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Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6427	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote First of all, congratulations to the elected representatives. May your voices coincide with the community and be ever filled with weight on CCP's ears. Look, I'm bitter. Not because I didn't get elected, I fully expected and prepared for that very possible fact. What I am frustrated about, is that now there's a feeling that... I'm running out of options. A feeling that all the efforts were in vain, that my voice hasn't, and isn't going to be heard. So much so that I'm willing to make a fool of myself on the day of the election results. See, my reason for running for the CPM was to bark in CCP's ear about implementation of an ISD, actual API support, and better localization support for our players (in particular, the Portuguese players). That being said... With the exception of the localization support... This is [redacted] that I've been pushing for -for months-. This is something I've been bickering CCP about for as long as I can remember. Ask Saberwing, if you can find him, I'd been badgering him about it since he started employment with CCP. Forgive me if I come off as abrasive, but I've kinda got the impression that these things just aren't going to happen. I personally feel like CCP just doesn't care enough to make it happen, and I'm not entirely convinced that members of the newly elected CPM are going to push hard enough for it with the exception of Cross/Zatara/Kevall because I know those guys (and I have their Skype info...) What frustrates me even more is the fact that, to date, every time it's been brought up it's been deflected. "We're not ready for it" and "We're ironing stuff out to make it happen" were the usual responses and that's public twitter messages, not confidential dev/player talk. But speaking of confidential dev talk, I'm under no NDA and even though I can still see reprecussions for it - I'll go ahead and say the reasoning that I was given at Fan Fest: We don't have a test server! (Funny, I know, because we don't need a test server for this stuff to actually happen). Being on the CPM, to me, was an opportunity to hear what the real reasons were - if any - and help actually iron them out, or be in a more personal setting where I could have challenged the excuses presented. Guys, this is [redacted] we've needed since day one... I figured the sheer success of ISD and API support from Eve Online would have been evidence enough as to why we've needed this since the start of the game but apparently it's just not enough. So, I'll say the same thing I said when I was at CCP Fanfest in one of the Dev Panels: No more excuses. Make it happen, if not for Dust 514, for Project Legion. My request is that the current CPM 1 presses my platform for me, cause that's the only hope I've got left for any of this... No More Excuses
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2501	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:10:00 - [2] - Quote pat pat There there buddy, it'll be fine. Still lots of work for us to do, even if we're not on CPM. I don't expect our heated talks (albeit riddled with scope creep at times) to stop any time soon. Got some really solid names in there, hopefully they can do what needs to be done as a CPM. As for us, lets do what needs to be done as members of the community. Wanna get a couple of beers and some spreadsheets?
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11289	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:10:00 - [3] - Quote Well, you tried, that's more than I can say about myself. You had my vote, and I was disappointed when I didn't see you on the list. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 734	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:11:00 - [4] - Quote I'm honestly surprised you weren't elected. o7
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2925	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:11:00 - [5] - Quote ISD, API, and localization are definitely among the top ways CCP can better reach out to and bring together the community. I'm strongly behind those goals, and will be happy to pass on anything and everything in those categories. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7862	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:13:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: You had my vote, and I was disappointed when I didn't see you on the list. Same :[ King Thunderbolt is my number one fan. Cross Atu for CPM1 /o/
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4293	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote Personally? I think that the majority of us forum guys wanted you in But the other 800 voters had no idea who you were. Turned out to be a popularity contest after all 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4821	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:31:00 - [8] - Quote I will still listen, on the CPM or not. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 304	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:33:00 - [9] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all It's High School all over again....
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6430	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:34:00 - [10] - Quote RayRay James wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all It's High School all over again.... High School Never Ends No More Excuses

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2503	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:34:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6430	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:37:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Love you to death, Rattati, but I need a lot more than listening at this point. No More Excuses
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1409	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:47:00 - [13] - Quote Aeon, I feel that not being affiliated with a strong corp probably hurt your chances this time around man. I'm still surprised you didn't get more votes but I can see why people might have overlooked you. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Zelda Harkinian Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 135	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:53:00 - [14] - Quote who's on the council?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3672	Posted - 2014.07.25 17:58:00 - [15] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:00:00 - [16] - Quote As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11289	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:03:00 - [17] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2506	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:04:00 - [18] - Quote Zelda Harkinian wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too. who's on the council? and no, I like Ratatti, especially because he isn't snarky. Or at least he isn't as snarky as some other member who was CPM and somehow ended up getting on the council again. Ratatti is nice, cheerful, doesn't raise his voice, or is prone to anger. He makes me feel like Dust has a future. Oh he expresses irritation openly when people are being chode nuggets, and I love it. Cheerful dude who isn't afraid to tell people to stfu when they're being assholes. Its the same mentality that I have which is basically, "If you're not interested in being constructive, the door is over there"
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 305	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RayRay James wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all It's High School all over again.... High School Never Ends Holy $hit, Bowling for Soup. They totally fell off the radar for me shortly after I met them at a winter concert the radio station I worked for hosted. They were really, really cool guys. /end sidetrack
Zelda Harkinian Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 135	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:08:00 - [20] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Zelda Harkinian wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too. who's on the council? and no, I like Ratatti, especially because he isn't snarky. Or at least he isn't as snarky as some other member who was CPM and somehow ended up getting on the council again. Ratatti is nice, cheerful, doesn't raise his voice, or is prone to anger. He makes me feel like Dust has a future. Oh he expresses irritation openly when people are being chode nuggets, and I love it. Cheerful dude who isn't afraid to tell people to stfu when they're being assholes. Its the same mentality that I have which is basically, "If you're not interested in being constructive, the door is over there" oh, ok, now I understand. yeah, I like that about him too. I thought you meant snarky as in making sarcastic remarks or trying to be funny when the situation doesn't call for it... as someone else is prone to doing every now and then. you know of who I mean.

SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:16:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2506	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:19:00 - [22] - Quote Zelda Harkinian wrote: oh, ok, now I understand. yeah, I like that about him too. I thought you meant snarky as in making sarcastic remarks or trying to be funny when the situation doesn't call for it... as someone else is prone to doing every now and then. you know of who I mean.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6437	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:19:00 - [23] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: Cat Merc wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..? No More Excuses
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:26:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Cat Merc wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..? I would suppose interactive software development, application Programming interface And what exactly would you be focusing localization on? You see this is a good example of your bad communication skills. Instead of using terms explain why they are relevant. Your initial statement in this thread revealed your true intent
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3656	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:37:00 - [25] - Quote ISD is a program that anyone who's eve listened to Aeon explain or plays Eve Online is aware of. It's essentially a volunteer force of players who help CCP with things like lore, events, bug tracking, forum moderation and the like. API would be like crest and is the requisite for 3rd party apps like Dotlan, Dustcharts, Dustboard, and many other websites. Localization would be like having CCP reps that speak Portuguese to help in customer service, or have dust rendered in their language for when they play. For instance if you ever see videos from our chinese players they play dust in english because there is no chinese localization. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6437	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:37:00 - [26] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Cat Merc wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..? I would suppose interactive software development, application Programming interface And what exactly would you be focusing localization on? You see this is a good example of your bad communication skills. Instead of using terms, explain why they are relevant. Your initial statement in this thread revealed your true intent If you'd actually read my campaign thread, or at least looked on google, you might know that ISD stands for Interstellar Services Department. It's a volunteer based department with multiple sections for players who can attribute their skills and abilities for the betterment of the game. Bug Hunting teams, Lore, Media/Reporting, New Player Help... It's an all encompassing system that, while rusty, greatly involves the community... You're right about API - but I'm willing to bet you don't understand the full capabilities of what it has to offer. Such as unparalleled third-party software development support. Eve Online uses it's API so that you can punch in your API key into a third-party software, and instantly have all your skill levels correctly attributed. It'd be like going to www.protofits.com and not having to manually put in each individual skill level to build a fit. I have an app for my phone that allows me to check my wallet, skills, manufacturing/research jobs, build fits, notify me when my skill is done training... And Localization? Localization is -LANGUAGE- support. Our Portuguese community currently has to use in-corp translators that have to translate, over and over and over again, each individual line of text in-game just so their new players are able to play the game. I explained all of this in my campaign thread. My "true intent" was largely to put more power in the hands of the community, something I don't feel I should have had to run for CPM to do. No More Excuses
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2508	Posted - 2014.07.25 18:44:00 - [27] - Quote ISDs are really a fantastic tool that needs to be pushed for in the community. We have so many strong groups of people who understand the game VERY well and need to be able to easily work with other talented individuals to put forth highly developed ideas so we can get away from so many 'quick and dirty' fixes. It's something I'm very interested in being involved in as a member of the community and I really do hope that CPM1 heavily pushes for CCP to not only support, but facilitate in the very near future.
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:21:00 - [28] - Quote So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST. These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them?
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2325	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:28:00 - [29] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST. These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? wasting waste their I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:29:00 - [30] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST. These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? wasting waste their Good catch their spell check lady climb in my phone and correct it for me kid.

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2919	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:29:00 - [31] - Quote o7 This is how a minja feels
Killar-12 The Exemplars Top Men. 3054	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:52:00 - [32] - Quote I could have swore IWS was talking about CCP getting things around for the ISD program, Aeon so that might come sooner rather than later. I am an Idiot, and so are you!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1673	Posted - 2014.07.25 19:59:00 - [33] - Quote I voted for you This thread makes me feel so sad right now In all honesty, I hope your voice is heard, because, as far as i can tell, you really are looking out for this game's best interests. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3692	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:02:00 - [34] - Quote I voted for you. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2926	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:06:00 - [35] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. ISD, API, and localization are all possible with DUST. Why? Because all three, developed well, will also work with Legion. And none of the three require additional load on the PS3 platform or the devs. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2515	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:46:00 - [36] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. ISD, API, and localization are all possible with DUST. Why? Because all three, developed well, will also work with Legion. And none of the three require additional load on the PS3 platform or the devs. If anything ISD is a Community program, not a game program. If CCP is even mildly intelligent, they'll understand that the Dust community is hopefully very much the same as the Legion community. ISD will be beneficial for both games and is in no way limited by Dust's development limitations.
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2361	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:51:00 - [37] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust. So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST. These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? wasting waste their And I don't remember who said it, or where, but it's "for all intents and purposes" not "for all intensive purposes". Grammar Nerds Unite! K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r). Beh!
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3262	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:52:00 - [38] - Quote Aeon you can always bug iron wolf, out of all them maybe maybe he will understand as a follow RP guy :) (like really dude why did you stop you used to be cool :() You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6443	Posted - 2014.07.25 20:58:00 - [39] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Aeon you can always bug iron wolf, out of all them maybe maybe he will understand as a follow RP guy :) (like really dude why did you stop you used to be cool :() Lore is confusing and sometimes contradictory. No More Excuses
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2382	Posted - 2014.07.25 22:48:00 - [40] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Love you to death, Rattati, but I need a lot more than listening at this point. Quickly! Give the man your manliest man hug! Dust Loyalist *Greedy Bastards*

I-Shayz-I I----------I 4298	Posted - 2014.07.25 23:14:00 - [41] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because everyone knew who he was. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1851	Posted - 2014.07.25 23:31:00 - [42] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because forums have very little to do with who actually gets elected, despite their inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is that the dedicated forum goers only make up a tiny fraction of the voting populace, and smart candidates spend the majority of their time NOT on the forums campaigning because not an efficient source of votes.
David Spd Caldari State 145	Posted - 2014.07.25 23:46:00 - [43] - Quote The only person I've ever seen comment anything substantial on the new council is Iron Wolf Saber, and I've decided I quite like him from CPM0. Aeon is the only non-council member I've ever noticed saying anything well thought out (or intelligent). This new council is a joke, if you ask me (no offense Iron Wolf Saber; I like you). --> I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often <-- "Other people just complicate my life." ~Solid Snake
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3671	Posted - 2014.07.26 00:10:00 - [44] - Quote I know for a fact Judge and Cross have both had a long history of feedback. I have a few threads but do not participate on the forums as much unless it's constructive or meaningful. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6453	Posted - 2014.07.26 00:12:00 - [45] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because forums have very little to do with who actually gets elected, despite their inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is that the dedicated forum goers only make up a tiny fraction of the voting populace, and smart candidates spend the majority of their time NOT on the forums campaigning because not an efficient source of votes. Right, but the general apathy of the player-base was... disheartening. It was sort of a pain in the [redacted] to go to well known individuals within the community to talk only to ignored or be met with blatant trolling. There were a lot of players who simply didn't care to listen. I'm honestly surprised we had 1000 votes, I expected around 600. No More Excuses
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2620	Posted - 2014.07.26 19:29:00 - [46] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ISD, API, and localization are definitely among the top ways CCP can better reach out to and bring together the community. I'm strongly behind those goals, and will be happy to pass on anything and everything in those categories. Very much in accord with this. As you rightly state Aeon, you have my contact info, and I hope you use it. Stay in touch (take a little time off if you need it of course, but don't drop off the face of the earth on me yeah?) and keep the ideas (and reminders) coming. Cheers, Cross See cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 966	Posted - 2014.07.26 19:51:00 - [47] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because forums have very little to do with who actually gets elected, despite their inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is that the dedicated forum goers only make up a tiny fraction of the voting populace, and smart candidates spend the majority of their time NOT on the forums campaigning because not an efficient source of votes. Yes , that's what EVE is for . Most of the voters come from EVE . Dust is fazing out so why have representation from a dead weight ? I just can't understand why this Dust community can't understand that . You don't have a voice , only EVE players do ... part of the reason that CCP is taking legion live . I don't even understand why people from this community even voted because you have no say , had no say and were never going to be a part of any viable decision making . You have the forum and that's it . This is for EVE players only . Look at the comments and who get tagged ... who's suggestions are excepted and who gets ignored . It's so easy to see . " Your corporation is not well known . " , basically means that your not EVE famous enough . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 3406	Posted - 2014.07.26 22:10:00 - [48] - Quote Unfortunately, like eve, the council members tend to depend on the big corps pushing their members to vote rather than those who will be good for the council (like aeon). He was my first choice, he should have been yours. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12258	Posted - 2014.07.27 01:27:00 - [49] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because forums have very little to do with who actually gets elected, despite their inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is that the dedicated forum goers only make up a tiny fraction of the voting populace, and smart candidates spend the majority of their time NOT on the forums campaigning because not an efficient source of votes. And the voting populous was less than 3% of the estimated player base...... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
DAMIOS82 WarRavens Final Resolution. 133	Posted - 2014.07.27 06:48:00 - [50] - Quote More then likely because most of us did not even know when or where to vote, like me. I've been cruising the forums only a few times in the last few months, always looking for the vote link, only to find out it has allready passed. In Eve they make election day well known, including where to vote with big massive neon signs. This is something that needs to be improved in Dust/Legion, the advertisement of it, only then you might see an increase in vote's. Aeon i would not worry to much about it, your voice still matters to us plebs and you might still get a chance at it in Legion next time.

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6465	Posted - 2014.07.27 07:14:00 - [51] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Unfortunately, like eve, the council members tend to depend on the big corps pushing their members to vote rather than those who will be good for the council (like aeon). He was my first choice, he should have been yours. lmfao **** it people dont even kno what the isd is anywau No More Excuses
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 621	Posted - 2014.07.27 07:20:00 - [52] - Quote DAMIOS82 wrote: More then likely because most of us did not even know when or where to vote, like me. I've been cruising the forums only a few times in the last few months, always looking for the vote link, only to find out it has allready passed. In Eve they make election day well known, including where to vote with big massive neon signs. This is something that needs to be improved in Dust/Legion, the advertisement of it, only then you might see an increase in vote's. Aeon i would not worry to much about it, your voice still matters to us plebs and you might still get a chance at it in Legion next time. This, I've been on the forums for about a month now And a consistent Dust player for nearly two years now And I've only heard "CPM elections" once in that time I went to go vote today because someone asked me who I voted for and I was like "Vote for what?" WHY IS EVERYTHING SO BROKEN I've never been so infuriated by anything I've ever loved this much Freiken Dust man Closed Beta Vet/ Chromosome and Corp battle Vet/ Uprising 1.0-Now PC vet Ex D.F. Director Current Inner.Hell Director
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2021	Posted - 2014.07.27 10:29:00 - [53] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: As someone who specifically did not vote for you. I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community. Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident. Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. I don't have enough hands or space on his neck to choke out that much idiocy . @ Aeon, I am completely taken aback that you didn't make it. When I have time to troll the forums, I will do my best to help you push for localization. I may not have a lot to say on the topic, but at the very least I can slap a link to a post on my sig to help it grab visibility. Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1416	Posted - 2014.07.27 10:54:00 - [54] - Quote So less than 1000 votes, I for one was about 2 or 3 of those votes using my alts... I imagine others voted with alts too. So realistically were looking at about 500-750 people voting. That's a terrible turn out. However lets be honest, CCP barely put any effort into telling people in game what was going on. A few lines of text does not capture peoples attention. It should have been in game with an easy way in game to vote! But then again its CCP and they always doing things in strange and wonderful ways..... -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2939	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:03:00 - [55] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: It should have been in game with an easy way in game to vote! But then again its CCP and they always doing things in strange and wonderful ways..... Putting new UI in the game is a REALLY tall order. To be honest, I don't see how they could've done it. Also, voting in-game would've meant a list of names and nothing more, which meant few or none of the voters would've been informed. The in-game updates page, however, did specify that CPM voting was open. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
R-E-D-R-U-M WRONG-TURN 16	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:23:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Because forums have very little to do with who actually gets elected, despite their inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is that the dedicated forum goers only make up a tiny fraction of the voting populace, and smart candidates spend the majority of their time NOT on the forums campaigning because not an efficient source of votes. And the voting populous was less than 3% of the estimated player base...... LMAO! Less if you count all the 'alts' who voted. I can only laugh at this game now.....
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 3124	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:27:00 - [57] - Quote Personally, I am kinda sickened that IWS ran again after the whole FF incident. I have always felt that IWS Loyalty aligned more towards CCP then the community. However, he works hard and is passionate about Dust, so each to their own I suppose. The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
RECON BY FIRE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 415	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:58:00 - [58] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door Yeah, the fact IWS was reelected over Aeon really makes me wonder about this community. IWS is nothing more than a superb forum troll at best. Stuff....?
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2939	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:43:00 - [59] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Personally, I am kinda sickened that IWS ran again after the whole FF incident. I have always felt that IWS Loyalty aligned more towards CCP then the community. However, he works hard and is passionate about Dust, so each to their own I suppose. By "Fanfest Incident", I'm guessing you mean when the CPM apparently conspired to stab all the players in the back and cancel the PS3 game? Or the one where CCP does things even when the CPM tells them not to? CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 3125	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:52:00 - [60] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Personally, I am kinda sickened that IWS ran again after the whole FF incident. I have always felt that IWS Loyalty aligned more towards CCP then the community. However, he works hard and is passionate about Dust, so each to their own I suppose. By "Fanfest Incident", I'm guessing you mean when the CPM apparently conspired to stab all the players in the back and cancel the PS3 game? Or the one where CCP does things even when the CPM tells them not to? You're a idiot , stop posting and stop quoting my posts The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete

Immortal John Ripper 22707	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:56:00 - [61] - Quote eats popcorn This thread just keeps getting better and better. Good entertainment. 8/10 Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender Skype: John_Ripper5150
General John Ripper 22712	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:56:00 - [62] - Quote eats popcorn This thread just keeps getting better and better. Good entertainment. 8/10 Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender Skype: John_Ripper5150
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 362	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:33:00 - [63] - Quote I'll call it now. It was rigged!!!
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 378	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:57:00 - [64] - Quote History lesson: When in Closed beta Chromosome, I'm sure the vets will remember this, but we were promised hot fixes almost casually as problems progressed in game. This was around the time Lasers were OP beyond reason. Took them 3 months to fix it. Then flylock spam - another 3 months. Nades insta exploding? 1 month. Forge guns not shooting? Another month passive stats upgrades not implying? Did they even fix this? Railguns not firing? Still working on it. The list goes on. Now, let's go back and see if CCP directly handles problems that directly inflict problems on the player base - such as cheating in a tournament that went on for over a month. OH - wait! They allowed cheating! See, I don't get why you can put up with it anymore Aeon - CCP is beyond help. When they sell out to Activision or EA and have there management team completely replaced - then we'll have hope around here again.
Grease Spillett Greasers 379	Posted - 2014.07.27 19:05:00 - [65] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: History lesson: When in Closed beta Chromosome, I'm sure the vets will remember this, but we were promised hot fixes almost casually as problems progressed in game. This was around the time Lasers were OP beyond reason. Took them 3 months to fix it. Then flylock spam - another 3 months. Nades insta exploding? 1 month. Forge guns not shooting? Another month passive stats upgrades not implying? Did they even fix this? Railguns not firing? Still working on it. The list goes on. Now, let's go back and see if CCP directly handles problems that directly inflict problems on the player base - such as cheating in a tournament that went on for over a month. OH - wait! They allowed cheating! See, I don't get why you can put up with it anymore Aeon - CCP is beyond help. When they sell out to Activision or EA and have there management team completely replaced - then we'll have hope around here again. I'm REALLY DIGGING Destiny good job bungie. Even Kujo plays it. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6474	Posted - 2014.07.27 19:28:00 - [66] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: History lesson: When in Closed beta Chromosome, I'm sure the vets will remember this, but we were promised hot fixes almost casually as problems progressed in game. This was around the time Lasers were OP beyond reason. Took them 3 months to fix it. Then flylock spam - another 3 months. Nades insta exploding? 1 month. Forge guns not shooting? Another month passive stats upgrades not implying? Did they even fix this? Railguns not firing? Still working on it. The list goes on. Now, let's go back and see if CCP directly handles problems that directly inflict problems on the player base - such as cheating in a tournament that went on for over a month. OH - wait! They allowed cheating! See, I don't get why you can put up with it anymore Aeon - CCP is beyond help. When they sell out to Activision or EA and have there management team completely replaced - then we'll have hope around here again. Was really drunk last night so I couldn't respond to this coherently, but I think CCP would sooner just kill the franchise (Dust, not Eve) sooner than selling the rights to someone like Activision or EA. Especially EA. I put up with it because... Well, I still have hope. It's dwindling, sure, but I still have hope. One of the things I plan on doing here in the near future is offering up ISK rewards to Portuguese players who are fluent in English so we can get a fully localized and translated Wiki for Dust 514 going that players can be directed to. With any luck, might be able to get that as a community spotlight or something. Was talking with Saberwing about it before the layoffs and I think it could still happen if I brain the new CPM enough about it. No More Excuses
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2014.07.27 19:35:00 - [67] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: History lesson: When in Closed beta Chromosome, I'm sure the vets will remember this, but we were promised hot fixes almost casually as problems progressed in game. This was around the time Lasers were OP beyond reason. Took them 3 months to fix it. Then flylock spam - another 3 months. Nades insta exploding? 1 month. Forge guns not shooting? Another month passive stats upgrades not implying? Did they even fix this? Railguns not firing? Still working on it. The list goes on. Now, let's go back and see if CCP directly handles problems that directly inflict problems on the player base - such as cheating in a tournament that went on for over a month. OH - wait! They allowed cheating! See, I don't get why you can put up with it anymore Aeon - CCP is beyond help. When they sell out to Activision or EA and have there management team completely replaced - then we'll have hope around here again. Was really drunk last night so I couldn't respond to this coherently, but I think CCP would sooner just kill the franchise (Dust, not Eve) sooner than selling the rights to someone like Activision or EA. Especially EA. I put up with it because... Well, I still have hope. It's dwindling, sure, but I still have hope. One of the things I plan on doing here in the near future is offering up ISK rewards to Portuguese players who are fluent in English so we can get a fully localized and translated Wiki for Dust 514 going that players can be directed to. With any luck, might be able to get that as a community spotlight or something. Was talking with Saberwing about it before the layoffs and I think it could still happen if I brain the new CPM enough about it. Get in contact with Pud and Vice - they're well hooked up in the spanish speaking communities. I'm sure they'll know some Ports too. And I don't see how you have any hope at all - Each big patch we put all our hopes in, Uprising, Fanfest patch notes, ext, has turned into the worst things we've come across. Every promised 'big news! Be prepared!" we get - turns into CCP shitting on to the point if I look up all I can see if there crap blocking my view. I can count on one hand how many friends I have left who still play this game. The concept that made it special - Plantary Conquest - is now in other games. CCP had a unique concept and they dropped the ball because of terrible management - and what's worse, they don't agree that's the problem! The management refuses to handle itself, there is no hope here. I can't even imagine what CCP could do to rebuild trust with those who gave them years just to be **** on. This isn't like Incarna with EvE - you still have EvE and what it's about - we got the middle finger and told they're packing up and going else where - complete abandonment.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6475	Posted - 2014.07.27 21:42:00 - [68] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: Get in contact with Pud and Vice - they're well hooked up in the spanish speaking communities. I'm sure they'll know some Ports too. And I don't see how you have any hope at all - Each big patch we put all our hopes in, Uprising, Fanfest patch notes, ext, has turned into the worst things we've come across. Every promised 'big news! Be prepared!" we get - turns into CCP shitting on to the point if I look up all I can see if there crap blocking my view. I can count on one hand how many friends I have left who still play this game. The concept that made it special - Plantary Conquest - is now in other games. CCP had a unique concept and they dropped the ball because of terrible management - and what's worse, they don't agree that's the problem! The management refuses to handle itself, there is no hope here. I can't even imagine what CCP could do to rebuild trust with those who gave them years just to be ** on. This isn't like Incarna with EvE - you still have EvE and what it's about - we got the middle finger and told they're packing up and going else where - complete abandonment. Just gotta roll with the punches, man. I try not to focus on all the ** that went wrong and focus on what we can do right. This thread was a momentary lapse in critical thinking brought on by... a bunch of personal [redacted]. There's still things we -CAN- do, right now, outside of all the problems. I realized that primarily around the fourth Shiner Boch at the Funky Monkey listening to some businessman rant about his wife. Trust me when I say that I'm still 100% committed to my campaign platform, even if I didn't get elected. Just need a little bit of help from the community and, in some edge cases, CCP. No More Excuses
CEOPyrex CloneA The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 847	Posted - 2014.07.27 22:39:00 - [69] - Quote Unlucky on the CPM front, i actually had you on the little bit of paper i had that predicted who would win (i was mostly wrong btw) for what its worth i think you would have done a great job at it. Next time for CPM 2 i wouldn't waste a moments time on the forums, i think a lot of candidates had a great message to relay but doing so over a sub forum of a pretty dead forum itself was a real waste of time. We did a moderate bit of campaigning for Judge on my channel and put Darkstar Army at his back, seems to have worked well and when compared to much more 'active' alliances who seem to not even come out for their leaders / candidates to the same level, I was quite surprised at that. I think perhaps we underestimated how active youtube is for dust players. Still if we are all still here in a years time, id urge you to run again, you had some great messages and ideas so please dont lose faith entirely dude.
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 383	Posted - 2014.07.27 22:44:00 - [70] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Unlucky on the CPM front, i actually had you on the little bit of paper i had that predicted who would win (i was mostly wrong btw) for what its worth i think you would have done a great job at it. Next time for CPM 2 i wouldn't waste a moments time on the forums, i think a lot of candidates had a great message to relay but doing so over a sub forum of a pretty dead forum itself was a real waste of time. We did a moderate bit of campaigning for Judge on my channel and put Darkstar Army at his back, seems to have worked well and when compared to much more 'active' alliances who seem to not even come out for their leaders / candidates to the same level, I was quite surprised at that. I think perhaps we underestimated how active youtube is for dust players. Still if we are all still here in a years time, id urge you to run again, you had some great messages and ideas so please dont lose faith entirely dude. no one underestimated youtube - you guys overestimate dust's remaining population that gives a crap. Let me give you the total count - take the total votes, subtract Judges votes - that's the community size.

Immortal John Ripper 22713	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:16:00 - [71] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Unlucky on the CPM front, i actually had you on the little bit of paper i had that predicted who would win (i was mostly wrong btw) for what its worth i think you would have done a great job at it. Next time for CPM 2 i wouldn't waste a moments time on the forums, i think a lot of candidates had a great message to relay but doing so over a sub forum of a pretty dead forum itself was a real waste of time. We did a moderate bit of campaigning for Judge on my channel and put Darkstar Army at his back, seems to have worked well and when compared to much more 'active' alliances who seem to not even come out for their leaders / candidates to the same level, I was quite surprised at that. I think perhaps we underestimated how active youtube is for dust players. Still if we are all still here in a years time, id urge you to run again, you had some great messages and ideas so please dont lose faith entirely dude. no one underestimated youtube - you guys overestimate dust's remaining population that gives a crap. Let me give you the total count - take the total votes, subtract Judges votes - that's the community size. You forgot to subtract my alts. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender Skype: John_Ripper5150
General John Ripper 22816	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:16:00 - [72] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Unlucky on the CPM front, i actually had you on the little bit of paper i had that predicted who would win (i was mostly wrong btw) for what its worth i think you would have done a great job at it. Next time for CPM 2 i wouldn't waste a moments time on the forums, i think a lot of candidates had a great message to relay but doing so over a sub forum of a pretty dead forum itself was a real waste of time. We did a moderate bit of campaigning for Judge on my channel and put Darkstar Army at his back, seems to have worked well and when compared to much more 'active' alliances who seem to not even come out for their leaders / candidates to the same level, I was quite surprised at that. I think perhaps we underestimated how active youtube is for dust players. Still if we are all still here in a years time, id urge you to run again, you had some great messages and ideas so please dont lose faith entirely dude. no one underestimated youtube - you guys overestimate dust's remaining population that gives a crap. Let me give you the total count - take the total votes, subtract Judges votes - that's the community size. You forgot to subtract my alts. CCP is now cyber stalking me and banning me for stuff I post months ago no one will ever see. I will never be safe.
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2023	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:44:00 - [73] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: History lesson: When in Closed beta Chromosome, I'm sure the vets will remember this, but we were promised hot fixes almost casually as problems progressed in game. This was around the time Lasers were OP beyond reason. Took them 3 months to fix it. Then flylock spam - another 3 months. Nades insta exploding? 1 month. Forge guns not shooting? Another month passive stats upgrades not implying? Did they even fix this? Railguns not firing? Still working on it. The list goes on. Now, let's go back and see if CCP directly handles problems that directly inflict problems on the player base - such as cheating in a tournament that went on for over a month. OH - wait! They allowed cheating! See, I don't get why you can put up with it anymore Aeon - CCP is beyond help. When they sell out to Activision or EA and have there management team completely replaced - then we'll have hope around here again. Was really drunk last night so I couldn't respond to this coherently, but I think CCP would sooner just kill the franchise (Dust, not Eve) sooner than selling the rights to someone like Activision or EA. Especially EA. I put up with it because... Well, I still have hope. It's dwindling, sure, but I still have hope. One of the things I plan on doing here in the near future is offering up ISK rewards to Portuguese players who are fluent in English so we can get a fully localized and translated Wiki for Dust 514 going that players can be directed to. With any luck, might be able to get that as a community spotlight or something. Was talking with Saberwing about it before the layoffs and I think it could still happen if I brain the new CPM enough about it. I can count on one hand how many friends I have left who still play this game. 2 hands. I have 5 alts and this main. Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 387	Posted - 2014.07.27 23:58:00 - [74] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: I can count on one hand how many friends I have left who still play this game. 2 hands. I have 5 alts and this main. rofl, but if you have 5 alts I might need a toe to keep counting :3
Egypt Musk VIVI NOS LUVS FAT CHICKS 194	Posted - 2014.08.04 16:16:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I will still listen, on the CPM or not. BWAHAHAHAHA all you can do is hot fixes your not capable of patching there for this point is a waste of time much like any endeavor of CCP's after eve was released Nvr 4get what ccp did http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fanfest-day-two-red-wedding.html


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