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The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3850	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:39:00 - [1] - Quote The patchnotes just got dropped like a bomb and im happy to see that we are getting 3 times more LP which means i can actually make complete fits from the FW store without running tons of matches in a row. You'll see alot more people going after that cause all the gear requires less skills to use and some of it have better fitting. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12655	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:42:00 - [2] - Quote This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8954	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:51:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Also https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169519&find=unread I hope you don't plan on buying anything but prototype light weapons and prototype dropsuits. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12655	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:51:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Also https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169519&find=unread I hope you don't plan on buying anything but prototype light weapons and prototype dropsuits. I might buy the Plates and Reppers....... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Mr Hakyou 65	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:54:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Hotfix Charlie
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12655	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:02:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Hakyou wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Yes but its not even about lore or equipment...... Its about the loyalty aspect. You shouldnt be able to buy anything from the loyalty stores without significant investment of time and effort into a faction... Its a model like this that wholly undermines the premise of FW and bring Dusts farmer culture to whole new levels of scrubbiness..... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5656	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:55:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. I'd like for Milita status to be added, but only if the open marketplace is added at the same time, which will likely never happen. I'm free! /o/
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 726	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:03:00 - [8] - Quote Ah, can't wait to download DUST again. Been waiting for Charlie and it should be here next week, right? It's been a month and I've been having dreams... FW here I come! "Your forefathers fought alongside the Empire, it is your choice to follow them or not." Captain Dante to "Forever".
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3814	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:12:00 - [9] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Ah, can't wait to download DUST again. Been waiting for Charlie and it should be here next week, right? It's been a month and I've been having dreams... FW here I come! Someone give this man a nanite injector he's low on high (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12658	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:22:00 - [10] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Ah, can't wait to download DUST again. Been waiting for Charlie and it should be here next week, right? It's been a month and I've been having dreams... FW here I come! Nice to see you comming back mate. I'll try to have some weekend FW events running over the next month or so. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1878	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:28:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. UMADBRO? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12660	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:30:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. UMADBRO? Very...... and also very disappointed...... but kind of okay with the 3x LP bonuses....... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 176	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:01:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. yeah i play all 4 now to load up my master monster logi fit = proto min logi gal ar cal needle cal hive amarr uplink min rep tool beast
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12664	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:11:00 - [14] - Quote hold that wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. yeah i play all 4 now to load up my master monster logi fit = proto min logi gal ar cal needle cal hive amarr uplink min rep tool beast And you should not be able to do that. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 994	Posted - 2014.08.07 07:31:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: hold that wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. yeah i play all 4 now to load up my master monster logi fit = proto min logi gal ar cal needle cal hive amarr uplink min rep tool beast And you should not be able to do that. I get that you want that, but it will just be another backlash at the logistics players. No matter how you look at it, a good logi uses all equipment. Maybe one day CCP will figure out the support role . Look at some equipment from the LP store with the normal market, link it to the crap racial logi bonuses...every logi should get all LP equipment
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4476	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:14:00 - [16] - Quote I finally have a reason to use my 8, 30 day minmatar FW boosters :P Or my 5, 30 day Amarr FW boosters. I hope people actually start playing FW again after this. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 310	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:15:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ***** ridiculous. really... they got rid of ***** standings?! I'm SO done with this game it's not even funny now =/

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5175	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:10:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mr Hakyou wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Yes but its not even about lore or equipment...... Its about the loyalty aspect. You shouldnt be able to buy anything from the loyalty stores without significant investment of time and effort into a faction... Its a model like this that wholly undermines the premise of FW and bring Dusts farmer culture to whole new levels of scrubbiness..... Can you elaborate, there are obviously lots of feelings involved but I don't get the exact point. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15626	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:13:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mr Hakyou wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Yes but its not even about lore or equipment...... Its about the loyalty aspect. You shouldnt be able to buy anything from the loyalty stores without significant investment of time and effort into a faction... Its a model like this that wholly undermines the premise of FW and bring Dusts farmer culture to whole new levels of scrubbiness..... Can you elaborate, there are obviously lots of feelings involved but I don't get the exact point. As I understand it True and a small handful of others feel that you should have to commit to factions more, akin to how you have to sign into the militia in EVE. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1799	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:14:00 - [20] - Quote They are saying if you focus on amarr the Minmatar should refuse to accept you. Or at least lower your FW standing tillyar're buck to should refuse to accept you. Or at least lower your FW standing tillyar're back to level 1

medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 888	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:22:00 - [21] - Quote Too bad faction warfare takes forever to participate in. Medium frame EHP is not medium
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 40	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:23:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mr Hakyou wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Yes but its not even about lore or equipment...... Its about the loyalty aspect. You shouldnt be able to buy anything from the loyalty stores without significant investment of time and effort into a faction... Its a model like this that wholly undermines the premise of FW and bring Dusts farmer culture to whole new levels of scrubbiness..... Can you elaborate, there are obviously lots of feelings involved but I don't get the exact point. He like many of the Amarr loyalists in this game is disappointed with the incredible lack of content the Amarr have in this game. Two rifles, One pistol, Four suits, No vehicles, No turrets, No heavy weapons, No AV weapons, One equipment, an underwhelming LP store. These aren't things that you can necessarily fix, but 1.8's "racial parity achieved" rings particularly hollow when some races are starving for content. I understand that most of the devs have been pulled to work on legion, but if you are ever in a meeting with them, please, please bring up patching dust with whatever weapons / vehicles / maps they have so there's some actual live play data. A large portion of the playerbases problem with CCP is their constant 'dropping' of projects after introduction, leaving the playerbase with stuff that is unfinished, buggy, or quite clearly broken - something that the current dev team in eve has spent two years trying to fix (and they've barely scratched the surface). Current examples in dust include dropship skill stacking and the current state of the amarr scout (plenty of feedback was given before the patch ever went live and it was ignored) I heard that the World of Darkness game hit alpha three(four?) separate times but was repeatedly scrapped by management. You've done a lot better in actually listening to the playerbase, but ultimately we're still left with a half-finished game that's in desperate need of actual content.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 40	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:27:00 - [23] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Too bad faction warfare takes forever to participate in. That's a symptom, not the problem itself. The actual problem has several layers : 1) The LP payouts are kind of terrible (this is getting a bit better) and losses mean you've wasted your time 2) The LP store is disproportionately expensive compared to isk and severely lacking in content and 3) Faction warfare is only really easy to win if you're either fighting nobodies, or you've got a minimum of two squads (containing four people each). Treat the problems, not the symptom.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12681	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:47:00 - [24] - Quote RKKR wrote: True Adamance wrote: hold that wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. yeah i play all 4 now to load up my master monster logi fit = proto min logi gal ar cal needle cal hive amarr uplink min rep tool beast And you should not be able to do that. I get that you want that, but it will just be another backlash at the logistics players. No matter how you look at it, a good logi uses all equipment. Maybe one day CCP will figure out the support role . Look at some equipment from the LP store with the normal market, link it to the crap racial logi bonuses...every logi should get all LP equipment Just because you are a logi does not give you the permission to be disloyal to every faction. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12681	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:52:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mr Hakyou wrote: True Adamance wrote: This is all well and good.... but the fact that Standing and Militia status is not in the game just means it lacks any real meaning.....when one player can run 100 Min FW matches then go Amarr for another to get Uplinks....... to be used against the Amarr...... its ******* ridiculous. Yeah... but for some people it's more about the equipment. I'm not sure what Militia status means, but if it means that if you play for the opposing side then you lose about 200 standings for the other side, then I'm all for that. Yes but its not even about lore or equipment...... Its about the loyalty aspect. You shouldnt be able to buy anything from the loyalty stores without significant investment of time and effort into a faction... Its a model like this that wholly undermines the premise of FW and bring Dusts farmer culture to whole new levels of scrubbiness..... Can you elaborate, there are obviously lots of feelings involved but I don't get the exact point. My point is that Factional Warfare is about loyalty, hence why you primary rewards are loyalty points. However those loyal actions for one faction affects the others perception of you. I do not feel that it makes any sense by any stretch of the imagination that a Faction organisation like the Imperial Guard would take on a mercenary with such ease as simply..... by toggling a button or selection option. It seems to me not enough emphasis is on being loyal.... players are just going to farm whatever they want....which in my mind wholly undermines the purpose of FW....and in Dust, unlike EVE we simply don't have to care because our actions have no consequences. Don't get me wrong I love the Lore and FW..... its why I play this game..... but I am one of few who either show loyalty.....or restrict myself in a specific way so as to enjoy the significance of FW. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12681	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:59:00 - [26] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: They are saying if you focus on amarr the Minmatar should refuse to accept you. Or at least lower your FW standing tillyar're buck to should refuse to accept you. Or at least lower your FW standing tillyar're back to level 1 Something like that...... I understand the premise that we are simple mercenaries...... but we have Public Contracts for "not caring" we should feel invested in the success of the Militia and the Faction we represent..... Our loyalty in this sense should not be as insignificant as "oh lookie here I need Nanite Injectors..... or maybe I should go for the Uplinks first.... once those are done I'll need those Gallente Tanks, and maybe then the rep tools...." I fear the emphasis in terms of meta is going to shift away from an "I fight for this Faction" Mindset and be subject to the Farmer Culture EVE FW suffers from. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5177	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:05:00 - [27] - Quote What was the thing about Militia and Standard Standings? Honestly, I haven't played FW in a long time, but isn't there a decrease in standings by playing for the other Factions. It should and it's something we can take a look at, if there is a fixed amount setting or a %. Extra content, you probably know as well as I do that we don't have it. We can add new LP items, but we need to see FW participation numbers go up to make it worth our time. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 994	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:06:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Just because you are a logi does not give you the permission to be disloyal to every faction. Toddler-level: Just because you want loyalty does not give you permission to make logi even more sucky compared to other classes. There is nothing wrong with a loyalty system, but not at this point. Imagine if there is a loyalty system: Every race has gun variants. Everyone can shoot with LP gear. Every race has suit variants. Everyone can run a suit with LP gear. Not every race has the same equipment variants. Not every logi can fulfill a support role with LP gear. Unless you want to claim that you can fulfill a good support role with only racial equipment? Nothing wrong with a loyalty system, but equipment/support role needs a (finally) overhaul if that's going to happen.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3691	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:13:00 - [29] - Quote Not really There is really no incentive to stick with one side and even then the best gear is just proto with a diff skin In EVE you can get a Caldari Navy Raven which is better than the standard Raven, in DUST you have nothing like that, you are basically playing for a discout and extra skin
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15627	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:21:00 - [30] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Not really There is really no incentive to stick with one side and even then the best gear is just proto with a diff skin In EVE you can get a Caldari Navy Raven which is better than the standard Raven, in DUST you have nothing like that, you are basically playing for a discout and extra skin Actually, there's Specialist gear that you can get with reduced fitting requirements. They're better than other weapons in that way. Also, the equipment is, in some cases, superior to ISK variants. You're quite right in saying there's little point in sticking with one side though. You can maintain standings at a net gain by playing the opposite sides alternatively. I know someone who has both Cal and Gal to standings 6. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.



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