DUST Search - CALDARI SENTINEL IS DEAD.

Cody Sietz wrote:

JRleo jr wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

S-PANZA wrote:

And it takes 6 secs for the speedy Cal Sent to get to cover, giving you a whopping 2 extra secs to destroy him. Roll

Are you pulling out in the middle of a firefight?

@JR, we are changing to a 2/3 layout.

30 reps a second isn't going to save you from a HMG or even a 400 DPS rifle.

Not to mention, you can get 20 reps a second and we can barely get 40 shield recharge a second if we use our only 2 high slots.

You can get 86 a second! With just 2 mods! You can go all the way to 126 a second with 3 mods! You can get 75 percent of our reps and we can only get about 30-40 percent of you shield repair!

And our shield hp is 600!

And your armor is over 750, and amarr will be worse with its 4 lows, now cal sents will be utter crap, 3 highs, that means our shield hp is, 600 as I said, pathetic, my assault will have over 500 shields, and faster with smaller hitbox...

And I used a 30 rep 500 or 600 armor logi, I could survive for so long if a broken hmg didn't apear.

But that's the trade off...much lower overall ehp that of an medium frame...higher overall recharge that isn't viable vs armor especially with a logi.

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5834 Caldari CK.0

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5833 Gallente GK.0 the Gallente is over his CPU and wouldn't even be able to run this fit

Oh and if you think the Amarr is going to be worst with a 1/4 layout...heh

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JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 129	Posted - 2014.07.26 03:16:00 - [61] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: S-PANZA wrote: And it takes 6 secs for the speedy Cal Sent to get to cover, giving you a whopping 2 extra secs to destroy him. Are you pulling out in the middle of a firefight? @JR, we are changing to a 2/3 layout. 30 reps a second isn't going to save you from a HMG or even a 400 DPS rifle. Not to mention, you can get 20 reps a second and we can barely get 40 shield recharge a second if we use our only 2 high slots. You can get 86 a second! With just 2 mods! You can go all the way to 126 a second with 3 mods! You can get 75 percent of our reps and we can only get about 30-40 percent of you shield repair! And our shield hp is 600! And your armor is over 750, and amarr will be worse with its 4 lows, now cal sents will be utter crap, 3 highs, that means our shield hp is, 600 as I said, pathetic, my assault will have over 500 shields, and faster with smaller hitbox... And I used a 30 rep 500 or 600 armor logi, I could survive for so long if a broken hmg didn't apear. But that's the trade off...much lower overall ehp that of an medium frame...higher overall recharge that isn't viable vs armor especially with a logi. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5834 Caldari CK.0 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5833 Gallente GK.0 the Gallente is over his CPU and wouldn't even be able to run this fit Oh and if you think the Amarr is going to be worst with a 1/4 layout...heh I meant the amarr will be better at armor tanking, if I didn't make it clear enough. Also, share your fittings. A sentinel is supposed to have a more defense than a medium frame, enough to tank more, yet, the cal sent will not, and only at proto is it somewhat viable. Look at it this way: Sure, 86 reps looks nice and decent without a logi, but with the shield hp of hf charlie cal assault, and less ehp than armor, it isn't really suited in pc exept for forging simply because the nature of less hp, no repping ability, and just the delay..I think you get it. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 19	Posted - 2014.07.26 03:25:00 - [62] - Quote Low eHP on a Sent is certain death , theyre slow and have a big hitbox. Shields dont recharge while being hit...so no matter how fast your recharge is... ... low eHP= death.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3695	Posted - 2014.07.26 03:28:00 - [63] - Quote Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share. Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr. Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 129	Posted - 2014.07.26 03:49:00 - [64] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share. Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr. Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. Saw your fitting. That doesn't count for a cal sent fit. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 188	Posted - 2014.07.26 04:07:00 - [65] - Quote Abraham Baby Fish wrote: officialy, as a cal sentinel, the mostly proposed slot layouts for the proto one, after checking all stats MAX shield tank at proto will be 872.25 Shield HP! This is a kick right in the blls! While an STD GalSentinel can tank the same just with a ComplexPlate and an Basic plate,what kind of balance is that! Apart from the slot "balance" killing CPU/PG! you cant even fit a proto hmg and complex extenders! What the fck! this is the end of Heavy 514, welcome to the new FoTM assaults. That's because Caldari sucks ****. Gallente FTW!! MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3695	Posted - 2014.07.26 04:17:00 - [66] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share. Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr. Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. Saw your fitting. That doesn't count for a cal sent fit. Ok, whys that? You have nearly as much ehp as my Gallente assault with 2 plates, your faster, you rep 3 armour a sec vs my 10 per a second and you still have 86 shield recharge a second vs my 15 a second. Wait a second...why not just replace a extender with a ferroscale plate? They are easier to fit and you get more hp out of them... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 129	Posted - 2014.07.26 04:33:00 - [67] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share. Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr. Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. Saw your fitting. That doesn't count for a cal sent fit. Ok, whys that? You have nearly as much ehp as my Gallente assault with 2 plates, your faster, you rep 3 armour a sec vs my 10 per a second and you still have 86 shield recharge a second vs my 15 a second. Wait a second...why not just replace a extender with a ferroscale plate? They are easier to fit and you get more hp out of them... It doesn't count because it isn't a pure shield tank, which is why cal sent is up. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3145	Posted - 2014.07.26 10:07:00 - [68] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Abraham Baby Fish wrote: officialy, as a cal sentinel, the mostly proposed slot layouts for the proto one, after checking all stats MAX shield tank at proto will be 872.25 Shield HP! This is a kick right in the blls! While an STD GalSentinel can tank the same just with a ComplexPlate and an Basic plate,what kind of balance is that! Apart from the slot "balance" killing CPU/PG! you cant even fit a proto hmg and complex extenders! What the fck! this is the end of Heavy 514, welcome to the new FoTM assaults. Prehaps you should try playing to Shields ACTUAL strengths as opposed to simply stacking extenders all the way. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5830 This suit has 650 Shields (1+ù PRO Extender). My cal assault will have that much shields and 50 reps per second and smaller hitbox, or 2 energizers and 500 shield hp. Cal heavy will be underpowered come hf charlie. Depends which do you deem better? 650 Shields + 50reps -or- 650 Shields + 80reps + HMG 500 Shields + 80reps -or- 650 Shields + 80reps + HMG You also omit the fact that inorder to fit this amiunt of power you must 1) Use a CPU mod - Sacrificing an armour rep or other low slot module -or- 2) Sacrifice your sidearm, grenade and equipment They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2014.07.26 10:36:00 - [69] - Quote U run faster and have built in regen no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3145	Posted - 2014.07.26 10:38:00 - [70] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share. Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr. Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. Saw your fitting. That doesn't count for a cal sent fit. Ok, whys that? You have nearly as much ehp as my Gallente assault with 2 plates, your faster, you rep 3 armour a sec vs my 10 per a second and you still have 86 shield recharge a second vs my 15 a second. Wait a second...why not just replace a extender with a ferroscale plate? They are easier to fit and you get more hp out of them... It doesn't count because it isn't a pure shield tank, which is why cal sent is up. Aah and so we finally see the problem. He wants pure shield tank, he simply wamts tonnes of EHP like an armour suit so he can stand their and feel indestructible. News flash my friend if all your do is Pure Tank your shield suit - your gonna have a bad time. I suggest you go back to the Rookie Training Grounds and sit there a while until you understand the Differemce between Armour and Shields. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3714	Posted - 2014.07.26 13:53:00 - [71] - Quote For the guys who want more HP on their caldari sentinel click the link in my signature. Ive got a idea for a new shield module which benefits suits that start with lots of shields (heavys). New shield module!
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 66	Posted - 2014.07.26 14:53:00 - [72] - Quote It's not about pure tank. Like Cody stated I work my sentinel to rep instead of tank. Tanking a cal sentinel is pretty much useless. My problem is that the Cal sentinel can't stand and deliver as much as other sentinels due to the shield recharge kicking in. 1 bullet is enough to reset the shield recharge delay. Recharge delay is kind of useless for a stand and deliver suit. Running away in a sentinel suit.. Yeah right. 1 bullet in the back is enough to reset the delay. Perfect outcome would be a reptool that bypasses shield recharge delay but can't recharge shields itself. As to not make it OP. You get the same repair rate for shields as a core rep tool, but a well set Cal sentinel (rechargers) sacrifices tank for that high repair rate. To me that kind of balances it out. Like I said, the whole argument shield vs armor is not balanced. And there is no need to say "Gal sucks, Cal sucks" or calling people scrubs. We are trying to fix the game, not breaking it by deviding our community.
Feldt-Grace Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company 24	Posted - 2014.07.26 14:55:00 - [73] - Quote C-Senital + Six-Kin-Burst + 3 Proto-Shieldloader = better as a Amarr with Logi. xP TRANS-AM! Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays


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