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ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 12:14:00 - [1] - Quote I've seen plenty of people using Dropships to get on Roofs of buildings place a spawn beacon, Nanohives & sit there for the whole match bombarding us from the air to the ground, i've lost 4 matches today because of this, it makes the game unfair to play on any level. Their much be solutions to fix this, you can either: 1. Put a Wall barriers on the roofs 2. Put a suicidal timer on, similar when you walk out maps bounds or any of your choices.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 962	Posted - 2014.07.27 12:58:00 - [2] - Quote or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:24:00 - [3] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. Didn't you ever think i haven't skilled into one? Besides i'm not a vehicle person. What the point anyway, this game attracts CoD players that'll rather camp then PTFO, but still the game is unplayable, i can barely walk out of our base without getting Redlined, i can barely go anywhere in an Urban District without getting bombarded from above, i can barely do anything. I'm having to use Militia Starter Fits because i died so many times from Noobs that i could barely refill my Proto Class. It's really annoying, and i thought Battlefield was worst...
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 147	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:13:00 - [4] - Quote roof campers.. simple.. get dropship+missile launchers as the aoe dmg helps to rout them and pop drop uplinks.. use orbital.. or counter snipers to gib the roof campers from relatively safe areas STOP BEING LAZY! Find problem, Change Tactic, Problem solved. Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 147	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:22:00 - [5] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I've seen plenty of people using Dropships to get on Roofs of buildings place a spawn beacon, Nanohives & sit there for the whole match bombarding us from the air to the ground, i've lost 4 matches today because of this, it makes the game unfair to play on any level. Their much be solutions to fix this, you can either: 1. Put a Wall barriers on the roofs 2. Put a suicidal timer on, similar when you walk out maps bounds or any of your choices. just get in a dropship with a couple of gunners (caldari+missiles works best) or use counter-snipers, or orbitals.. its not hard at all you just gotta remain flexible and changing with the flow and pace of battle. most roof camp areas are not guaranteed win as long as some one will cap the point.. in ambush you cannot get on the roof in non vehicle one.. while in the vehicle one being on a roof is a disadvantage anyway.. the hardest one though is on that tower with the pipes overlooking A that you need a dropship to get to.. usually an orbital works but useing dropships is easier.. either use it to kill-farm them or destroy the uplinks.. or drop on the opposite side of the pipe-tower get your own uplink running and drop down and kill em.. seriously players like you are the reason Shizz is getting nerfed to hell with all the Whineing you people do.. its not supposed to be balanced its supposed to be a lite version of rock paper scissors.. like eve Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2021	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:25:00 - [6] - Quote the only problem with using ADS to take them down is that they usually are using forges so thats a no go air space. snipers, your kidding right? orbitals are pretty much the only way to go most of the time. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 962	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:25:00 - [7] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. Didn't you ever think i haven't skilled into one? Besides i'm not a vehicle person. What the point anyway, this game attracts CoD players that'll rather camp then PTFO, but still the game is unplayable, i can barely walk out of our base without getting Redlined, i can barely go anywhere in an Urban District without getting bombarded from above, i can barely do anything. I'm having to use Militia Starter Fits because i died so many times from Noobs that i could barely refill my Proto Class. It's really annoying, and i thought Battlefield was worst... ok then i can understand since your a new player. learning to fly a mlt dropship that takes no SP to get is a major thing you need to know how to do because its allows you to fly up there and kill them. you can't expect CCP to change the game around the fact that you don't want to be bothered with killing the roof top campers but want to complain about them. and join a better corp if there are not squad members helping you deal with these problems in pubs. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:54:00 - [8] - Quote I like how people say "Oh, it's easy do this and that" I've observed my team throughout every match, they didn't do crap, one and few people tried to stop them but they died quickly like squashed ants, even if you try to stop them they'll come back & you'll get killed over and over, it's an endless cycle of annoyance and waste of ISK... It's pointless unless every team member stops them (Which no one does then we failed), one teammate used OS (Orbital Strike) kill the whole team off the roof, but they still came back, i could reference them as cancer because that's what they give this game. First of all the Militia Dropship suck nuts, i've tried them myself they go down within a few shots both Gallente and Caldari variants when i was trying to flush them out. Militia Dropships are only useful when you're place spawn beacons on tops of roofs which is beginning to be a nuisance now, because when one person does it the others will follow & it'll become like a virus. Since i played DUST since Chromosome which i may say is way better than present DUST514, in terms of balanced gameplay, it was fun back then but now the game has had loads of train wrecks making it nearly unplayable. I hate to see Legion becoming like this. Now i'm not saying nerf weapons or nerfing anything, i'm just saying to find way to reduce roof campers.
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 240	Posted - 2014.07.27 15:44:00 - [9] - Quote all roof tops are either have ground acsess or alot of ground based cover, i hate being like the get good scrub people, but seriously this is basic stuff more suited to the ramblings of the general sections... Hey look a distraction!
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:10:00 - [10] - Quote X7 lion wrote: all roof tops are either have ground acsess or alot of ground based cover, i hate being like the get good scrub people, but seriously this is basic stuff more suited to the ramblings of the general sections... Question, how can anyone get good when they're being bombarded with explosives & projectiles fired from above, you can't escape it, even if you try you'll die.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1183	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:34:00 - [11] - Quote Ahh, this IS a good topic. True, getting and controlling the high point is valid tactic and a good gameplay element. That being said, IF the game degenerates in non-stop dropship assaults to the same few locations, it is redundant and bad gameplay. Many rooftops are far enough from edge hills, or too high, to be efficiently harrassed by sideline snipers/counterforgers. There are still many rooftops which can only be reached by dropship - that is one issue. Forge gun team is a beast up a tower. The reason for that is twofold: - Two forge gunners make all but the most cunning and well coordinated assaults via dropships impossible - forge sniping is way too easy (thread on that here), they do far more than just control tower as they instagib ants down below Orbital is truly the one efficient way of clearing towercamps and tactics only big weakness. However, WP requirement for Orbitals rising might encourage more camping, well have to see. The walls on roofs... They are not too well implemented, I know no person who's happy with them. Too many times people are just stuck there, with no way down or maybe even getting literally stuck in falling animation near walls. [SUGGESTIONS:] - Future architecture without flat roofs but rather A-roofs or circular domes which are too slanted for anything to stay up there? - Setting some of 'trouble' roofs as sort of slippery: even though flat it could be like ice and everything would fall down. Maybe a bit unrealistic but for gameplay purposes possibly okay. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:40:00 - [12] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Ahh, this IS a good topic. True, getting and controlling the high point is valid tactic and a good gameplay element. That being said, IF the game degenerates in non-stop dropship assaults to the same few locations, it is redundant and bad gameplay. Many rooftops are far enough from edge hills, or too high, to be efficiently harrassed by sideline snipers/counterforgers. There are still many rooftops which can only be reached by dropship - that is one issue. Forge gun team is a beast up a tower. The reason for that is twofold: - Two forge gunners make all but the most cunning and well coordinated assaults via dropships impossible - forge sniping is way too easy (thread on that here), they do far more than just control tower as they instagib ants down below Orbital is truly the one efficient way of clearing towercamps and tactics only big weakness. However, WP requirement for Orbitals rising might encourage more camping, well have to see. The walls on roofs... They are not too well implemented, I know no person who's happy with them. Too many times people are just stuck there, with no way down or maybe even getting literally stuck in falling animation near walls. [SUGGESTIONS:] - Future architecture without flat roofs but rather A-roofs or circular domes which are too slanted for anything to stay up there? - Setting some of 'trouble' roofs as sort of slippery: even though flat it could be like ice and everything would fall down. Maybe a bit unrealistic but for gameplay purposes possibly okay. Very Informative thread, thanks
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2024	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:50:00 - [13] - Quote X7 lion wrote: all roof tops are either have ground acsess or alot of ground based cover, i hate being like the get good scrub people, but seriously this is basic stuff more suited to the ramblings of the general sections... lol... ground based cover. thats why people go to the towers. to defeat ground base cover with ease. the only ground based cover from a top down attack in dust is inside buildings. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 148	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:50:00 - [14] - Quote you whiners are pathetic.. snipers can shoot at players and farm kills, yes they cant shoot the drop uplinks but they will be doing their role.. dropships.. can do straifing run or drop off a Leeroy with flux nades to explode equipment im sad to see so many COD-fags who dont know how to THINK in this game which rewards THINKING and strategy and positioning.. you all make me sick. simple solution could be adding ladders like they did on that one map that has the 3 tall buildings overlooking the cap point but to remove access to roof camping is just the whiners whining for the sake of whining (aka tears be delicious) Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 148	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:56:00 - [15] - Quote ladwar wrote: X7 lion wrote: all roof tops are either have ground acsess or alot of ground based cover, i hate being like the get good scrub people, but seriously this is basic stuff more suited to the ramblings of the general sections... lol... ground based cover. thats why people go to the towers. to defeat ground base cover with ease. the only ground based cover from a top down attack in dust is inside buildings. indeed and there is one single cap point map i recall with 3 or 4 medium hight buildings around it but on that map being on the roof is a drawback as you can only win if you get inside the building to cap it.. most of the time the defenders will get a yolo dropship to strafe the roofs with the uplinks on and cause a loss of time/MCC hp for attackers.. ground based uplinks are not viable as defenders will also use tanks.. so the only way to keep in the fight and even so not have a chance to win is on the roofs. TL;DR.. roofs have both pros and cons.. leave they as they are!. but do address uplinks on the stupidly high places like the massive towers with the steep sloped bit snipers usually like to derp on.. but costs the wasteing of 1 dropship to get there as you cannot land on them Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 148	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:57:00 - [16] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Ahh, this IS a good topic. True, getting and controlling the high point is valid tactic and a good gameplay element. That being said, IF the game degenerates in non-stop dropship assaults to the same few locations, it is redundant and bad gameplay. Many rooftops are far enough from edge hills, or too high, to be efficiently harrassed by sideline snipers/counterforgers. There are still many rooftops which can only be reached by dropship - that is one issue. Forge gun team is a beast up a tower. The reason for that is twofold: - Two forge gunners make all but the most cunning and well coordinated assaults via dropships impossible - forge sniping is way too easy (thread on that here), they do far more than just control tower as they instagib ants down below Orbital is truly the one efficient way of clearing towercamps and tactics only big weakness. However, WP requirement for Orbitals rising might encourage more camping, well have to see. The walls on roofs... They are not too well implemented, I know no person who's happy with them. Too many times people are just stuck there, with no way down or maybe even getting literally stuck in falling animation near walls. [SUGGESTIONS:] - Future architecture without flat roofs but rather A-roofs or circular domes which are too slanted for anything to stay up there? - Setting some of 'trouble' roofs as sort of slippery: even though flat it could be like ice and everything would fall down. Maybe a bit unrealistic but for gameplay purposes possibly okay. forgegun teams are useless vs inf they only serve as AV.. heavys are best served on the ground with HMGs pushing/defending points cause they get points for defending if you actually use command mode Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 148	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:01:00 - [17] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. indeed, i fear a good ADS pilot with gunners clearing roofs... and spawning in as an OB is being dropped hurts my wallet too :P but thats how the game goes.. if there is a forgegunner make sure hes priority target.. if there is swarms.. back off wait your cooldowns and come in hard for a strafeing.. PLC? just laugh they arnt that good vs dropships theya re more LAV HAV weapon combat system.. or if you can.. get into a good place where you get decent view of heads of the people on the roof and get out your Thales! :P Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 20	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:04:00 - [18] - Quote I Love roof campers. Two words ,,,Sniper meat.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6743	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:07:00 - [19] - Quote This game needs more ladders. This game needs more access to roofs besides dropships. Not that there shouldn't be dropship only locations it's just there are too many. see you space cowboy...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 968	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:09:00 - [20] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Didn't you ever think i haven't skilled into one? This is who's fault ??? Besides i'm not a vehicle person. That's prob part of YOUR problem What the point anyway, this game attracts CoD players that'll rather camp then PTFO, but still the game is unplayable, i can barely walk out of our base without getting Redlined, i can barely go anywhere in an Urban District without getting bombarded from above, i can barely do anything. Because you don't like to do something about it but instead come to the forums to complain , this type of actions by players is berated and condemned but also is a ? problem ? for CCP to address ??? I'm having to use Militia Starter Fits because i died so many times from Noobs that i could barely refill my Proto Class. So your a prototype player complaining about militia players ? Says a lot about you and how you play . It's really annoying, and i thought Battlefield was worst... Again , please don't throw stones . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.

Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 206	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:26:00 - [21] - Quote Ha! Looks like i was right people. I've been pointing this exact complaint was going to start for months. Every single sniper thread is plagued nu redline criers as though thats what the problem really is! Every time i say That when our range gets nerfed you people won 't stop There because your problem is you just want everybody to spray and pray. Looks like you proved me right Thanks. Oh and the answer is Adapt and overdone!
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:39:00 - [22] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - This is who's fault ??? No Ones, because i decide i didn't want to Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - That's prob part of YOUR problem Look dude if i don't want to spec into vehicles then i don't want to. I'm more efficient on ground when there's no campers. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - Because you don't like to do something about it but instead come to the forums to complain , this type of actions by players is berated and condemned but also is a ? problem ? for CCP to address ??? In case you didn't know, i've mentioned so many times that i tried to flush them off the roof in different methods, but i guess you didn't read that part did you? & this problem is not just in Dust but other FPSs and shouldn't be encouraged as much, i understand if there's a Sniper on the roof, but a bunch of dudes with Mass Drivers, Flylocks, Forge Guns, Grenades and other light weapons, bombarding infantry from the air isn't fair in anyway. I'm more of a chivalry player, i play fair than most people would do so, but for those that don't have any understanding of the situation are arrogant and not willing to fix it because it benefits them. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - So your a prototype player complaining about militia players ? Says a lot about you and how you play . Where did i say i'm being killed by militia players? Majority are using Advance & Proto Suits, with Mass Drivers, Flylocks, Grenades, Forge Gun etc And i barely use Proto suits now considering my ISK is nearly broke. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - Again , please don't throw stones . Who's throwing stones? you're making stupid allegations...
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1185	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:22:00 - [23] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Ahh, this IS a good topic. True, getting and controlling the high point is valid tactic and a good gameplay element. That being said, IF the game degenerates in non-stop dropship assaults to the same few locations, it is redundant and bad gameplay. Many rooftops are far enough from edge hills, or too high, to be efficiently harrassed by sideline snipers/counterforgers. There are still many rooftops which can only be reached by dropship - that is one issue. Forge gun team is a beast up a tower. The reason for that is twofold: - Two forge gunners make all but the most cunning and well coordinated assaults via dropships impossible - forge sniping is way too easy (thread on that here), they do far more than just control tower as they instagib ants down below Orbital is truly the one efficient way of clearing towercamps and tactics only big weakness. However, WP requirement for Orbitals rising might encourage more camping, well have to see. The walls on roofs... They are not too well implemented, I know no person who's happy with them. Too many times people are just stuck there, with no way down or maybe even getting literally stuck in falling animation near walls. [SUGGESTIONS:] - Future architecture without flat roofs but rather A-roofs or circular domes which are too slanted for anything to stay up there? - Setting some of 'trouble' roofs as sort of slippery: even though flat it could be like ice and everything would fall down. Maybe a bit unrealistic but for gameplay purposes possibly okay. forgegun teams are useless vs inf they only serve as AV.. heavys are best served on the ground with HMGs pushing/defending points cause they get points for defending if you actually use command mode On forge being av only: Sorry pal you are dead wrong. Forge gun is like a finger of god from above. Good forgers rack kills - provided they have targets - over 10 per minute rate. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 403	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:24:00 - [24] - Quote Get a squad. You can't stop roof campers, it's a style of play. My question, if it's so easy to shoot down dropships, then explain why you can't get a militia forge gun and take them down before they come back? If you hate roof campers, then maybe you should take the roof from them. Watch how they try to take the roof back. if they succeed, then you do it next time for reference. A smart enemy is his own worst foe, because he will teach you every time he beats you :) From the Clone Wars I came. Here I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 969	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:46:00 - [25] - Quote just join a better corp and squad up with the corps top ADS guy that way you are free to do your running and gunning and he will keep the roofs and high ground clear for you. in PC its a constant battle for the high ground and there are many tactics for clearing and holding the high ground. my favorite tactic in a pub by myself is spawn way back n my ground spawn in a heavy suit with a HMG and flux nads get in a mlt dropship with a afterburner and go low and to the side so they don't see you comeing then hit the afterburner to get high above them to ninja free fall right behind them and let the HMG rip and flux the uplinks. but if you don't want to do it put people in your squad that will do it for you. me personaly i love clearing out campers and ill do that **** all game if i have to then when i do ill stay up there with a breach forge gun and blap there dropship when they come back. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 154	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:52:00 - [26] - Quote S-PANZA wrote: I Love roof campers. Two words ,,,Sniper meat. exactly :P its the only time i like snipers as it feeds me WPs with them useing my uplinks and feeds you with kills :P Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 154	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:53:00 - [27] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Ahh, this IS a good topic. True, getting and controlling the high point is valid tactic and a good gameplay element. That being said, IF the game degenerates in non-stop dropship assaults to the same few locations, it is redundant and bad gameplay. Many rooftops are far enough from edge hills, or too high, to be efficiently harrassed by sideline snipers/counterforgers. There are still many rooftops which can only be reached by dropship - that is one issue. Forge gun team is a beast up a tower. The reason for that is twofold: - Two forge gunners make all but the most cunning and well coordinated assaults via dropships impossible - forge sniping is way too easy (thread on that here), they do far more than just control tower as they instagib ants down below Orbital is truly the one efficient way of clearing towercamps and tactics only big weakness. However, WP requirement for Orbitals rising might encourage more camping, well have to see. The walls on roofs... They are not too well implemented, I know no person who's happy with them. Too many times people are just stuck there, with no way down or maybe even getting literally stuck in falling animation near walls. [SUGGESTIONS:] - Future architecture without flat roofs but rather A-roofs or circular domes which are too slanted for anything to stay up there? - Setting some of 'trouble' roofs as sort of slippery: even though flat it could be like ice and everything would fall down. Maybe a bit unrealistic but for gameplay purposes possibly okay. forgegun teams are useless vs inf they only serve as AV.. heavys are best served on the ground with HMGs pushing/defending points cause they get points for defending if you actually use command mode On forge being av only: Sorry pal you are dead wrong. Forge gun is like a finger of god from above. Good forgers rack kills - provided they have targets - over 10 per minute rate. they are sniper meat too casue slow movment speed == head-explody Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 154	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:57:00 - [28] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - This is who's fault ??? No Ones, because i decide i didn't want to Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - That's prob part of YOUR problem Look dude if i don't want to spec into vehicles then i don't want to. I'm more efficient on ground when there's no campers. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - Because you don't like to do something about it but instead come to the forums to complain , this type of actions by players is berated and condemned but also is a ? problem ? for CCP to address ??? In case you didn't know, i've mentioned so many times that i tried to flush them off the roof in different methods, but i guess you didn't read that part did you? & this problem is not just in Dust but other FPSs and shouldn't be encouraged as much, i understand if there's a Sniper on the roof, but a bunch of dudes with Mass Drivers, Flylocks, Forge Guns, Grenades and other light weapons, bombarding infantry from the air isn't fair in anyway. I'm more of a chivalry player, i play fair than most people would do so, but for those that don't have any understanding of the situation are arrogant and not willing to fix it because it benefits them. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - So your a prototype player complaining about militia players ? Says a lot about you and how you play . Where did i say i'm being killed by militia players? Majority are using Advance & Proto Suits, with Mass Drivers, Flylocks, Grenades, Forge Gun etc And i barely use Proto suits now considering my ISK is nearly broke. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - Again , please don't throw stones . Who's throwing stones? you're making stupid allegations... i have been seeing smart snipers useing clever non roof areas and i havnt got a clue where they are unless i happen upon them by accident or get on my scout with active scanner at like 150 range, find, kill, remember location for future referance and like meny in this ost have said.. roof campers are sniper meat.. Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1185	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:23:00 - [29] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: On forge being av only: Sorry pal you are dead wrong. Forge gun is like a finger of god from above. Good forgers rack kills - provided they have targets - over 10 per minute rate. they are sniper meat too casue slow movment speed == head-explody 3x Biomass tower are so high that snipers can't get consistent angle on them on most maps. Iron Delta's supermountain in north/south is an exeption though as it's high enough. Also, if sniping location is within forge range, sniper himself quickly gets instagibbed as heavy suits won't. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.07.28 00:20:00 - [30] - Quote Take away rooftops and you'll double redline sniping over night.

ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2024	Posted - 2014.07.28 00:58:00 - [31] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Take away rooftops and you'll double redline sniping over night. yes.... because they can't roof top snipe and then it will drop after that to near post change levels Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 696	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:30:00 - [32] - Quote Noticed the OP mentioned militia dropships die too quickly and I couldn't help but chuckle. While rooftop campers do get annoying, they're not that hard to get rid of, and when half the team is on a roof, that means half the enemy force ISN'T by the objective! Mentioning your team in that sucking isn't really a problem of the rooftop campers, it's a team problem and it sounds like you need to find a good squad to roll with to stop getting stomped. As for the dropship, let me suggest something. Gorgon fitted with- Afterburner Heavy repair unit Whatever else you can manage... Unless you've got two or three forgers on a roof, this baby will get anything done you need it to do. I'm not specced into dropships either, but I use this to get up to rooftops all the time and clear out campers. Another suggestion is to carry RE's and Flux grenades when going up. Clear out the equipment and their numbers will dwindle. Drop a few RE's, then, even if you die, you can still enact revenge upon respawing. Once more, unless you've got half the team camping on a roof, it shouldn't be a problem if you're above the average blueberry in skill, and it doesn't cost all that much Isk to clear a roof. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Zindorak 1.U.P 188	Posted - 2014.07.28 02:31:00 - [33] - Quote Lol dumb thread. Anyway go up there and greet them with an HMG. if u suck at flying get a squady to fly u up there. Damn people stop being lazy Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1994	Posted - 2014.07.28 05:00:00 - [34] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. Didn't you ever think i haven't skilled into one? Besides i'm not a vehicle person. What the point anyway, this game attracts CoD players that'll rather camp then PTFO, but still the game is unplayable, i can barely walk out of our base without getting Redlined, i can barely go anywhere in an Urban District without getting bombarded from above, i can barely do anything. I'm having to use Militia Starter Fits because i died so many times from Noobs that i could barely refill my Proto Class. It's really annoying, and i thought Battlefield was worst... If vehicles aren't your thing, skill up either the sniper rifle or the forge gun. They're quite vulnerable if you find a good position. You can also forge/snipe the uplinks if they place them poorly. Tower forgers are only an issue if you don't counter them, but can be locked down by a single player with distance and range. Knowledge is power
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1004	Posted - 2014.07.28 07:16:00 - [35] - Quote OP sounds like a player that believes pew pew is the only style of play that should be allowed. Tower camping is a valid tactic, its only valuable if you have a ground team actually doing things then the overlook can protect it. I forge gun and personally I hate being on a tower. I am just not that effective at those really long ranges. A little movement and I miss. I get sniped at constantly and everyone knows where I am. I also don't find tower campers to be that significant when I am on the ground. Rail Rifles on high ground and lower rooftops can be a real pain though. Because, that's why.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming 1232	Posted - 2014.07.28 09:54:00 - [36] - Quote Employ the same tactics I use for vehicle spamming teams Take the goddamn objectives Fewer forces that can actually take the objective? sweet. Lemme get my codebreakers "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
JACKAL ZER0 OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 19	Posted - 2014.07.30 00:56:00 - [37] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I've seen plenty of people using Dropships to get on Roofs of buildings place a spawn beacon, Nanohives & sit there for the whole match bombarding us from the air to the ground, i've lost 4 matches today because of this, it makes the game unfair to play on any level. Their much be solutions to fix this, you can either: 1. Put a Wall barriers on the roofs 2. Put a suicidal timer on, similar when you walk out maps bounds or any of your choices. Yea, stop being a ***, ***. CCP aughta bring back the roof tops from early '13, Then everyone would be shooting down on ya. Stop ur 'plainin.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 268	Posted - 2014.07.30 02:55:00 - [38] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: you whiners are pathetic.. snipers can shoot at players and farm kills, yes they cant shoot the drop uplinks but they will be doing their role.. dropships.. can do straifing run or drop off a Leeroy with flux nades to explode equipment im sad to see so many COD-fags who dont know how to THINK in this game which rewards THINKING and strategy and positioning.. you all make me sick. simple solution could be adding ladders like they did on that one map that has the 3 tall buildings overlooking the cap point but to remove access to roof camping is just the whiners whining for the sake of whining (aka tears be delicious) I love how you all make it sound so easy. But you forget that most rooftop campers come with a Forge and a Swarm. So that renders using the dropship useless. If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 193	Posted - 2014.07.30 06:28:00 - [39] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I've seen plenty of people using Dropships to get on Roofs of buildings place a spawn beacon, Nanohives & sit there for the whole match bombarding us from the air to the ground, i've lost 4 matches today because of this, it makes the game unfair to play on any level. Their much be solutions to fix this, you can either: 1. Put a Wall barriers on the roofs 2. Put a suicidal timer on, similar when you walk out maps bounds or any of your choices. i hope this is a troll post you poor lost soul I'll see you guys on Legion when the Steambox is released
Shooter Somewhere SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 0	Posted - 2014.07.30 08:29:00 - [40] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: or you could get your lazy butt in a dropship and go up there and end the problem. i have to fly up there 4 to 5 times a game to clear them out. there is a wonderful thing called a assault dropship which also can clear roof top campers. then we have OBs which work wonders to clear them out. if they can get up on the roof so can you. while yes campers are annoying i find satisfaction in flying up there in my proto heavy suit and landing behind them and massacre there whole squad then sit and wait for more campers to spawn on the uplink. OOHHHH SUUUUUUUUURE FLY A DROPSHIP UP THERE SO IT CAN JUST GET SWIPED AWAY BY PROTO FG LIKE A FLY SURRRREE OK GUYS LETS GIVE IT A TRY dumb **** roof camper HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo



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