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fear blood moon
Wrath Of Sinners
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:57:00 -
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I have started playing this the last week here and I really enjoy the game, its just I am afraid to play ambush and sometimes i get rage when I play other variations of the game aswell... Reason being for all this ^^^ is that I am getting SPAWN KILLED... why would i run a proto suit if I am going to die the second i try to load the map..
the issue: people sit on the spawn location with heavy suits and heavy guns or invis scout + shotgun and you stand no chance spawning in.. NOT FUN NOT FUN NOT FUN NOT FUNNNNNNNN
I want to atleast stand a chance when I play the game, and if I die, so be it... just not .0005 seconds after i hit the spawn button..
my solution: If an enemy is at a MCU within a certain distance, it will AUTOMATICALLY START TO HACK IT (very slowly) and it will give a warning to the players spawning in that it is being hacked.
also for ambush----
BAN THE USE OF SPAWN LINKS IN AMBUSH! <--- why? ----> because... when a spawn uplink is placed in ambush the smart deploy becomes a STUPID DEPLOY and it spawns you at the spawn uplink every time... now if you combine that with the fact that everyone in ambush spawn camps... you have a reason that the game isn't any more fun.. and that is.... noob 1 drops spawn uplink, noob 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 all on the other team find the uplink and dont destroy it and sit around it.... then your whole team is auto death on spawn... and the game is over..
anyhow yea... other than that I like the game..
P.S. rail rifles + head glitch = stupid |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2014.08.08 23:01:00 -
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First and foremost, Welcome to DUST!
That being said, couple tips:
1. You just started. Don't set your sights or SP on aquiring proto gear quite yet, you've a long ways to go still. In the skills section of your main mercenary quarters is a section titled "Dropsuit Upgrades". A number of the skills there will grant you passive increases to your base stats. MAX these first! It'll increase the stats of every fit you use from your starters to your future protos and what makes the basic stuff giable against protos and the proto stuff the beast it can be. Proto investment without Core Skill investment will get you spanked in proto by basic ez.
2. The MCU you're talking about is a CRU, the hackable spawn points on a map. Before you spawn on one, especially as the battle ebbs and flows into the area it is located, zoom in as close as you can with the overhead spawn cam and look to see if people are fighting around it. You may not see the people but you can usually see the tracers from their weapons. Watch the killfeed (upper right corner) also, if you see a CRU with a lot of fighting around it and the killfeed is consistently showing your teammates being killed it's probably being camped. Find somewhere else to spawn.
3. Smart Deploy, unfortunately, isn't. It will always spawn you closest to wherever most everyone else is at. Whether they're being slaughtered there or not. Uplinks can make it worse, yes, since will just camp the link and the Smart Deploy will spawn everyone else there too, but uplinks are the only way to break out from a Smart Deploy camp because they give people somewhere else to spawn. The trick is the uplinks need to be placed smart and too often that doesn't happen. Get your own links and maybe you'll be the one to save your team. Or get them all killed.
4. At the top of this feedback section is a Dev Sticky Thread about New Player advice, it's tips and advice from experienced players for new players. Go there, read a ton of good advice, last I looked it's like 5 pages long.
5. DUST University and Immortal Guides are both corps focused on helping new players learn the basics of DUST. Check them out.
Its not easy to be successful here in DUST, but if it was easy everybody would be doing it.
Good Luck, Have Fun and Be Profitable! o7
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
275
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Posted - 2014.08.09 00:09:00 -
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Heres an idea dont spawn at the Spawn trapped CRU or dont spawn at all or spawn with free fits
Pokemon master
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3753
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Posted - 2014.08.09 01:42:00 -
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Can't speak for other playmodes, but for Ambush ...
It should be impossible to "Smart Spawn" within 50 meters of any hostile. Seriously. The maps are sufficiently large. Put me somewhere other than right in front of f*cking red-dots.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Ops Fox
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2014.08.09 02:20:00 -
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Why not make it so Smart deploy simply does not send players to Uplinks? That way the only way to spawn at a Uplink is if you manually pick it, rather than the Smart Deploy sometimes defaulting there.
As for when smart deploy randomly drops you in front of enemy squads, That is pretty normal in all games with a random spawn feature.
(I will admit it can be used against them though; one time I kept purposely spawning in a camped spawn because it was a small room and I could get off at least one grenade before I was killed. I think I ended up with 5 kills and 3 deaths doing that so I was happy with spawn camping at the time.) |
Vitoka79 from SVK
Until thee End RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:39:00 -
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Vet: You are a new player so i recomend you to spawn way back in the base or in the MCC.Stay there till the veterans remove all the threats on the field that could harm you.We need clones so don't waste them,please. New guy: But there is no base or MCC in Ambush... Vet: If you play Ambush than you deserve smart deploy
DUST 514 open market?Rest in pieces...
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
304
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:15:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:First and foremost, Welcome to DUST!
That being said, couple tips:
1. You just started. Don't set your sights or SP on aquiring proto gear quite yet, you've a long ways to go still. In the skills section of your main mercenary quarters is a section titled "Dropsuit Upgrades". A number of the skills there will grant you passive increases to your base stats. MAX these first! It'll increase the stats of every fit you use from your starters to your future protos and what makes the basic stuff giable against protos and the proto stuff the beast it can be. Proto investment without Core Skill investment will get you spanked in proto by basic ez.
2. The MCU you're talking about is a CRU, the hackable spawn points on a map. Before you spawn on one, especially as the battle ebbs and flows into the area it is located, zoom in as close as you can with the overhead spawn cam and look to see if people are fighting around it. You may not see the people but you can usually see the tracers from their weapons. Watch the killfeed (upper right corner) also, if you see a CRU with a lot of fighting around it and the killfeed is consistently showing your teammates being killed it's probably being camped. Find somewhere else to spawn.
3. Smart Deploy, unfortunately, isn't. It will always spawn you closest to wherever most everyone else is at. Whether they're being slaughtered there or not. Uplinks can make it worse, yes, since will just camp the link and the Smart Deploy will spawn everyone else there too, but uplinks are the only way to break out from a Smart Deploy camp because they give people somewhere else to spawn. The trick is the uplinks need to be placed smart and too often that doesn't happen. Get your own links and maybe you'll be the one to save your team. Or get them all killed.
4. At the top of this feedback section is a Dev Sticky Thread about New Player advice, it's tips and advice from experienced players for new players. Go there, read a ton of good advice, last I looked it's like 5 pages long.
5. DUST University and Immortal Guides are both corps focused on helping new players learn the basics of DUST. Check them out.
Its not easy to be successful here in DUST, but if it was easy everybody would be doing it.
Good Luck, Have Fun and Be Profitable! o7 wonderful intro for the newberry :)
> LogiBro in Training
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
304
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:17:00 -
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Vitoka79 from SVK wrote:Vet: You are a new player so i recomend you to spawn way back in the base or in the MCC.Stay there till the veterans remove all the threats on the field that could harm you.We need clones so don't waste them,please. New guy: But there is no base or MCC in Ambush... Vet: If you play Ambush than you deserve smart deploy newguy: ambush? vet: change which matches you play newguy: how do i do that? vet:*bittervetfacepalm* newguy: ? vet: *blocks and stops talking* newguy: *leaves dust*
^ thats how it usually is
PS. smart deploy in ambush with an uplink available will send you to the uplink
> LogiBro in Training
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
304
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:20:00 -
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fear blood moon wrote:I have started playing this the last week here and I really enjoy the game, its just I am afraid to play ambush and sometimes i get rage when I play other variations of the game aswell... Reason being for all this ^^^ is that I am getting SPAWN KILLED... why would i run a proto suit if I am going to die the second i try to load the map..
the issue: people sit on the spawn location with heavy suits and heavy guns or invis scout + shotgun and you stand no chance spawning in.. NOT FUN NOT FUN NOT FUN NOT FUNNNNNNNN
I want to atleast stand a chance when I play the game, and if I die, so be it... just not .0005 seconds after i hit the spawn button..
my solution: If an enemy is at a MCU within a certain distance, it will AUTOMATICALLY START TO HACK IT (very slowly) and it will give a warning to the players spawning in that it is being hacked.
also for ambush----
BAN THE USE OF SPAWN LINKS IN AMBUSH! <--- why? ----> because... when a spawn uplink is placed in ambush the smart deploy becomes a STUPID DEPLOY and it spawns you at the spawn uplink every time... now if you combine that with the fact that everyone in ambush spawn camps... you have a reason that the game isn't any more fun.. and that is.... noob 1 drops spawn uplink, noob 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 all on the other team find the uplink and dont destroy it and sit around it.... then your whole team is auto death on spawn... and the game is over..
anyhow yea... other than that I like the game..
P.S. rail rifles + head glitch = stupid its not that much of a problem.. if you get killed near an Uplink you need to hold off on your respawn and assume they are going to push up and camp/destroy it.. its ambush.. Clones matter so dont just throw them into the meatgrinder with out takeing a moment to think "is it safe" :)
ps Rail rifle is not a glitch its just very accurate for any distance
> LogiBro in Training
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
304
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:21:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Can't speak for other playmodes (lots of safe places to spawn) but for Ambush ...
It should be impossible to "Smart Deploy" within 50 meters of any hostile. Seriously. The maps are sufficiently large. Put me somewhere other than right in front of f*cking red-dots. id go as far as to say 100 to 150m away as RR is OP for killing at 50m easly or spart deploy needs to consider the hud map rings.. 30m 60m 90m if any rasberrys will be in those rings its a NO-GO for deploy in that area
> LogiBro in Training
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3898
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:27:00 -
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Hurr durr why not spawn somewhere else instead on a CRU which is camped by 10 people? Ya know nobody forces you to do that. Select a different spawnpoint or chose "smart deploy" which makes it a better choise as stupiditly pres "X" to spawn on the next best thing. on ambush it works like this:
no CRU/uplinks= press X for random spawnpoint as soon a CRU/uplink is on your team= all spawns pressed with X are on the selected CRU/Uplink
solution: press triangle to get the random spawn which the game allready tells you to do.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
66
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:44:00 -
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Triangle is like, jumbo shrimp, and military intelligence.
"Smart Deploy"
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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