded controller, and don't know anyone who does. I just assume that if you accuse someone of using a modded controller you suck.

anyway, I didn't say it would hurt to "remove the controllers from the game", I just want to know how the **** you would do that.

I don't have to! Show me anywhere on this post, or anywhere else where people have said "nerf the ScR", and it wasn't shortly followed by "it's the modded controllers"?

For the last time! I am not in ANY way advocating the nerf of ANY weapon system! I want the root of the problem so CCP can stop nerfing weapons, and focus on the real problems in the game! Like hit detection!

You sir, came here with the intention of disproving any argument I had because you thought I was after the ScR!

Oh I know! These guys are just spending a whole lot of time protecting the modded controllers.... and not the ScR? Hmmmm? Wierd?! I wonder why?

Recoil per shot, heat build up per shot. Would remove the advantage that turbo/modded controllers have.

Sure you can fire faster but the weapon will heat up or climb a lot faster. Common Pat, this is a easy concept that has been around for along time.

Also did you get banned again?

if you dont want to point out where somebody is protecting modded controllers dont say stupid **** like this

However, the obvious modded controller users, freight-train you in what looks like three to four shots!! WTF!!! No taking cover! no returning fire! Just instant death! Then all they say is "oh it's proto" or "get gud"?!?! Naw bro you cheating! That thing should've overheated three times already if you killed me, my squadmate, and the blueberry hacking?!

Just look up this post, and look at all the guys who swears no one is using modded controllers! They did not say anything about the ScR in it's defense, but instead were more concerned with whether CCP could actually remove the ability to use the modded controllers! YOU in particular, just spent time trying to say it couldn't be done, and I should just "STOP TALKING"!

Stop trying to blame your own lack of ability on things that aren't actually true, it makes you look stupid.
You ever tried playing with KB/M? You should try it, you might notice that there's actually no difference in the speed at which you can strafe.
And don't even get me started on modded controllers, the amount of times I've been accused of using one just goes to show that most of you guys don't have a clue and will accuse anyone that kills you consistently.

point out where is said modded controllers could not be removed and that i want to keep them

And at what point did you defend the ScR? You just want us to be quiet lol!

numptys standing still hacking are a scrambler users wet dream, in noway does it mean hes a cheater. methinks youve been beasted one too many times and assume cheater coz you died

give it up m8 you try to make it sound like every game you go into is full of scram users with turbo pads, which is utter bs.

and for the record the tac gat nerfed for the same reason as the scram pistol

im fully aware of the whole 2 or three extra shots you can get from you tube vids of them not in combat, yet ive never seen any in actual combat because its just not worth it.

and if you fix scrams because of turbo pads you would have to fix every other rifle except the normal rail, yet i never see fix assault rifle or combat rifle threads

Thats how it works. Its heat per second. Meaning if you can squeeze out more rounds before that second is over. then ya less heat per round. also on the glitch where they shoot you while dead. I have seen more then just the scrambler do it. so it might be linked to the controllers.

@bradric

like you quote me saying, i never see turbo scrams in combat so i dont see things i never see as a problem. i also say if you fix the the scram because of turbo pads you would have to fix assault and combat rifles also. i dont see the point your trying to make

I didn't say fix the ScR! I said make the modded controllers null and void! That would then make all weapons normal regardless! Leave the weapons alone! They aren't the problem! The modded controllers are! The buff to the AR in hotfix bravo brought the GK-13 back to life so don't be surprised if it hits with ridiculous efficiency soon too! That again would be the modded controllers! I use the AR variants, and can not kill a guy with it immediately. So when one hits your proto suit and ista-kills you don't blame the weapon! It's not capable of that I assure you, and it's a shield weapon so heavily armored characters shouldn't go down so easily.... much like the ScR!

Stop trying to blame your own lack of ability on things that aren't actually true, it makes you look stupid.
You ever tried playing with KB/M? You should try it, you might notice that there's actually no difference in the speed at which you can strafe.
And don't even get me started on modded controllers, the amount of times I've been accused of using one just goes to show that most of you guys don't have a clue and will accuse anyone that kills you consistently.

Ahhh no!! there is a small benefit a M/KB offers. and thats being able to run forward at full speed and sidestepping by tapping 'A' and 'D' everything else is down to player skill with their controller just as you say
not only that but using a M/KB will not make you a better player if you're a thourough bred console gamer (liek myself) who can't use M/KB. although on th erare occassion i get called onto my sniper alt i'll use my laser mouse to snipe with (and perhaps laser rifle) simply because of slightly finer movement over the DS3 but really guys just accept that sometimes the other players are better than you lol

That's the advantages modded controllers and kb/m give. Aim assist does nothing to balance this out either. Not even close! If there was no advantage players wouldn't use it. It's really very simple.

Slightly lol! Nice choice of words, but no one here has one time said they are worried about players playing the game, as it is, better did they? They were referring to players who use outside mechanics to "get gud" lol! Grab a normal controller and kill me, and I won't say a word on the forums about it. people don't come to the forums beacause of things that work fine, and demand CCP change things that work?!

Don't any of you want to be truly good? I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that when I kill a guy it was completely legit! No "small benefit a M/KB offers" has had a hand in me killing anyone! No "sidestepping by tapping A and D"?! Nope! All raw skill here! No modded controllers?! No extra fast fire rates here unless I change to a BK-42 from a Gek-38! I'm a real thoroughbred console gamer! I just thought it was cool when I started dust to be able to plug up a keyboard and type, but definitely couldn't play with it lol! Not taking anything from guys who do, don't get me wrong, but if it wasn't some type of advantage to it would you play with M/KB? If the controller prove to be faster with movement and strafe speed would you still play with the M/KB?

you skip over the part where i said i use DS3? and even though i have access to a modded controller it's no use to me because i'm a logi through n through since i startd this game over 2yrs ago so having a modded controller doesn't work with my repper and its a proper ball ache turning it on/off and on my logi suits i use the ever faithful (and OP) Rail Rifle because a standard RR still outperforms my Boundless CR even with modded controller

Also worth noting the reason i'm a logi is cos i'm generally pretty bad at FPS games, again due to poor dexterity in my hand when the cold weather comes in.

but as the op has mentioned. the only reason a lot of folk use certain weapons is because they're OP and the FOTM and they're the ones crying when the nerf bat comes along. look at all the MD/Flaylock spam, laser spam, TAC rifle spam over the months and years. people find trends and abuse the 'easy mode' for easy kills, but thats generally broken mechanics and not outside modifications. you can't force a 1000rpm gun to fire at 1100rmp via a modded controller. a ScR will overheat faster using one because of the speed you fire. but there are certain weapons out there that are over used simply because they're OP. on my alt i have a militia rail rifle (on the caldari frontline suit). zero skills in any weaponry at the moment yet the other day i had a proto heavy run for cover when i was shooting at him from about 60m. there is clearly something wrong there. thats not via a modded controller, thats via some broken a*s mechanics

I said this waaaaaaaaay back when the tac AR was fotm and people were up in arms about turbo controllers, you can hit that button damn fast if you try and most people who tend towards the semi auto high damage weapons can do that

Granted the scrambler needs a bit of tweaking such as heat being based on shots fired and not seconds fired but turbo controllers arent as large of a problem as they might seem

No you don't, no one can do this intentionally, moron. If people could do this on purpose all the time I'd purposely wait to die so I could kill people unsuspectingly. Go back to you cave, troll.