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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:47:00 -
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And somewhere else we can discuss HMG Heavies.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else discuss HMG Heavies.
... I saw what you did there!
Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2568
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:53:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else discuss HMG Heavies.
BA-ZING!
Seriously though, I was really hoping the Charlie sentinel nerf would take care of this nonsense. Turns out it just makes sentinels need slightly better core fitting skills.
On the plus side, with the assault buff I'll survive an extra 1.25 seconds against a STD HMG 
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1927
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:10:00 -
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See what you did there, I do.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1222
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:30:00 -
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I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
Kill Scotty
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5699
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:58:00 -
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i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
905
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Posted - 2014.08.08 22:04:00 -
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I don't discuss skill with people that thought they needed to try to be invisible to get near a battle and maybe get a few shots in before dying and crying about it, every ******* day.
Who farted?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11574
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Posted - 2014.08.08 22:08:00 -
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Refer to here for further reading
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Tectonic Fusion
1875
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Posted - 2014.08.08 23:24:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task.
Only when they flank you or you don't have cover or a Plasma Cannon.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1928
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Posted - 2014.08.08 23:25:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:I don't discuss skill with people that thought they needed to try to be invisible to get near a battle and maybe get a few shots in before dying and crying about it, every ******* day.
As a heavy, you are not allowed to post in this thread.
We are discussing player skill here.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5700
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Posted - 2014.08.08 23:55:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task. Only when they flank you or you don't have cover or a Plasma Cannon.
True.but thisis what im talking about. Manus peak and similar maps with a LOT of open area between objectives become a nightmare to cross.
I can 80% of the times manage it...AS A SCOUT, with CLOAK.
If im using a Med Frame or a Sentinel its an impossible task.
either they kill me, or when thy are about to die instateleport in the LAV and run of...well im sure you all know what im talkign about, i dont really need to explain.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
907
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Posted - 2014.08.09 00:07:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:I don't discuss skill with people that thought they needed to try to be invisible to get near a battle and maybe get a few shots in before dying and crying about it, every ******* day. As a heavy, you are not allowed to post in this thread. We are discussing player skill here.
My Scout suit agrees with my Heavy.
Who farted?
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
287
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Posted - 2014.08.09 01:28:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
scouts do it all the time and win.. they do a little quick step riverdance then BOOM HEADSHOT!
> LogiBro in Training
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16141
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Posted - 2014.08.09 01:47:00 -
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I have none.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3753
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Posted - 2014.08.09 01:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I have none.
Well you're in luck, good sir.
We have an HMG for that.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Zindorak
1.U.P
278
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Posted - 2014.08.09 02:48:00 -
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Player skill? What's that?
Pokemon master
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Bax Zanith
187
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:19:00 -
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You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right?
They didn't die from the cold without
They died from the cold within.
- James Patrick Kinney
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Jaselyn Cabellos
Kitties of Doom
75
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:23:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill..... scouts do it all the time and win.. they do a little quick step riverdance then BOOM HEADSHOT!
Lol, I do that and T-bag the Heavies after.
Knifing Tanks to Death - Since 2016
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7094
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:46:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right?
Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you.
Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you
see you space cowboy...
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else discuss HMG Heavies. BA-ZING! Seriously though, I was really hoping the Charlie sentinel nerf would take care of this nonsense. Turns out it just makes sentinels need slightly better core fitting skills. On the plus side, with the assault buff I'll survive an extra 1.25 seconds against a STD HMG
For me, not really.
Proto cal scout 452 shields vs hf charlie assault 509 shields, but 86 rep rate, but still not much more hp.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you
Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7095
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Posted - 2014.08.09 05:59:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you.
Metal Gear Solid 4's undetected trophy on BIG BOSS EXTREME mode would like a word with you.
see you space cowboy...
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11288
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:01:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right?
You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you.
What shall you do next?
If I don't, who will?
-HAND
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you. What shall you do next?
Pull out sidearm and try to use cover.
Max level brony.
Pink fluffy unicorns
http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos
Best song ever.
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Robocop Junior
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
544
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:04:00 -
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Socom 3 #1 on the leaderboards for 2 years for sniper kills. All quick/jump/CQC sniping. No radar, all suits had same HP, FF always on. There is little to no skill involved in Dust.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1863
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:21:00 -
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Until Lag is truly fixed skill cannot be discussed fully.
Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11288
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:24:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Atiim wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you. What shall you do next? Pull out sidearm and try to use cover.
No sidearm in this game is going to kill a Sentinel ak.0 with 5 competent players behind him.
If I don't, who will?
-HAND
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
913
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:34:00 -
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What you meant to say was,
Atiim wrote:Scotty will not allow a Sentinel ak.0 with 5 competent players behind him.
Right?
Who farted?
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
274
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Posted - 2014.08.09 07:53:00 -
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Every game reqiures skills.
Just not same lvl as others.
Skill games are at PC. (like CS , A.V.A)
Dust skill is little about strategy.
Also, sentiniel is below skill scale :).
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
956
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Posted - 2014.08.09 08:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you. What shall you do next?
Run for the hills as fast as you can... |
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
754
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Posted - 2014.08.09 08:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you. What shall you do next?
Detonate REs
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
755
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Posted - 2014.08.09 08:49:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
I'm not sure someone who hasn't tried using superior agility and stealth attacks should be taken seriously.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
999
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
Is that why the game spawns you in front of 5 heavies in an ambush map? |
I-Shayz-I
I----------I
4504
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:06:00 -
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Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
List of Legion Feedback Threads!
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
277
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:22:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
Good talk.
Combined with :
1. New assaults gonna have hight hp/regen (700armor with 20reps and 7m/s as amarr, or 50shields rep with 2/3delays in caldari)
2. Nova Knives fixes. Try to dodge that.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1832
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
I'm looking forward to the new slot layouts and overheat mechanics.
Still planning to run a juiced up minmatar speed ganker sentinel. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1939
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
IF anyone complains that they can't kill anything in the game with 10 seconds of an unrelentless stream of 900 DPS, i may just quit.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
170
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you. Metal Gear Solid 4's undetected trophy on BIG BOSS EXTREME mode would like a word with you.
Playing through Resident Evil on the PS1 only using the knife would like to have a word with you.
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:00:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right?
You do know you have no player skill right?
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3783
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:05:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!?
How 'bout we give balance a chance before going the way of the LLAV?
Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be yanked ...
... well, unless its 6 HAVs in Ambush. Get that sh*t out of here.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
142
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:15:00 -
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there is hardly no player that i have seen to date (been here since 1.5) that can truly say they win because of skill because there will always be a fotm or poor mechanic even in legion, whether it be a weapon or ewar module, stacking ehp or driving a tank(and of course the spray' and pray method used by heavies.)
The only people i can truly say won by skill and skill alone is lightning xvx i've seen him rip through squads using a basic ar on a cheap cal assault fit and lorelie zee, one man army'ing with a scp (before nerf).
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Thurak1
Psygod9
894
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else discuss HMG Heavies. BA-ZING! Seriously though, I was really hoping the Charlie sentinel nerf would take care of this nonsense. Turns out it just makes sentinels need slightly better core fitting skills. On the plus side, with the assault buff I'll survive an extra 1.25 seconds against a STD HMG
Really? So hotfix charlie is out already? |
Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV
If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything.
Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again.
So just remove them already. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3783
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:50:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms.
Not true. Everything has it's tactical point, so they should be balanced. Heavys have no tactical or strategic point to them. So why should we keep them? |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:04:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill..... I'm not sure someone who hasn't tried using superior agility and stealth attacks should be taken seriously.
I'm a swiss army knife, I've tried most of everything. Had my fun with agility & stealth and got bored of it before the cloak was introduced.
RKKR wrote:
Is that why the game spawns you in front of 5 heavies in an ambush map?
No, that would be due to sh!tty programing.
Kill Scotty
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:04:00 -
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The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
142
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:15:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears
lol i love tears of heavies who cry "nerf cal scout" "nerf cloak" "nerf shotgun" "nerf remotes" "Waah frisbee remotes" "Waah decloak is too quick" and i even seen"nerf scr" even though it is a shield based weapon.
so all you fatties that got my shitz nerfed who's laughing now i have 14 differing scout fits , what do you have hmg fit and forge fit lol
so let that fatties tears shed btw i'm willing to fund the founding of a corp called "weight watchers"
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Thurak1
Psygod9
895
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:20:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already.
You obviously have never played a heavy. I wonder if you are one of the newbs i chew up and spit out on a regular basis because you charge headlong at my heavy.
Here is the thing there is a very definate advantage and drawback to at least the base stats of all the suits.
You want speed? You want a scout suit its fast but its lacking in ehps.
You want something somewhat fast but not paper thin? you want a assault suit.
You want to have a slugfest and mow down people at close range? You want a heavy you will get ehps but you are slow.
Want to take out a heavy. Its a breeze engage out 60m or more or be a crafty scout and take them out with a sg or nk or maybe a combination of the 2.
The "tacticle" point of a heavy really are 2 possibilities.
1 move in behind the assault suits and help clean out an area of stragglers
2 point defense and call for help when needed.
I myself have been gunned down multiple times from a smart opponent engaging outside my optimal range and strafing me to death. |
ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:37:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already.
How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain.
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:39:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already. How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain.
To be fair, he never claimed to have a brain...
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:46:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MythTanker wrote:The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears lol i love tears of heavies who cry "nerf cal scout" "nerf cloak" "nerf shotgun" "nerf remotes" "Waah frisbee remotes" "Waah decloak is too quick" and i even seen"nerf scr" even though it is a shield based weapon. so all you fatties that got my shitz nerfed who's laughing now i have 14 differing scout fits , what do you have hmg fit and forge fit lol so let that fatties tears shed btw i'm willing to fund the founding of a corp called "weight watchers"
so many things I want to say but sadly you would never understand as apparently one of the requirements of being a scout is diarrheaing your brain onto the floor then setting it on fire to the chant, "It takes skill to be an invisible wallhacker" and afterwards p*ss on the ashes and smear it about the room chanting, "I should be able to fight HMG from the front".
edited for grammer errors as I am not a stupid wallhacker...
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:06:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already. How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain. To be fair, he never claimed to have a brain...
And I never said I was a scout. If you feel the need to wage war against scouts, than be my guest. |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
280
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:07:00 -
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And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:17:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
HA! once again wallhackers doing what they do best... deflecting their OPness while trying to make a scapegoat of the heavy  At least newberries can see a heavy coming and adjust their strategy accordingly. Please tell me oh wise(lol) one what can a newberry do against a cloaked(invisible) scout(wallhacker)? AH! I know... eat a SG blast to the back of the head, quit the game, and never look back... And you miserable excuses for mercs DARE to tell me it's the heavy's fault? Biomass please for the sake of this game 
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Orion Vahid
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
271
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:30:00 -
[56] - Quote
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:34:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
And I never said I was a scout. If you feel the need to wage war against scouts, than be my guest.
I was just making a joke, not waging war on scouts.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
895
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:44:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
Its called and angle learn to use them. Even in most towns or compounds there are ways to engage at a distance.
I know because the SMART players take out my sentinal suit on a regular basis by using angles to get a shot at me from further out than i expect.
Also when all else fails you can always use a grenade. I know its a foreighn concept but grenades are a great way to thin ranks when you need to move into an area. Learn how to cook them well and you might even take out a few suits with 1 toss.
It really isnt like sentinals are OP or very hard to kill you just cant engage them in cqc and expect to win.
You dont hear me complaining about snipers taking me out from afar with their scope and being so far out of range all i can see is 1 pixle of them.
I dont complain about that because that is their role. Complaining about a heavy being effective in cqc is very much the same ridiculous complaint. Should i start to complain about scouts being OP because they run faster than me? |
TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
4048
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you. Metal Gear Solid 4's undetected trophy on BIG BOSS EXTREME mode would like a word with you.
Scrubs.
Low gravity instagib or sniper matches would like to have a word with you both.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
151
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else to discuss HMG Heavies.
We will then discuss how the perma 360 scan on scouts is beyond ezmode..
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3789
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:49:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Raging
Fun Facts
* Heavies are OP.
* Scouts are OP.
* For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam.
* For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:50:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote: Should i start to complain about scouts being OP because they run faster than me?
yes, yes you should these pieces of cancer want to have their cake and eat it too...
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
210
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:00:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MythTanker wrote:The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears lol i love tears of heavies who cry "nerf cal scout" "nerf cloak" "nerf shotgun" "nerf remotes" "Waah frisbee remotes" "Waah decloak is too quick" and i even seen"nerf scr" even though it is a shield based weapon. so all you fatties that got my shitz nerfed who's laughing now i have 14 differing scout fits , what do you have hmg fit and forge fit lol so let that fatties tears shed btw i'm willing to fund the founding of a corp called "weight watchers"
1. I never agreed with most of them nerfs true heavies wouldn't.
2. Im not fat, im big boned.
3. I have many different speed, AV, tank, and rep suits. You dont know much about us do you?
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:01:00 -
[64] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam.
Exactly. So why not just remove heavys and nerf scouts already? |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:05:00 -
[65] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam.
Lol yeah, no bias there. There are just as many scouts that think everything is fine so stop smoking weed in the stables cause your horse is too damn high.
Kill Scotty
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam.
MOar fun factzz..!!!11!
I believe that the tweaks in charlie will do wonders to address light weapon and FOTM heavies(ps i agree with tweaks)
Cancer(scouts) in their apparently infinite hatred of the heavy CONTINUE TO PLEAD FOR NERFS like the blight they are
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:11:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam. Exactly. So why not just remove heavys and nerf scouts already?
OOOOOOR... you could remove yourself 
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3791
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:18:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam. Lol yeah, no bias there. There are just as many scouts that think everything is fine so stop smoking weed in the stables cause your horse is too damn high.
Don't take my word for it, Mr. Swiss Army.
There's a dense concentration of Scouts who hang out in the Barbershop.
Feel free to swing by the Locker Room and ask around for yourself.
As for Heavies ... have a look at all the relevant threads and balance discussions.
Breakin Stuff, Fox Gaden and Vicious Minotaur shoot straight.
The rest sound like Taki and Spkr discussing HAV balance.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Thurak1
Psygod9
896
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:21:00 -
[69] - Quote
Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam. Exactly. So why not just remove heavys and nerf scouts already?
Using your logic why have more than 1 dropsuit type? It would make balance so much easier to obtain to just have 1 suit.
Heck why not just 1 weapon also? Make it a really level playing feild everyone only has 1 option. O ya lets get rid of that pesky skill system also because that can provide an unfair edge also. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:33:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task.
2 AV nades, never been easier.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
210
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:35:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task. 2 AV nades, never been easier.
i disagree at one point it was 1 AV nade.... i miss the lolz
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam. Lol yeah, no bias there. There are just as many scouts that think everything is fine so stop smoking weed in the stables cause your horse is too damn high. Don't take my word for it, Mr. Swiss Army. There's a dense concentration of Scouts who hang out in the Barbershop. Feel free to swing by the Locker Room and ask around for yourself. As for Heavies ... have a look at all the relevant threads and balance discussions. Breakin Stuff, Fox Gaden and Vicious Minotaur shoot straight. The rest sound like Taki and Spkr discussing HAV balance.
You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
Kill Scotty
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
255
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:42:00 -
[73] - Quote
Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Raging Fun Facts* Heavies are OP. * Scouts are OP. * For every 20 Heavies, 19 will tell you that everything is fine and refuse to acknowledge the spam. * For every 20 Scouts, 15 will agree that they're OP then offer suggestions on how to fix the spam. Lol yeah, no bias there. There are just as many scouts that think everything is fine so stop smoking weed in the stables cause your horse is too damn high. Don't take my word for it, Mr. Swiss Army. There's a dense concentration of Scouts who hang out in the Barbershop. Feel free to swing by the Locker Room and ask around for yourself. As for Heavies ... have a look at all the relevant threads and balance discussions. Breakin Stuff, Fox Gaden and Vicious Minotaur shoot straight. The rest sound like Taki and Spkr discussing HAV balance. You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
People who don't forum at all obviously have no dedication in the game or are not as good or less informed, I've been here since closed beta.
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
26
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:45:00 -
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Hmmmmm well this thread can be summed up in three words :P
Haters gonna hate
I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3793
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:54:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:
You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
If CCP polled mercs on balance via in-game mail, I'd agree with you 100%. But until that occurs, the Forums are this community's best bet at pointing out problems. Corroborating in-game usage statistics with forum feedback patterns is a good enough balance barometer for me. Flawed or not, it's all we've got, and it appears to be working now that Rattati's behind the wheel.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:02:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Thumb Green wrote:
You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
If CCP polled mercs on balance via in-game mail, I'd agree with you 100%. But until that occurs, the Forums are this community's best bet at pointing out problems. Corroborating in-game usage statistics with forum feedback patterns is a good enough balance barometer for me. Flawed or not, it's all we've got, and it appears to be working now that Rattati's behind the wheel.
I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing your assertion that 15 out of 20 scouts will admit there is a problem; which cannot be based on the minority that frequent the forums. I'd say "15 out of 20 scouts on the forums will admit there is a problem" is fine but if I said that you'd realize I'm being a pedant about it.
Kill Scotty
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TechMechMeds
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
4050
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:08:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:Hmmmmm well this thread can be summed up in three words :P
Haters gonna hate
Or
Mines the biggest.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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TechMechMeds
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
4062
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:09:00 -
[78] - Quote
Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thumb Green wrote:
You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
If CCP polled mercs on balance via in-game mail, I'd agree with you 100%. But until that occurs, the Forums are this community's best bet at pointing out problems. Corroborating in-game usage statistics with forum feedback patterns is a good enough balance barometer for me. Flawed or not, it's all we've got, and it appears to be working now that Rattati's behind the wheel. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing your assertion that 15 out of 20 scouts will admit there is a problem; which cannot be based on the minority that frequent the forums. I'd say "15 out of 20 scouts on the forums will admit there is a problem" is fine but if I said that you'd realize I'm being a pedant about it.
I'd say 15/20 of anything are plain sht with me jumping in and out of that category depending on how much I can be bothered to play well.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
268
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:i dont give a f*** about HMG's, its heavies with HMG's ON LAV that insta teleport in and out of them making running away or killing them extremely hard task.
Really, there's so many ways to counter that... Forge gun kill the jeep while he's in it... Forge him out of the drivers seat... shoot him until he climbs back in and then shoot the drivers seat... proximity explosive/remote explosive... Your very own OP HMG....
The list truly goes on.
Personally I'd like it if instead of heat build up it had a charge time & a turn speed slowdown while firing. |
Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11300
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:15:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms.
Well we'd also have the Commandos.
If I don't, who will?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3796
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:17:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thumb Green wrote:
You can't base numbers like that on the minority that frequent the forums; sampling bias is the phrase for that. If you think scouts are more righteous than heavies (which would be an illusory correlation) then you obviously haven't noticed that there are as much of one as there is the other stomping the sh!t out of medium suits.
If CCP polled mercs on balance via in-game mail, I'd agree with you 100%. But until that occurs, the Forums are this community's best bet at pointing out problems. Corroborating in-game usage statistics with forum feedback patterns is a good enough balance barometer for me. Flawed or not, it's all we've got, and it appears to be working now that Rattati's behind the wheel. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing your assertion that 15 out of 20 scouts will admit there is a problem; which cannot be based on the minority that frequent the forums. I'd say "15 out of 20 scouts on the forums will admit there is a problem" is fine but if I said that you'd realize I'm being a pedant about it.
Your logic is spot on. I could revise my post as follows for the sake of accuracy:
Fun Facts ... now with more accuracy
* Heavies are OP.
* Scouts are OP.
* 19 / 20 forum-going Heavies insist that everything is fine and refuse to even acknowledge the spam.
* 15 / 20 forum-going Scouts acknowledge that they're broken and are actively seeking to get themselves fixed.
But the point and punch are lost in all that wordiness. Benefits of Brevity foregone.
Nonetheless, you are 100% correct and have earned a well-deserved +1. Thank you.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms. Well we'd also have the Commandos.
Let me be more clear.
I'm not saying remove heavys because they are OP. I'm saying remove heavys because they serve no tactical point in a game all about tactics. Point defense you say? Anyone can do that, infact scouts can do it better. |
Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
268
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:33:00 -
[83] - Quote
Copharus Arkana wrote:Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms. Well we'd also have the Commandos. Let me be more clear. I'm not saying remove heavys because they are OP. I'm saying remove heavys because they serve no tactical point in a game all about tactics. Point defense you say? Anyone can do that, infact scouts can do it better.
Okay, but if we remove heavys, I want my forge gun on a scout. |
Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
5001
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:37:00 -
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Threadnought-to-be
OP FOTM lacks cognition
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
259
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:52:00 -
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2030
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Posted - 2014.08.09 18:54:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms. Well we'd also have the Commandos. Let me be more clear. I'm not saying remove heavys because they are OP. I'm saying remove heavys because they serve no tactical point in a game all about tactics. Point defense you say? Anyone can do that, infact scouts can do it better.
Point defense isnt objective defense... Your point is invalid. Btw i use both regularly
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.08.09 20:37:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms. Well we'd also have the Commandos. Let me be more clear. I'm not saying remove heavys because they are OP. I'm saying remove heavys because they serve no tactical point in a game all about tactics. Point defense you say? Anyone can do that, infact scouts can do it better.
So a heavy *can* do that! Nerf the scout and a heavy most definitely will do it better. I think they do now anyway, but you debate that point and that's your prerogative. It is moot when you consider that scouts too are OP. If we manage to make a scout a scout again, and create some sort of penalty to balance them both (perhaps in the shape of an assault suit that will mess you up in groups), then heavies will fulfil a tactical role.
Do you not remember pre-1.8? Do you not remember AR-514? We're going back to that....now with added HP.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Thurak1
Psygod9
900
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Posted - 2014.08.09 20:41:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms. Well we'd also have the Commandos. Let me be more clear. I'm not saying remove heavys because they are OP. I'm saying remove heavys because they serve no tactical point in a game all about tactics. Point defense you say? Anyone can do that, infact scouts can do it better. So a heavy *can* do that! Nerf the scout and a heavy most definitely will do it better. I think they do now anyway, but you debate that point and that's your prerogative. It is moot when you consider that scouts too are OP. If we manage to make a scout a scout again, and create some sort of penalty to balance them both (perhaps in the shape of an assault suit that will mess you up in groups), then heavies will fulfil a tactical role. Do you not remember pre-1.8? Do you not remember AR-514? We're going back to that....now with added HP.
I remember ar514
Lol I still have proto ar because of it. Back then running a heavy with proto ar was amazing. I had just about everything except speed. I had great range great ROF good accuracy and good ehps. I could take out nearly any suit within 100 meters.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.08.09 20:46:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
Do you not remember pre-1.8? Do you not remember AR-514? We're going back to that....now with added HP.
I remember ar514 Lol I still have proto ar because of it. Back then running a heavy with proto ar was amazing. I had just about everything except speed. I had great range great ROF good accuracy and good ehps. I could take out nearly any suit within 100 meters. Now its all about the rail rifle.
Yeah I guess I meant rifles specifically in the hands of assault suits - that's what AR-514 means to me ;-)
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1946
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Posted - 2014.08.09 21:04:00 -
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To become good as a heavy, you need 2 things- 7 million SP, and the ability to hold down R1.
The nerfs in Charlie are going to make it so that you need 9 million SP now instead. Thats it.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.09 21:13:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:To become good as a heavy, you need 2 things- 7 million SP, and the ability to hold down R1.
The nerfs in Charlie are going to make it so that you need 9 million SP now instead. Thats it.
to be good as a scout even with a scrub dragonfly bpo suit you need to cloak and tap r1 occasionally.
At least you can easily see and hit the heavy though. |
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