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Alldin Kan wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Dear Community

I would like to request your assistance in coming up with tips/hints that could ease our new players journey into DUST 514. Not just for brand new players, but also simple "aha, moments"

Our intent is to then use these tips, at least on the Launcher News, maybe in game News, even the first emails a player gets, newsletter, wherever it might help.

I even think some simple Lore tidbit would be fun, for example, racial fitting styles, some information on the NPC corps (I am always intrigued by the Kaalakiota, Gurista, Six Kin but they are a mystery to non-EVE players), same with Breach, Tactical etc.

Let me kick off a few, any help on this is appreciated but the community, game masters and myself are working on a solid list, and appreciate any help you can give. Basically a keyword and a little explanation, in one or two sentences. I.e.:

1) Battlefinder: Public Contracts are a great place to start for new players and old while Factional Warfare may warrant caution for less seasoned players

2) Equipment: You can equip ammo and armor replenishing Nanohives for you and your teammates

3) Weapon: The Mass Driver fires explosive rounds in an arc, much like a modern day Grenade Launcher

4) Weapon: The Laser Rifle fires a continuous beam that increases in damage over time, but overheats

5) Dropsuits: Heavy Frames are the only Dropsuits that can equip the powerful Forge Guns and Heavy Machine Guns

5) Dropsuits: Light Frames are the fastest Dropsuits

6) Dropsuits have slots for weapons, equipment, high modules, low modules and grenades. The slot layout can be very different per Dropsuit and Race.

7) Dropsuits have two types of limited energy reserves, CPU and PG. Weapons, equipment, modules, weapons and grenades use variable amounts of CPU and PG.

Thanks!

Start by increasing WP requirement to leave Academy to at least 20,000 WP and then we may talk.

no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

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Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 218	Posted - 2014.07.31 21:19:00 - [61] - Quote Upgrading- Before choosing to upgrade your weapons or equipment to a new tier check to see if your current dropsuit has enough pg/cpu. as you may need to upgrade your dropsuit first, upgrading core skills will allow for more options/survival ability for all suits. There are no respec options so think carefully- try out militia variants and fw loyalty store variants before using sp. Find your role- finding the way to play that you will enjoy is tricky but essential to becoming good at it. (if you enjoy killing with a hmg then being a scout is not for you)
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 669	Posted - 2014.08.01 00:56:00 - [62] - Quote You should always maintain some way to defend yourself from other infantry at short to medium range with your dropsuit fitting. For example, If you have only one weapon slot (logistics), it is not a good idea to equip a specialized weapon such as a sniper rifle or swarm launcher, because you cannot protect yourself if an enemy gets close to you. If you want to use these specialized support weapons, use a suit with a sidearm such as a SMG or pistol, or use a Commando dropsuit with some type of general purpose weapon as backup. I still sometimes see people wearing proto gear that cannot seem to understand this simple concept
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 215	Posted - 2014.08.01 06:56:00 - [63] - Quote Stray away from the painfully obvious tips. Anybody trying your game will already know them. Loading tips that say things like "Grenades are timed explosives that damage in a radius upon detonation!" will help no one. The grenade launcher example listed in the OP is particularly contentious because it makes reference to "real life", which is an immersion no-no. Don't want people thinking about real life grenade launchers while they're playing a scifi first person shooter. A lot of the tips listed in this thread are good. They're the ones that occupy the space between being things that everyone knows and being too specific. Things like "HAVs have weak spots that are more vulnerable to damage." are great. Maybe throw in the age-old "Don't use what you can't afford to lose" would work, although I guess Don't Buy works better considering you can't sell items in Dust anyways. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 242	Posted - 2014.08.01 11:24:00 - [64] - Quote tip for new players if you take the time to master nova knives, no one can kill better then you can. *I am death, you cannot see me, you cannot out run me, you cannot find me, but im always right behind you.* -stab-
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 222	Posted - 2014.08.01 13:41:00 - [65] - Quote "Dont play until you hit 15 Mio SP passively. Then dont skill into anything until you've read 5 different Dust Skill-Guides." But seriously: Dust is too complicated for simple Tips that are not absurd simplicities (like "grenades explode"), I think. The best (and most fun) way to learn is by trial and error. Dust, sadly, will be a series of errors for the first 3 months. So the only Tip that remains is more a word of warning (which can be a valuable tip too): "Team up with the best you can find and be willing to invest heavily in time. Dust is not intended as a Casual game. So come get some, if you dare." The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2385	Posted - 2014.08.01 13:53:00 - [66] - Quote Somewhere between the casual and hardcore gamer lies the "core" gamer. The core gamer makes up the majority of the console population and this... Hansei Kaizen wrote: Team up with the best you can find and be willing to invest heavily in time. Dust is not intended as a Casual game. So come get some, if you dare. Is going to keep them from ever playing Dust 514 after the first few post-academy public contracts. I say that as a core gamer myself. If someone had approached me with that nonsense early on I would have said fuck this game and moved on to games I can play on my own schedule. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Dingleburt Bangledack 241	Posted - 2014.08.01 15:20:00 - [67] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: 4) Weapon: The Laser Rifle fires a continuous beam that increases in damage over time, but overheats Someone may have already pointed it out, but you'll definitely want to mention the fact that the laser rifle's damage decreases as you get closer to your target (starting at 80-90 meters, I think? Maybe even shorter. I can't remember). The number of new players that have ran towards me firing their laser rifle at less than 20 meters is just staggering. I've tried to help them individually by sending them mail about how the LR works, but one measly clone can only do so much...
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 922	Posted - 2014.08.01 15:54:00 - [68] - Quote Oh also, list how to detonate a single RE in the description. I've been asked that question thousands of times. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 1487	Posted - 2014.08.01 16:10:00 - [69] - Quote ^ You have been asked that a thousand times and yet you don't say how? That doesn't help anyone. Here is another: Sign up for the dust newsletter to get free stuff! @ https://dust514.com/user/ My Youtube Biomassed Podcast
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 922	Posted - 2014.08.01 16:21:00 - [70] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: ^ You have been asked that a thousand times and yet you don't say how? That doesn't help anyone. Here is another: Sign up for the dust newsletter to get free stuff! @ https://dust514.com/user/ This isn't the Rookie Forums where I've answered it many times, so I didn't expect to have to explain it to a game developer. But if it satisfies your holiness, I'll edit my post. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.

Jadd Hatchen Kinda New here 637	Posted - 2014.08.01 19:05:00 - [71] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Eve time is in UTC It has to be in some time now doesn't it? Here's the definition: Quote: UTC Coordinated Universal Time UTC is the time standard commonly used across the world since 1972. It is used to synchronize time across internet networks. It is also used by meteorologists and the aviation industry, and is informally known as Zulu Time to avoid confusion about time zones and daylight saving time.
Iron Toast Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.08.01 19:21:00 - [72] - Quote As a new player (who loves the game btw) it's taken me about 2 months and 3.6M SP (ADS) + 2.0M SP (Try all light and heavy weapons) + 1.4M SP (Amarr Assault) just to figure out how I like to play, how to kill most things at least occasionally (I still cannot solo kill a Sentinel with a rifle!!!), and how to die a lot. I really wanted to be my vision of an assault, which was to burst through a door guns blazing... and died a lot trying in medium suits. I now mostly run militia and standard Minmatar and Caldari light suits with some heavy suits for extra eHP in certain situations. Some things I've learned: Every suit / vehicle has something that is good at killing it. Everything is very good at killing militia suits - particularly those that are alone. Don't stop moving. Strafe - show video of effective strafe techniques. Hide behind cover. Peek out to shoot. Find your next piece of cover and run to it - yes, even if there isn't anyone there. Sentinels should be considered invulnerable to your rifle. Turn around. Do it again. Tacnet is only effective on light suits. HAVs, LAVs, and other drop suits will sneak up on you. Turn around and look. Listen - if you hear a vehicle and it's not on tacnet it's the enemy. Get a mic, it's really worth it. In ambush always bleed out - think about how you were killed - if the spawn was camped wait a little before spawning in again. Setting your ADS sensitivity to 0 can help you learn to aim if you have trouble targeting. Turn it up in increments of 5 when you are successfully targeting enemy clones. Faction warfare earns loyalty points that allow you to obtain better gear that has lower skill requirements. Watching videos of good players is much more helpful than reading tactics for me. Link videos from very good players showing how to effectively use each weapon (Destructive data mining winners?), how to drive vehicles, etc. Make finding people easier. Maybe have a few public channels that are pre-set-up with different themes? Possibly Corp recruitment and Instruction. I have found a few people to play with, but this requires a significant bit of time that I'd rather spend playing. Many of the squad finder listings have names that put me off. Award WP or some other bonus for adding squad-less people in a game. Or automatically create squads of the squad-less. Anything to make it easier to be a team. Thoughts on battle academy: I went through 3 times and the 2nd two times I tried not to earn WP. I practiced flying. I practiced aiming at heads. I practiced strafing. The tutorials should be spaced out a little more. Run several battles - earn X WP or kill Y clones. Create a fitting with a new weapon and dropsuit type. Add a tutorial on running a squad and using the squad commands. Add other achievements (even in a suggested text list with no rewards: Kill X clones with Y gun. Have X clones spawn from your uplink. Earn X WP from triage. Revive and fully repair the armor on X clones (requires 2 equip slots). Kill X cloaked clones (may not be many cloaks in battle academy). Land a dropship on top of a building. Land a dropship on a clone. Run over X clones with a LAV. Earn X WP damaging vehicles with each AV weapon. Kill X clones with a grenade. Consider locking parts of the skill table or limiting the possible level until graduation. Possible other graduation criteria: Joined a corp. Consistently in the the top 4 spots (and/or avg > 4 K/D or 2000 WP/game over last 6 games [?? Not sure what the right numbers are, but I feel they should be relatively high to indicate that they are better than the newest starting players]). Option to enter and leave under X SP. P.S. If the star map does anything other than look cool it should say somewhere.
Guiltless D667 71	Posted - 2014.08.02 08:12:00 - [73] - Quote Weapon: Damage type descriptions A Strange Game. Crysis 514
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 135	Posted - 2014.08.02 09:08:00 - [74] - Quote have a percentage guide on rookie training grounds forums of how much each module/dropsuit are used by the community example amarr sentinel 33%, dampener 47%,cal scout 26% of community that way noobs would have an idea of what to expect and/or skill into "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot those 10 ads's made me crap my dropsuit"
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 57	Posted - 2014.08.03 13:31:00 - [75] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Dear Community I would like to request your assistance in coming up with tips/hints that could ease our new players journey into DUST 514. Not just for brand new players, but also simple "aha, moments" Our intent is to then use these tips, at least on the Launcher News, maybe in game News, even the first emails a player gets, newsletter, wherever it might help. I even think some simple Lore tidbit would be fun, for example, racial fitting styles, some information on the NPC corps (I am always intrigued by the Kaalakiota, Gurista, Six Kin but they are a mystery to non-EVE players), same with Breach, Tactical etc. Let me kick off a few, any help on this is appreciated but the community, game masters and myself are working on a solid list, and appreciate any help you can give. Basically a keyword and a little explanation, in one or two sentences. I.e.: 1) Battlefinder: Public Contracts are a great place to start for new players and old while Factional Warfare may warrant caution for less seasoned players 2) Equipment: You can equip ammo and armor replenishing Nanohives for you and your teammates 3) Weapon: The Mass Driver fires explosive rounds in an arc, much like a modern day Grenade Launcher 4) Weapon: The Laser Rifle fires a continuous beam that increases in damage over time, but overheats 5) Dropsuits: Heavy Frames are the only Dropsuits that can equip the powerful Forge Guns and Heavy Machine Guns 5) Dropsuits: Light Frames are the fastest Dropsuits 6) Dropsuits have slots for weapons, equipment, high modules, low modules and grenades. The slot layout can be very different per Dropsuit and Race. 7) Dropsuits have two types of limited energy reserves, CPU and PG. Weapons, equipment, modules, weapons and grenades use variable amounts of CPU and PG. Thanks! Start by increasing WP requirement to leave Academy to at least 20,000 WP and then we may talk. +1 no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 261	Posted - 2014.08.03 23:46:00 - [76] - Quote The nanite injector tool is the only piece of equipment which is automatically hotkeyed as long as you have it fitted. If you have it fitted, simply press 'o' (Circle) to use it, even if you are holding something else (such as a gun).
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1748	Posted - 2014.08.04 10:10:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Dear Community I would like to request your assistance in coming up with tips/hints that could ease our new players journey into DUST 514. Not just for brand new players, but also simple "aha, moments"Thanks! I have detailed notes for heavy suits. I can compile them. Is there a place to submit them or are you looking for bits and snips?
Zindorak 1.U.P 244	Posted - 2014.08.04 17:16:00 - [78] - Quote Each weapon has a specific damage type. Keep these in mind when you are going up against enemies. Explosive (Minmatar): -20% to Shields +20% damage to Armor Laser (Amarr): +20%, -20% Plasma (Gallente): +10%, -10% Rail (Caldari): -10%, +10% Projectile (Minmatar): -5%, +10% So if you are facing a Caldari Sentinel what do you use? Thats right a Plasma weapon or a Laser weapon. A cool little thing that i noticed is that the 4 different nations have weapons good against their enemy nation. i.e Gallente's Assault Rifle could slaughter a bunch of Caldari and vise versa with Caldari's Rail Rifle to kill Gallente's. Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
Jadd Hatchen Kinda New here 639	Posted - 2014.08.04 17:26:00 - [79] - Quote OK WTF!!!! I made a posting that had some really good ideas in it and even received several likes and now it's not there anymore!!! WTF CCP? Did I give away some kinda trade secrets? Did I point out something that was wrong? What is your problem with my posts? Also can you at least email me a copy of it so I can keep track of my suggestions to see if you even do them or not?
taxi bastard jihad taxi co. 185	Posted - 2014.08.04 20:51:00 - [80] - Quote For the loading screen - If you are a scrub tanker who jumps out of his tank in a heavy suit to mow down AV, you shall be destroyed by a martyr driving a LAV with RE on.

Zindorak 1.U.P 248	Posted - 2014.08.05 12:04:00 - [81] - Quote squad with some people to chat and make gameplay more fun Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 993	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:32:00 - [82] - Quote - How many people will actually read these tips? You could solve this by Implementing a sort of tutorial/training mode where a merc has to perform this these tips. (LOL, like that is going to happen) - How much can the NPE be improved while older players have a much higher ISK, skills advantage,...?
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2014.08.06 16:15:00 - [83] - Quote What I find humorous is I just did a quick search for dust videos for a project I'm cutting up. Besides them being filled with things that never came, this video actually explained way more than the first or even current tutorial system now. It actually details the whole package much more than the 'tutorial' system today, however it is incredibly outdated. When I first started, there was an in game mail that had 8 million lines of text and explained everything. I actually prefer that to today's poor tutorial implementation. Video is a good medium to get information across to your players and while still intensive, it is probably less intensive than you dedicating in game development to have an interactive tutorial. Players have been doing this for you for far too long. Since you find it difficult to keep people engaged in-game, why not include in game mails of where to go to while out of game to get newer players more information. Link to useful starter guides, videos, and FAQs. While I think having to port players to places OTHER than the game is a horrible implementation, it's what we have now and I know of far too many players that don't even know these forums/site exists. You should use this forum as a tool to educate your players more and use your front page site for ANYTHING AT ALL. I only visit it to sign up for newsletters giveaways. If I had access to your website, I would update that brochure-wear site for free and make it 100x more engaging. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 820	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:15:00 - [84] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Dear Community I would like to request your assistance in coming up with tips/hints that could ease our new players journey into DUST 514. Not just for brand new players, but also simple "aha, moments" Our intent is to then use these tips, at least on the Launcher News, maybe in game News, even the first emails a player gets, newsletter, wherever it might help. I even think some simple Lore tidbit would be fun, for example, racial fitting styles, some information on the NPC corps (I am always intrigued by the Kaalakiota, Gurista, Six Kin but they are a mystery to non-EVE players), same with Breach, Tactical etc. Let me kick off a few, any help on this is appreciated but the community, game masters and myself are working on a solid list, and appreciate any help you can give. Basically a keyword and a little explanation, in one or two sentences. I.e.: 1) Battlefinder: Public Contracts are a great place to start for new players and old while Factional Warfare may warrant caution for less seasoned players 2) Equipment: You can equip ammo and armor replenishing Nanohives for you and your teammates 3) Weapon: The Mass Driver fires explosive rounds in an arc, much like a modern day Grenade Launcher 4) Weapon: The Laser Rifle fires a continuous beam that increases in damage over time, but overheats 5) Dropsuits: Heavy Frames are the only Dropsuits that can equip the powerful Forge Guns and Heavy Machine Guns 5) Dropsuits: Light Frames are the fastest Dropsuits 6) Dropsuits have slots for weapons, equipment, high modules, low modules and grenades. The slot layout can be very different per Dropsuit and Race. 7) Dropsuits have two types of limited energy reserves, CPU and PG. Weapons, equipment, modules, weapons and grenades use variable amounts of CPU and PG. Thanks! Core Skills: Skills found under dropsuit command which affect all of your suits. ^^ VERY IMPORTANT ^^ Weapon: The laser rifle fires a continuous beam that increases in damage over time, but overheats. The laser rifle is highly proficient in shield damage while dealing reduced damage to armor. ^^Example of what a weapon description SHOULD look like.^^ These should be spammed on load screens, primarily when loading into academy battles, as well as maybe some kind of info section under updates if possible.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2014.08.10 13:26:00 - [85] - Quote Put a link to this website in the game somewhere I miss the old GAM crew :( RESPEC PLEASE After Delta CEO of GODS AMONG MEN Clone Wars forever #Starwars: Battlefront
Liftrasir Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2014.08.10 16:23:00 - [86] - Quote Proper mouse support would make this game easier for new players.
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 116	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:33:00 - [87] - Quote Sounds like an instruction manual (its about time ) Please mention that you need to train appropriate skills by buying and training the skill before you can use the types of Weapon, Suit , Module or vehicle above militia level. I know of a couple of people who moved from other fps games and without waiting for any guidance went and bought the biggest weapon and suit they could afford then found that they couldn't use them (you should have heard me laugh). This should be available in all the places you think it can go not just in one of them so its easy to refer to. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5794	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:13:00 - [88] - Quote Being a generalist with your skills may not be best for serious battles, but it allows you to adapt to any situation for a lower cost than going straight to proto. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3119	Posted - 2014.08.21 19:04:00 - [89] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Anti-Vehicle grenades will curve towards your target. Be advised: Anti-vehicle grenades will not damage dropships. lies If you have ever gotten one to actually explode against a dropship I call haxzorz. Back when they had OP homing, I was tossing them at 90 degrees and actually took down a dumb Gallente Logistics ship. LOLs soon followed.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1021	Posted - 2014.08.28 09:49:00 - [90] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: Put a link to this website in the game somewhere It's in the credits screen in the options menu. Protip:if you press up on your ds3 and see 6 people from the same corp you're about to experience what's commonly known as a pubstomp. It is advised you only run starter fits. Protip:run a basic heavy with a mlt HMG for easymode isk generation. Protip:if you are unable to stop dying to a certain weapon...go to Dust514 forums and complain about it in the appropriate forums section. Protip: skill into remote explosives to set traps for allies and enemies alike. Protip: when you seek alternative entertainment on the battlefield,press right on your ds3 and call in a LAV,running over your opponent is just as effective as shooting them... Protip: yes scouts can strafe straight through HMG fire. Protip: strapping REs on a cheap LAV and colliding with an allied vehicle in faction warfare is a secret code for free gear,it sometimes takes multiple tries to activate... particularly effective in Amarr faction warfare. Protip: seeking a certain female mercs attention? All you have to do is tea-bag her,preferably with a healthy version like oolong or green tea. (might require lemon slices and/or sugar cubes) Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.



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