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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:40:00 -
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Let's talk about it.....
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1431
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:40:00 -
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Don't think its happening anymore...
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5693
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:43:00 -
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danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it.....
Lets just NOT talk about it.
Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more...
BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1431
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
An Incubus will tear you down in no time. If 500 shields is that big of a deal to people... Damn.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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upside down poster
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:48:00 -
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Michael Arck
5186
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:57:00 -
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Possibly a formula that will cause a reaction not healthy, leading to a change later on. This shouldnt be band aid for the problem pilots have with the collision damage discussion. I hope that isnt the motivation for it.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Top Men.
2465
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Posted - 2014.08.07 22:59:00 -
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Until they are not so squishy (500 shields is literally nothing) they should be low priced
Put these items in legion as they will add diversity to vehicles as they did before!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
626
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:14:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. An Incubus will tear you down in no time. If 500 shields is that big of a deal to people... Damn.
Damn Incubus always gets me with a railgun... |
Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
347
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:15:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3247
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:37:00 -
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The 500 shield boost is huge and simply shouldn't happen I have expressed my stance on this clearly, it makes the eHP gap too small, between shields and armour, it's also a 25% (or there abouts) buf to the pythons base ehp and simply isn't necessary.
The price drop is a good thing it will allow pilots to make a profit.
If you don't like them get and advanced swarm launcher and blast them out of the sky.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Top Men.
2465
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Posted - 2014.08.07 23:40:00 -
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When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing
Put these items in legion as they will add diversity to vehicles as they did before!
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3886
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
Only if the guys on the ground are total morons. Any decent player who got killed by a ADS will either get a forgegun or if you are really unlucky he will call in a incubus and chase the python with a small rail. And the 500 extra shields mean that i will take 1 1/2 more small rail projectiles more.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1151
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:19:00 -
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it's a poorly thought out bone throw.. depends upon the final price..? the price was already reduced once before.
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AFKing since 2012
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Top Men.
2469
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:20:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:it's a poorly thought out bone throw.. depends upon the final price..? the price was already reduced once before.
I never noticed a price drop before, If they had one
Put these items in legion as they will add diversity to vehicles as they did before!
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Zindorak
1.U.P
269
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:39:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore...
This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1028
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Posted - 2014.08.08 02:31:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought.
Maybe we shouldn't decide price by KDR, but it is important in determining balance. Any one player having a particularly high or low KDR reflects in that person, but the average of ALL players using that fit show if it is the fit or the player. If it is the fit, then there is a problem.
Now what do you think the average KDR is for Python pilots? I think it is much higher than most other fits. If you think that KDR shouldn't determine price do you agree that price shouldn't determine KDR? So why the buff to shields again?
Because, that's why.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
270
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Posted - 2014.08.08 02:32:00 -
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danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it.....
no they are too pwoerful and advanced dropships if anything they need a price hike
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2827
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Posted - 2014.08.08 02:55:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore... This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them
Mommy, look!
Poor people! |
danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:01:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Zindorak wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore... This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them Mommy, look! Poor people!
Im amazed you didnt say git gud.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2829
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:07:00 -
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danie braz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Zindorak wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore... This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them Mommy, look! Poor people! Im amazed you didnt say git gud.
Nah. This guy is probably better than I am when it comes to piloting those things. Plus, I hate that phrase since it is spelled horribly and used often. |
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:09:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:danie braz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Zindorak wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore... This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them Mommy, look! Poor people! Im amazed you didnt say git gud. Nah. This guy is probably better than I am when it comes to piloting those things. Plus, I hate that phrase since it is spelled horribly and used often.
^ deserving of its own thread.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
752
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
Literally never seen that happen during my game.3 easy shots from my ishukone can drop any ADS dead unless it's a super tanked incubis with terrible repair rate.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5694
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:44:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. An Incubus will tear you down in no time. If 500 shields is that big of a deal to people... Damn.
HAHA who says im going to fly vs ANOTHER dropship, im not that skilled. If there are enemy dropships i use AV, if there are not,then i use the ADS. XD
( i still suck heavily but i managed to kill 3 dudes and 2 uplinks and scare the **** out of a tank in day 1 XD)
PS:Rail turrets hurt.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1254
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Posted - 2014.08.08 04:24:00 -
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danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it.....
Lets not and say we did
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
914
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:41:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought.
Scouts? Yes, they need a price increase to pay for that speed increase.
The top of every leaderboard I've played the past few weeks has almost consistently been Scouts... in the top 4 slots.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
273
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:44:00 -
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ADS are ADV vehicles. Thats why they cost only 300k.
Yes. They are cheap.
You can get out from AVs with afterburner. No big deal.
But you guys know that driving in tanks is more expensive?
They cost same as fited ADS but they are wrecked 3x time easier.
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Markiplier fan.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2667
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Posted - 2014.08.08 07:42:00 -
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There is no mention of it in the Charlie Hotfix notes. So not happening in Charlie.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
743
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Posted - 2014.08.08 07:48:00 -
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Price drop? We are there. I just roll with the changes good or bad at this point in the game, you cant have it like you want it all the time so strap on your boots and stomp in the mud.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
262
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Posted - 2014.08.08 08:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
Can do that with a rifle... or a forge gun... or a hmg... Better make everything cost more. |
Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
348
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:07:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought. Maybe we shouldn't decide price by KDR, but it is important in determining balance. Any one player having a particularly high or low KDR reflects in that person, but the average of ALL players using that fit show if it is the fit or the player. If it is the fit, then there is a problem. Now what do you think the average KDR is for Python pilots? I think it is much higher than most other fits. If you think that KDR shouldn't determine price do you agree that price shouldn't determine KDR? So why the buff to shields again?
500 shields will have minimal effect on survivability. And though the best pilots can easily go 30/0, I don't see people manage it often. I'd be surprised if the average kills across the board are higher than 20, as for deaths, most of us run ground after we lose one ADS in a match so it probably goes up significantly.
I concur that price should not determine KDR though. I'd love to see CCP statistics on ADS kills versus deaths, but they'd only be able to track ADS destruction most likely, not whether the pilot was killed in it.
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Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
349
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:12:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:ADS are ADV vehicles. Thats why they cost only 300k.
Yes. They are cheap.
You can get out from AVs with afterburner. No big deal.
But you guys know that driving in tanks is more expensive?
They cost same as fited ADS but they are wrecked 3x time easier.
I couldn't stop laughing, thanks for that.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2668
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:16:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:500 shields will have minimal effect on suitability.
Yes. and no. here is a chart for the python builds in bravo compared to Charlie. Pythons will take 1 more Hit to kill., however the hardened Python will gain more than other builds. BUT this is balanced by the engagement window of the hardener.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
244
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game with 0 av or mlt av they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks.
Fixed.
Not to mention pythons get thrown everywhere, have hovering problems & more.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
244
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:22:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:500 shields will have minimal effect on suitability. Yes. and no. here is a chart for the python builds in bravo compared to Charlie. Pythons will take 1 more Hit to kill., however the hardened Python will gain more than other builds. BUT this is balanced by the engagement window of the hardener.
True, true, although having high cooldown low duration always seemed stupid.
Feels good to see that cpm tag.
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Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
350
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:30:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:500 shields will have minimal effect on suitability. Yes. and no. here is a chart for the python builds in bravo compared to Charlie. Pythons will take 1 more Hit to kill., however the hardened Python will gain more than other builds. BUT this is balanced by the engagement window of the hardener.
I wish the graphics weren't blurry on my phone. Yes the hardened Python gets a significant boost from this, but unhardened EHP doesn't reach the HP of a hardened Python in bravo. And personally, not all my fittings have hardeners, I actually see quite a few people running without them.
A lot of others seem to forget though that shield regen rate is not changing, this means slightly longer disengagement to regen shields as well.
Edit: that tag is sexy though ;)
Not new, just new to you.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2670
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:49:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:I wish the graphics weren't blurry on my phone. Yes the hardened Python gets a significant boost from this, but unhardened EHP doesn't reach the HP of a hardened Python in bravo. And personally, not all my fittings have hardeners, I actually see quite a few people running without them.
A lot of others seem to forget though that shield regen rate is not changing, this means slightly longer disengagement to regen shields as well.
Edit: that tag is sexy though ;)
Thanks for liking my new tag sexyness :). The hardened python is the tankiest fit, but limited by that hardener cooldown. You are almost a OHK to some forges when unhardened. I run the hardened fit all the time. Its the strongest for my style of hit and run and tank hunting. If that hardener is down though and you are a dead man.
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Lanius Pulvis
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
350
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:09:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:I wish the graphics weren't blurry on my phone. Yes the hardened Python gets a significant boost from this, but unhardened EHP doesn't reach the HP of a hardened Python in bravo. And personally, not all my fittings have hardeners, I actually see quite a few people running without them.
A lot of others seem to forget though that shield regen rate is not changing, this means slightly longer disengagement to regen shields as well.
Edit: that tag is sexy though ;) Thanks for liking my new tag sexyness :). The hardened python is the tankiest fit, but limited by that hardener cooldown. You are almost a OHK to some forges when unhardened. I run the hardened fit all the time. Its the strongest for my style of hit and run and tank hunting. If that hardener is down though and you are a dead man.
I'm actually a fan of triple extenders, yes I have a long regen, but I've found as long as I stay out of range that whole time AV loses me or forgets about me before I come back. I have yet to see a significant difference in survivability between the two for my playstyle. And if I run with gunners I use one extender, one hardener and a scanner.
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:34:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:There is no mention of it in the Charlie Hotfix notes. So not happening in Charlie.
The av vs ads bug. Was it fixed?
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
Dark Taboo
45
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:40:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing
Seriously 2000m!?
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:47:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing Seriously 2000m!?
At one point the missile installation did damage to the mcc. The mcc flew around too.
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
Dark Taboo
46
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:52:00 -
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danie braz wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing Seriously 2000m!? At one point the missile installation did damage to the mcc. The mcc flew around too.
Yeah I remember the mcc moving because I was around for that but when were the missle installations doing damage to the mcc?  This is the first time I heard it.
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
305
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Posted - 2014.08.08 15:25:00 -
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reading the comments I`m going to repeat the issues on both sides to make a point:
issue 1: KDR of 30/0
isseu 2: ADS are expensive
issue 3: Python vs Incumbus (with a railgun that makes sense though since Python are sheild based and railguns are AV with a slight +to sheilds).
ADS needs to be cheapened so they could be used more oftenly and AV need to take them down easily. AV (AS A ROLE) that means they get as much chances to be used as a role as a dropship pilot THEY ARE BOTH ROLES no more "oh a vehicle, wheres a depot I need to switch for a few moments" or a "well I lost to much cash gonna have to use starter fits for a few battles" would you play a logi only when a depot was close and some one was downed? with the combonation of both AV shooting down ADS/DS and getting more vehcile encounters they fluorish as a role and get the deserved SP returns while ADS get to be played as a role (becuse it is one).
issues to get through:
pilots biggest issue are the dumb stuff like bolases, magnitism to street lights, landing gear etc, thoose aren`t going to get fixed anytime soon and with AV suggesting to be stronger above the cash drop is important but another issue is, how effective is the AV, I want AV don`t get me wrong but not to the point where a ADS can`t do its job either, if instead of boosting AV and G2A only AV would be a good salution since it makes AV able to take down ADS/DS as a tool to a role without boosting all AV (which to note couses problems to other vehicles everytime) while thoose fonny AV can puch back ADS but not effectivly so ADS can get it good enough.
so that means: new suggested G2A AV weapon super effective against ADS/DS to allow: ADS/DA to be used offtenly, to be killed offtenly, to be usefull often enough, both roles are happy and both roles are roles, no more non-sense. |
danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2014.08.08 17:10:00 -
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My OP was asking if the ISK reduction was coming. Just makes it hard for new pilots.
But imo. The regen of vehicles is too much ( armor shield ). I go one on one we a ADS and throw 5-6 volleys to nearly kill them. They go outside my range for 10-15 secs and come back. By that time my ammo and nanites are going to ****.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
271
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Posted - 2014.08.08 17:12:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Zindorak wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Don't think its happening anymore... This must happen ADS are wayyy to expensive. I go through a lot of them Mommy, look! Poor people!
Im not that poor i have 27 mil
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
305
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Posted - 2014.08.08 17:23:00 -
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danie braz wrote:My OP was asking if the ISK reduction was coming. Just makes it hard for new pilots.
But imo. The regen of vehicles is too much ( armor shield ). I go one on one we a ADS and throw 5-6 volleys to nearly kill them. They go outside my range for 10-15 secs and come back. By that time my ammo and nanites are going to ****.
DS/ADS use light modules along with LAVs which mean even if you use armor and not sheilds you are still more of a hit and run, DS/ADS being meduim class vehicles gives them some flexibility but unlike tanks their modules arn`t built for take the hits hold your ground, 10-15 seconds is enough in GT also to note their are skill that speed up sheilds reaction time along with a ton of other passive skills that make single roled pilot advantages that are effective if used into combat. this is also why some good pilots get shot down because the load-outs just don`t match up well (which is good). |
Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing
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DaNizzle4shizle
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
891
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5698
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:29:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought.
good point. and after all scouts fittings cost half a million we might as well make ADS have 400 total EHP and be vulnerable to absolutely every weapon out there.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:danie braz wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing Seriously 2000m!? At one point the missile installation did damage to the mcc. The mcc flew around too. Yeah I remember the mcc moving because I was around for that but when were the missle installations doing damage to the mcc? This is the first time I heard it.
it happened in mordus private trials which was a couple months after skirm 1.0
i rememeber because i would get pissed at my gunners and they would reply, "But i'm getting WP"
also there was a guy famous for repping the MCC with a dropship
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:55:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. An Incubus will tear you down in no time. If 500 shields is that big of a deal to people... Damn.
I just got out a game and lost 1500 shield to a small blaster turrent on a standard ADS imagine what the skill will do to pythons plus the buff? people need to stfu and stop specing into the FG and SL and get some damn vehicle command points
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
Dark Taboo
47
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Posted - 2014.08.09 01:57:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:danie braz wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing Seriously 2000m!? At one point the missile installation did damage to the mcc. The mcc flew around too. Yeah I remember the mcc moving because I was around for that but when were the missle installations doing damage to the mcc? This is the first time I heard it. it happened in mordus private trials which was a couple months after skirm 1.0 i rememeber because i would get pissed at my gunners and they would reply, "But i'm getting WP" also there was a guy famous for repping the MCC with a dropship
lol so unfair to rep your mcc... wait never nind that because if player want to stay off field and be productive then bring back logi vehicules. that way most people can get off snipers d***s and let the real snipers look for good vantage points all the while let extras go heal the mcc..
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:03:00 -
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Quote:
lol so unfair to rep your mcc... wait never nind that because if player want to stay off field and be productive then bring back logi vehicules. that way most people can get off snipers d***s and let the real snipers look for good vantage points all the while let extras go heal the mcc..
wow bro don't kill the messenger.. besides repping MCC is not coming back anyway.
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AFKing since 2012
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
Dark Taboo
51
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:57:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Quote:
lol so unfair to rep your mcc... wait never mind that because if player want to stay off field and be productive then bring back logi vehicles. that way most people can get off snipers d***s and let the real snipers look for good vantage points all the while let extras go heal the mcc..
wow bro don't kill the messenger.. besides repping MCC is not coming back anyway.
I'm saying anything hostile towards you.  I'm just saying if this happened it could help all parties considering some of the haters of snipers, ADS pilots always saying that if you want to counter an ADS without having to sync or coordinate forge and swarm shots just to kill ONE ADS to learn and pilot your own and practice your Incubus DS ramming...
As said b***h or fake snipers might just switch all together to go turn to some other FOTM or crutch or cope out in the game leaving real snipers to show how the job truly should done in the field.
I hope people get offended since we all know that those that get offended, offend the so called "offender" even if it was just taken the wrong way.. 
Rant mode and i'm sorry if it came off the wrong way to you. to
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
160
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:09:00 -
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If they do it... "Ooooh happy daaaaaayyyy!!!" <3
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
48
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:19:00 -
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Yes.
Logistics ak.0
ADS Pilot
PSN: Riptalis
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
754
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Posted - 2014.08.10 13:55:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:reading the comments I`m going to repeat the issues on both sides to make a point:
issue 1: KDR of 30/0
isseu 2: ADS are expensive
issue 3: Python vs Incumbus (with a railgun that makes sense though since Python are sheild based and railguns are AV with a slight +to sheilds).
ADS needs to be cheapened so they could be used more oftenly and AV need to take them down easily. AV (AS A ROLE) that means they get as much chances to be used as a role as a dropship pilot THEY ARE BOTH ROLES no more "oh a vehicle, wheres a depot I need to switch for a few moments" or a "well I lost to much cash gonna have to use starter fits for a few battles" would you play a logi only when a depot was close and some one was downed? with the combonation of both AV shooting down ADS/DS and getting more vehcile encounters they fluorish as a role and get the deserved SP returns while ADS get to be played as a role (becuse it is one).
issues to get through:
pilots biggest issue are the dumb stuff like bolases, magnitism to street lights, landing gear etc, thoose aren`t going to get fixed anytime soon and with AV suggesting to be stronger above the cash drop is important but another issue is, how effective is the AV, I want AV don`t get me wrong but not to the point where a ADS can`t do its job either, if instead of boosting AV and G2A only AV would be a good salution since it makes AV able to take down ADS/DS as a tool to a role without boosting all AV (which to note couses problems to other vehicles everytime) while thoose fonny AV can puch back ADS but not effectivly so ADS can get it good enough.
so that means: new suggested G2A AV weapon super effective against ADS/DS to allow: ADS/DA to be used offtenly, to be killed offtenly, to be usefull often enough, both roles are happy and both roles are roles, no more non-sense.
AV does tear apart dropships but when people use swarms (-20 shields/+20) armor against shield dropships who have natural extra 20% resistance to missiles (I think) they are going to have a tough time. It's like facing a tanked amarr sentinel with a ScR or tanked caldari heavy with a rail rifle. ( I know it's a bad example because most armor damaging weapons still rip shields like crazy and are OP).
Also, railguns are suppose to do more damage to armor than shield.
Litrally a militia swarmer can chase away an assault dropships for the whole match. My Ishukone forgegun can down an assault dropships no problem.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2678
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:09:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:when people use swarms (-20 shields/+20) armor against shield dropships who have natural extra 20% resistance to missiles (I think)
The only damage multiplier for swarms of all types against shield dropships is 0.8. This applies to all dropship shields. No dropships has a 0.6 multiplier against shields.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
754
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:11:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:when people use swarms (-20 shields/+20) armor against shield dropships who have natural extra 20% resistance to missiles (I think) The only damage multiplier for swarms of all types against shield dropships is 0.8. This applies to all dropship shields. No dropships has a 0.6 multiplier against shields.
So they fixed it?
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2678
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Posted - 2014.08.10 15:08:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:So they fixed it?
A while ago, yes.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1034
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:41:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:500 shields will have minimal effect on survivability. Yes. and no. here is a chart for the python builds in bravo compared to Charlie. Pythons will take 1 more Hit to kill., however the hardened Python will gain more than other builds. BUT this is balanced by the engagement window of the hardener. It may be too much. Im watching it closely and will make sure CCP know ASAP if its OP. EDIT: chart link updated to correct URL
What is strange to me is that the Python is the only bird I find difficult to kill. All the others seemed to need the buff. I only know the story from an AV perspective but it seems off to me. I also don't know why there is no price change, that was widely asked for from all sides.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1034
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:46:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:When getting insta ganked by multiple installatons from 2000m away 500 hp is nothing Seriously 2000m!?
Installation ranges were changed as well, no more 2000 or 5000 or 1,000,000 meter hits.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1034
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:49:00 -
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danie braz wrote:My OP was asking if the ISK reduction was coming. Just makes it hard for new pilots.
But imo. The regen of vehicles is too much ( armor shield ). I go one on one we a ADS and throw 5-6 volleys to nearly kill them. They go outside my range for 10-15 secs and come back. By that time my ammo and nanites are going to ****.
Swarm ammo is increased which is going to change that dynamic.
Because, that's why.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
909
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Posted - 2014.08.10 19:51:00 -
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upside down poster wrote:-Ö+¦¦¥d+ɦ¥+Ñ+ö -çߦëq +É ¦âuߦ릥q +Ñ-çߦë-ì op plno+ö -Ħ¥+Ñ-ç
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Maybe but the ADS is a medium airframe and you are comparing it to a heavy ground frame.
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Lanius Pulvis
Evzones
351
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Posted - 2014.08.12 11:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Lanius Pulvis wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:danie braz wrote:Let's talk about it..... Lets just NOT talk about it.Freaking ADS can wreak 30-0 in a game they should cost more... BTW i now have a ADS pilot Character in training. Cal ADS rocks. Good point, I guess all the proto scouts I see going 40+ and 0 should pay half a million ISK for every fitting as well...or maybe we don't try to justify price according to KDR...just a thought. good point. and after all scouts fittings cost half a million we might as well make ADS have 400 total EHP and be vulnerable to absolutely every weapon out there.
Oh, and give the ADS a cloak and make them almost unscannable and silent, ok, where do I sign the petition! I'll be a flying scout, just what I've always wanted. Thanks for the suggestions.
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