Oh dear god, someone gives an idea of balance and everyone comes up with bullshit sci-fi answers of why it shouldn't happen... It's a feckin game, it should have a damn limit same as injectors... Nanohives and spawn points have this and no ones saying "oh but solar energy."

So much stupid, it's no wonder this game is terrible with such a community.

Do you want to break logis even more

Balance, meaning that the person who gives up killing people (let alone defending themselves) for the sake of making someone else around twice as strong as they were. I.E. combining two people into one. Now question, how many average people can a person that is twice as strong as an average person take on? If you said two then "you a stupid ho" and need to think about were you went wrong IQ wise. God forbid the heavy and logi talk to each other. Please CCP, when a logi is repairing a heavy please disable comms between them,, it's too OP.

People whining all "oh golly gee, for some reason I can't do the same thing I do to take down a single person to take down that heavy being repped, I think I'll try it another 5-20 times and if that doesn't work I'm going to ***** on the forums." Have you ever considered 1)pushing a different point 2) waiting for back up 3) rallying your squad to push the point as a whole 4) softening the target before trying to solo two people (a heavy being repped counts as two people) 5) killing the logi (I am generally a ***** to kill so good luck with that) 6) Wait for an opportunity when the logi isn't repping the heavy (not all of us are pieces of crap that will literally keep the repair tool on the heavy 24/7 there is other stuff that needs to be done so attack while we are doing said other stuff, I just try to be there when there is fighting) 7) sack up get BETTER and actually join a SQUAD or a CORP and roll with people that you have synergy with instead of whining that it is too hard to solo two people that have for all intents and purposes combined into one.

Do things need changed a bit yes, but since the "true logi" community is so small we won't be seeing any changes for a long time if ever.

In many ways this is exactly my point, there are so many nerf cries about support play in Dust, while when it is compared to other games with meaningful 'non-slayer' roles (such as reps, eWar, etc) the current state of support in Dust is pretty laughable. Even without comparing it to any other game the current state of support play in Dust is painful because of the higher burden of front end SP investment and the higher than average cost in the risk vs reward paradigm (when contrasted with other classes/fits like the Assault or Heavy). Then to top it off there are quite a few caps - which lack any meaningful UI feedback - effecting earnings and the WP scaling internal to the EQ line has been flawed since closed beta and all on a suit that when run for its intended support role is the lease survivable in the game (yes light suits have lower HP pools, but they have better eWar and mobility).

I could go on, there's a lot more to point out, but simply put support play is already contextually in a very poor state, nerfing it even more is functionally akin to saying 'hey, why don't we just take it out of the game' and at this stage of development it is my firm oppinnion that the last thing Dust needs is to start cutting out even more content (personally I'd rather see it go the other direction and get more content into the game).

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PS ~ Thaddeus this isn't directed specifically at you, it's for the thread generally, your quote simply serves to illustrate some of what I'm saying so I've included it. o7

Because their is no reason to nerf it, your entire complaint stems from one guy 'purposefully' taking damage so his logi can get extra 25wp towards and orbital.

Which is having its WP requirement doubled!
Furthermore there is already a WP/minute cap to stop people from spamming nanohives and uplinks for more WP, if that logi is having to heal people purposefully damage themseleves for WP, he's not doing his job as a logi properly amd he would probably have a lot more WP if he did.
So your problem is actually something more subtle and it's because you don't like loosing your heavy to another heavy with a guy who's repping him constantly.

The reason you are getting Sci-fi answeres is because you based your reason for a nerf on the Repair gun as it being incapable of having an infinte supply which have been explained to you. It even explains it in the items description!

It's called teamwork, instead trying to nerf teamwork because you can't kill it with a gun, use some teamwork of your own.

A false statement.
Scouts have the highest SP requirement. Most people don't understand this because they swapped suits from the 1.8 Dropsuit Command refund and already had their core skills and EQ skills when they did it.

It's also false that support frames are squishy. My Logistics gk.0 has all proto EQ and over one-thousand total HP. My Logistics ck.0 has the least HP but still boasts around 700 total HP. Maybe you're just doing it wrong.

(Especially since IWS said that we couldn't have WP scaling for higher tier nanite injectors).

I have no trouble against a logi and a heavy. I kill the logi or at least make the heavy lose his reps so I can kill him. My problem is getting bum rushed by a whole team of heavies and logis.

The worst of it is the damn squad of three logis and three heavies where everyone has 100 hp/s reps at all times... All I can do is run from that

So 1v2 you're okay but 1v6 its, "Oh noes the reptool is OP, Nerf repping CCP!! "??
Yeah. Nothing completely stupid about that.

How come your suit, shield, inertia dampener, etc never need to be recharged? Because it's a game and that would be stupid and tedious.

Why should they have infinite supply?

Logis run around following heavy suits getting free wp. Heavies will purposely take damage so the logi can get an OB

You'd think those crappy minmatar rep tools would run dry eventually

You could even let them have a limited supply but they recharge over time. So you can't just spam them forever

1 nanite would rep 10 hp and you'd get 1000 nanites or something

Why should they have infinite supply?

Logis run around following heavy suits getting free wp. Heavies will purposely take damage so the logi can get an OB

You'd think those crappy minmatar rep tools would run dry eventually

You could even let them have a limited supply but they recharge over time. So you can't just spam them forever

1 nanite would rep 10 hp and you'd get 1000 nanites or something

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It's not about breaking logis, it's about adding strategic depth to the game.
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Rep tool- the overheat idea would be great here to keep it from being spammed. I'd even like to see it's amount of hp/s increased to allow a huge increase in defense for a player being repped but only for a short time.

if a heavy is being repped, and you know you CANT kill him, then you cant shoot him either because youre just feeding wp to the logi repping him. when the heavy kills you, the logi gets wp for that too.

shoot the logi - cant always do that if the logi is skilled because hes behind cover with an extra long rep tool, or the logi is being repped by another logi. and trying to finding the source of the logi chain usually gets you killed.

so 3 logis and 3 heavies in the same squad get constant wp as the take damage and kill people. thats not balanced. the rep tool needs to overheat to keep this from continuing.

if a heavy is being repped, and you know you CANT kill him, then you cant shoot him either because youre just feeding wp to the logi repping him. when the heavy kills you, the logi gets wp for that too.

shoot the logi - cant always do that if the logi is skilled because hes behind cover with an extra long rep tool, or the logi is being repped by another logi. and trying to finding the source of the logi chain usually gets you killed.

so 3 logis and 3 heavies in the same squad get constant wp as the take damage and kill people. thats not balanced. the rep tool needs to overheat to keep this from continuing.

Yeah, sadly there's a tech side limit which prevents this