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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.08.09 08:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? You've got a Swarm Launcher, and you've killed the enemy tank. Though he's jumped out in a Sentinel ak.0 with a Boundless HMG, and has sicked his entire squad after you. What shall you do next?
Detonate REs
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.08.09 08:49:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
I'm not sure someone who hasn't tried using superior agility and stealth attacks should be taken seriously.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
999
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill.....
Is that why the game spawns you in front of 5 heavies in an ambush map? |
I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:06:00 -
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Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
277
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:22:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
Good talk.
Combined with :
1. New assaults gonna have hight hp/regen (700armor with 20reps and 7m/s as amarr, or 50shields rep with 2/3delays in caldari)
2. Nova Knives fixes. Try to dodge that.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1832
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
I'm looking forward to the new slot layouts and overheat mechanics.
Still planning to run a juiced up minmatar speed ganker sentinel. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1939
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Watch 90% of the heavies out there come to the forums after charlie and complain about the overheat mechanic.
I bet you 10 million isk it will happen, and I will laugh as I proceed to wreck face with my Six Kin Burst, melting fake heavy after fake heavy.
No longer will these players win just by spamming anymore, and the more I will laugh at every time I see a heavy in the overheat animation.
IF anyone complains that they can't kill anything in the game with 10 seconds of an unrelentless stream of 900 DPS, i may just quit.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
170
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Posted - 2014.08.09 11:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you. Metal Gear Solid 4's undetected trophy on BIG BOSS EXTREME mode would like a word with you.
Playing through Resident Evil on the PS1 only using the knife would like to have a word with you.
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:00:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right?
You do know you have no player skill right?
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3783
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:05:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!?
How 'bout we give balance a chance before going the way of the LLAV?
Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be yanked ...
... well, unless its 6 HAVs in Ambush. Get that sh*t out of here.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
142
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:15:00 -
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there is hardly no player that i have seen to date (been here since 1.5) that can truly say they win because of skill because there will always be a fotm or poor mechanic even in legion, whether it be a weapon or ewar module, stacking ehp or driving a tank(and of course the spray' and pray method used by heavies.)
The only people i can truly say won by skill and skill alone is lightning xvx i've seen him rip through squads using a basic ar on a cheap cal assault fit and lorelie zee, one man army'ing with a scp (before nerf).
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else discuss HMG Heavies. BA-ZING! Seriously though, I was really hoping the Charlie sentinel nerf would take care of this nonsense. Turns out it just makes sentinels need slightly better core fitting skills. On the plus side, with the assault buff I'll survive an extra 1.25 seconds against a STD HMG 
Really? So hotfix charlie is out already? |
Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV
If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything.
Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again.
So just remove them already. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3783
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:50:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.09 14:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
[snip] ... so just remove them already.
If we pulled every item that was ever OP, all we'd have left is Assault Suits, Plasma Cannons and a few really sh*tty sidearms.
Not true. Everything has it's tactical point, so they should be balanced. Heavys have no tactical or strategic point to them. So why should we keep them? |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:04:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I'm not sure if someone that tries to take a hmg head on is qualified to discuss skill..... I'm not sure someone who hasn't tried using superior agility and stealth attacks should be taken seriously.
I'm a swiss army knife, I've tried most of everything. Had my fun with agility & stealth and got bored of it before the cloak was introduced.
RKKR wrote:
Is that why the game spawns you in front of 5 heavies in an ambush map?
No, that would be due to sh!tty programing.
Kill Scotty
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MythTanker
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:04:00 -
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The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
142
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:15:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears
lol i love tears of heavies who cry "nerf cal scout" "nerf cloak" "nerf shotgun" "nerf remotes" "Waah frisbee remotes" "Waah decloak is too quick" and i even seen"nerf scr" even though it is a shield based weapon.
so all you fatties that got my shitz nerfed who's laughing now i have 14 differing scout fits , what do you have hmg fit and forge fit lol
so let that fatties tears shed btw i'm willing to fund the founding of a corp called "weight watchers"
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Thurak1
Psygod9
895
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:20:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already.
You obviously have never played a heavy. I wonder if you are one of the newbs i chew up and spit out on a regular basis because you charge headlong at my heavy.
Here is the thing there is a very definate advantage and drawback to at least the base stats of all the suits.
You want speed? You want a scout suit its fast but its lacking in ehps.
You want something somewhat fast but not paper thin? you want a assault suit.
You want to have a slugfest and mow down people at close range? You want a heavy you will get ehps but you are slow.
Want to take out a heavy. Its a breeze engage out 60m or more or be a crafty scout and take them out with a sg or nk or maybe a combination of the 2.
The "tacticle" point of a heavy really are 2 possibilities.
1 move in behind the assault suits and help clean out an area of stragglers
2 point defense and call for help when needed.
I myself have been gunned down multiple times from a smart opponent engaging outside my optimal range and strafing me to death. |
ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:37:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already.
How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain.
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:39:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already. How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain.
To be fair, he never claimed to have a brain...
Kill Scotty
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 15:46:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MythTanker wrote:The tears on this thread are delicious... on a serious note, why dont you guys wait till HF charlie? Or is it the fact that you know that the good heavies will stay you would actually have to WORK ON COUNTERS? Either way keep on bitching... I love them tears lol i love tears of heavies who cry "nerf cal scout" "nerf cloak" "nerf shotgun" "nerf remotes" "Waah frisbee remotes" "Waah decloak is too quick" and i even seen"nerf scr" even though it is a shield based weapon. so all you fatties that got my shitz nerfed who's laughing now i have 14 differing scout fits , what do you have hmg fit and forge fit lol so let that fatties tears shed btw i'm willing to fund the founding of a corp called "weight watchers"
so many things I want to say but sadly you would never understand as apparently one of the requirements of being a scout is diarrheaing your brain onto the floor then setting it on fire to the chant, "It takes skill to be an invisible wallhacker" and afterwards p*ss on the ashes and smear it about the room chanting, "I should be able to fight HMG from the front".
edited for grammer errors as I am not a stupid wallhacker...
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:06:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:
Heavys are just a crutch, they should be removed from the game.
Whoa now!? How 'bout we give balance a chance before going crazy? Broken things can be fixed; they don't have to be *yanked. * Notable exceptions: Vehicles in ambush, Manus's peak, CalMando's colorscheme, LLAV If you think about it, there is no tactical point to heavys. All they do is walk around and gun down anything that moves without even needing to think about how he should gun down anything that moves. Getting shot isnt a problem for them because all they have to do is turn around and that person dies. It dosnt matter if they can be scaned, they have more than enough ehp and dps to blow away anything. Nerfing heavys wont work, they will wine there fat a**es off until there OP again. So just remove them already. How bout we remove scouts eh after all they are the equivalent of what normally gets F*CKING BANNED FROM EVERY LEGITIMATE FPS EVER with their wallhack mechanic and invisibility. And if you even TRY to pretend that it takes skill to wallhack behind some one while INVISIBLE and SG them in the back, i will tell you to shove your head into a meat grinder until the stupid gets scraped off that underutilized mass of neurons that you pathetically attempt to call a brain. To be fair, he never claimed to have a brain...
And I never said I was a scout. If you feel the need to wage war against scouts, than be my guest. |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:07:00 -
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And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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ShamelessALT
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:17:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
HA! once again wallhackers doing what they do best... deflecting their OPness while trying to make a scapegoat of the heavy  At least newberries can see a heavy coming and adjust their strategy accordingly. Please tell me oh wise(lol) one what can a newberry do against a cloaked(invisible) scout(wallhacker)? AH! I know... eat a SG blast to the back of the head, quit the game, and never look back... And you miserable excuses for mercs DARE to tell me it's the heavy's fault? Biomass please for the sake of this game 
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
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Orion Vahid
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
271
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:30:00 -
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1226
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:34:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:
And I never said I was a scout. If you feel the need to wage war against scouts, than be my guest.
I was just making a joke, not waging war on scouts.
Kill Scotty
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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:44:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:And here comes reality.
Sentiniels are cheap and easy way to get point. They spam them. While 70% points are in towns, you cant engage at range. Cus max distance you engage them is 30meters.
So stop telling us that heavy is a good thing.
And i can say that Heavies killed this game more than scouts.
Its called and angle learn to use them. Even in most towns or compounds there are ways to engage at a distance.
I know because the SMART players take out my sentinal suit on a regular basis by using angles to get a shot at me from further out than i expect.
Also when all else fails you can always use a grenade. I know its a foreighn concept but grenades are a great way to thin ranks when you need to move into an area. Learn how to cook them well and you might even take out a few suits with 1 toss.
It really isnt like sentinals are OP or very hard to kill you just cant engage them in cqc and expect to win.
You dont hear me complaining about snipers taking me out from afar with their scope and being so far out of range all i can see is 1 pixle of them.
I dont complain about that because that is their role. Complaining about a heavy being effective in cqc is very much the same ridiculous complaint. Should i start to complain about scouts being OP because they run faster than me? |
TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
4048
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:You do know that nothing in this game requires player skill, right? Plasma Cannon Shot from 187 meters away would like a word with you. Ion Pistol Would also like a word with you Battlefield 4 rpg shot to enemy base helicopter over 300m away would like to have a word with you. Metal Gear Solid 4's undetected trophy on BIG BOSS EXTREME mode would like a word with you.
Scrubs.
Low gravity instagib or sniper matches would like to have a word with you both.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
151
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Posted - 2014.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:When finished, we can find somewhere else to discuss HMG Heavies.
We will then discuss how the perma 360 scan on scouts is beyond ezmode..
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
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