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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:29:00 -
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Uhhhhhh, last I checked that wasn't final.
Besides, you can still regain tank. Gallente is going to be forced to only 1 rep :(
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:10:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Uhhhhhh, last I checked that wasn't final.
Besides, you can still regain tank. Gallente is going to be forced to only 1 rep :( You armor tankers can: Have over 750 armor AND 450-ish shields, and 30 reps per second no delay, and get repped by logi. While cal sent will....have hp of an assault and 80 reps per second or 800 shields with lol 30 reps per second with a delay to regen. I don't see the point in cal sent anymore My current fitting has 800 hp and 50 reps...or 700 hp and 80 reps per second...
Soooo, a Assault suit has just under 1200 base ehp?
You Caldari guys gotta stop putting down the Gallente sentinel. We can get 30 reps per sec if we use every single low slot, you can get 20 reps a second if you use every single low slot.
Not to mention the BASE 30 ehp you regain after the 4 second delay or the 1 second depleted delay.
Enough with the pissing contest, it just looks really stupid.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:36:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Uhhhhhh, last I checked that wasn't final.
Besides, you can still regain tank. Gallente is going to be forced to only 1 rep :( You armor tankers can: Have over 750 armor AND 450-ish shields, and 30 reps per second no delay, and get repped by logi. While cal sent will....have hp of an assault and 80 reps per second or 800 shields with lol 30 reps per second with a delay to regen. I don't see the point in cal sent anymore My current fitting has 800 hp and 50 reps...or 700 hp and 80 reps per second... Soooo, a Assault suit has just under 1200 base ehp? You Caldari guys gotta stop putting down the Gallente sentinel. We can get 30 reps per sec if we use every single low slot, you can get 20 reps a second if you use every single low slot. Not to mention the BASE 30 ehp you regain after the 4 second delay or the 1 second depleted delay. Enough with the pissing contest, it just looks really stupid. And you Gal boys forget about DELAY that kicks in AGAIN when a stray bullet hits you. This is not the case on a armor suit. Not talking the Galente down, stating facts here. Shield is not as viable compared to armor. The shield vs armor recharge delay is a joke. Also flux takes away all your shields, is there a grenade that takes away all your armor? Shield vs armor needs balance. It's not about race, its about balance.
That's the trade off, in the 1-4 seconds you have to get into cover, I rep 20-120 ehp. After that, you can rep up to 86 ehp a second.
So at 5 seconds in, you have 86 ehp and 150.
6 seconds you have 172 and I have 180
At 7 seconds you have 250 and I have 210.
So we only have the advantage for the first 4 seconds, unless your depleted delay kicks in...then you have us from the first second in.
We stand and deliver, you guys hit and run.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:57:00 -
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That's the trade off, in the 1-4 seconds you have to get into cover, I rep 20-120 ehp. After that, you can rep up to 86 ehp a second.
So at 5 seconds in, you have 86 ehp and 150.
6 seconds you have 172 and I have 180
At 7 seconds you have 250 and I have 210.
So we only have the advantage for the first 4 seconds, unless your depleted delay kicks in...then you have us from the first second in.
We stand and deliver, you guys hit and run.[/quote]
And it takes 6 secs for the speedy Cal Sent to get to cover, giving you a whopping 2 extra secs to destroy him. [/quote]
Are you pulling out in the middle of a fire fight?
@JR, we are changing to a 2/3 layout.
30 reps a second isn't going to save you from a HMG or even a 400 DPS rifle.
Not to mention, you can get 20 reps a second and we can barely get 40 shield recharge a second if we use our only 2 high slots.
You can get 86 a second! With just 2 mods! You can go all the way to 126 a second with 3 mods! You can get 75 percent of our reps and we can only get about 30-40 percent of you shield repair!
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:13:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:S-PANZA wrote:And it takes 6 secs for the speedy Cal Sent to get to cover, giving you a whopping 2 extra secs to destroy him. Are you pulling out in the middle of a firefight? @JR, we are changing to a 2/3 layout. 30 reps a second isn't going to save you from a HMG or even a 400 DPS rifle. Not to mention, you can get 20 reps a second and we can barely get 40 shield recharge a second if we use our only 2 high slots. You can get 86 a second! With just 2 mods! You can go all the way to 126 a second with 3 mods! You can get 75 percent of our reps and we can only get about 30-40 percent of you shield repair! And our shield hp is 600! And your armor is over 750, and amarr will be worse with its 4 lows, now cal sents will be utter crap, 3 highs, that means our shield hp is, 600 as I said, pathetic, my assault will have over 500 shields, and faster with smaller hitbox... And I used a 30 rep 500 or 600 armor logi, I could survive for so long if a broken hmg didn't apear.
But that's the trade off...lower overall ehp...higher overall recharge...
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5834 Caldari CK.0
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5833 Gallente GK.0 the Gallente is over his CPU and wouldn't even be able to run this fit
Oh and if you think the Amarr is going to be worst with a 1/4 layout...heh
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:28:00 -
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Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share.
Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr.
Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
3695
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:17:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Ah, I didn't know I had to hit share.
Basically(like I said with my original post) Gallente can't rep tank anymore because we just don't have enough ehp to stand toe to toe with the new Amarr.
Of course, that does depend on the new dmg mod changes, the 2 high slots could give us enough of a advantage to possibly rep tank and still be able to stand up to a Amarr sentinel, but I somewhat doubt that. Saw your fitting. That doesn't count for a cal sent fit.
Ok, whys that?
You have nearly as much ehp as my Gallente assault with 2 plates, your faster, you rep 3 armour a sec vs my 10 per a second and you still have 86 shield recharge a second vs my 15 a second.
Wait a second...why not just replace a extender with a ferroscale plate? They are easier to fit and you get more hp out of them...
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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