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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6427
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:03:00 -
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First of all, congratulations to the elected representatives. May your voices coincide with the community and be ever filled with weight on CCP's ears.
Look, I'm bitter. Not because I didn't get elected, I fully expected and prepared for that very possible fact. What I am frustrated about, is that now there's a feeling that... I'm running out of options. A feeling that all the efforts were in vain, that my voice hasn't, and isn't going to be heard. So much so that I'm willing to make a fool of myself on the day of the election results.
See, my reason for running for the CPM was to bark in CCP's ear about implementation of an ISD, actual API support, and better localization support for our players (in particular, the Portuguese players). That being said... With the exception of the localization support... This is [redacted] that I've been pushing for -for months-. This is something I've been bickering CCP about for as long as I can remember. Ask Saberwing, if you can find him, I'd been badgering him about it since he started employment with CCP.
Forgive me if I come off as abrasive, but I've kinda got the impression that these things just aren't going to happen. I personally feel like CCP just doesn't care enough to make it happen, and I'm not entirely convinced that members of the newly elected CPM are going to push hard enough for it with the exception of Cross/Zatara/Kevall because I know those guys (and I have their Skype info...)
What frustrates me even more is the fact that, to date, every time it's been brought up it's been deflected. "We're not ready for it" and "We're ironing stuff out to make it happen" were the usual responses and that's public twitter messages, not confidential dev/player talk.
But speaking of confidential dev talk, I'm under no NDA and even though I can still see reprecussions for it - I'll go ahead and say the reasoning that I was given at Fan Fest: We don't have a test server! (Funny, I know, because we don't need a test server for this stuff to actually happen). Being on the CPM, to me, was an opportunity to hear what the real reasons were - if any - and help actually iron them out, or be in a more personal setting where I could have challenged the excuses presented.
Guys, this is [redacted] we've needed since day one... I figured the sheer success of ISD and API support from Eve Online would have been evidence enough as to why we've needed this since the start of the game but apparently it's just not enough. So, I'll say the same thing I said when I was at CCP Fanfest in one of the Dev Panels: No more excuses. Make it happen, if not for Dust 514, for Project Legion. My request is that the current CPM 1 presses my platform for me, cause that's the only hope I've got left for any of this...
No More Excuses
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2501
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:10:00 -
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*pat pat* There there buddy, it'll be fine. Still lots of work for us to do, even if we're not on CPM. I don't expect our heated talks (albeit riddled with scope creep at times) to stop any time soon. Got some really solid names in there, hopefully they can do what needs to be done as a CPM. As for us, lets do what needs to be done as members of the community.
Wanna get a couple of beers and some spreadsheets? |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11289
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:10:00 -
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Well, you tried, that's more than I can say about myself.
You had my vote, and I was disappointed when I didn't see you on the list.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
734
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:11:00 -
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I'm honestly surprised you weren't elected.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2925
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:11:00 -
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ISD, API, and localization are definitely among the top ways CCP can better reach out to and bring together the community. I'm strongly behind those goals, and will be happy to pass on anything and everything in those categories.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7862
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You had my vote, and I was disappointed when I didn't see you on the list. Same :[
King Thunderbolt is my number one fan.
Cross Atu for CPM1 /o/
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
4293
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:28:00 -
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Personally?
I think that the majority of us forum guys wanted you in But the other 800 voters had no idea who you were.
Turned out to be a popularity contest after all
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
4821
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:31:00 -
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I will still listen, on the CPM or not.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
304
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:33:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all
It's High School all over again.... |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6430
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:34:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all
It's High School all over again....
High School Never Ends
No More Excuses
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2503
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:34:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I will still listen, on the CPM or not.
Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too. |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6430
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:37:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I will still listen, on the CPM or not.
Love you to death, Rattati, but I need a lot more than listening at this point.
No More Excuses
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1409
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:47:00 -
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Aeon, I feel that not being affiliated with a strong corp probably hurt your chances this time around man. I'm still surprised you didn't get more votes but I can see why people might have overlooked you.
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:53:00 -
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who's on the council? |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3672
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:58:00 -
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RayRay James wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all
If it was then how did IWS get reelected, it's not that I dislike him but the general consensus of the dust forums seem to want him out the door
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:00:00 -
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As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11289
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:03:00 -
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SHOOOOTER wrote:As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2506
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:04:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too. who's on the council? and no, I like Ratatti, especially because he isn't snarky. Or at least he isn't as snarky as some other member who was CPM and somehow ended up getting on the council again. Ratatti is nice, cheerful, doesn't raise his voice, or is prone to anger. He makes me feel like Dust has a future.
Oh he expresses irritation openly when people are being chode nuggets, and I love it. Cheerful dude who isn't afraid to tell people to stfu when they're being assholes. Its the same mentality that I have which is basically, "If you're not interested in being constructive, the door is over there" |
RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
305
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:04:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RayRay James wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote: Turned out to be a popularity contest after all
It's High School all over again.... High School Never Ends
Holy $hit, Bowling for Soup. They totally fell off the radar for me shortly after I met them at a winter concert the radio station I worked for hosted. They were really, really cool guys.
/end sidetrack |
Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:08:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Zelda Harkinian wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I will still listen, on the CPM or not. Only if you keep the snarky attitude. That's the #1 one reason I like you. Oh and the Dust balancing stuff is somewhere in there too. who's on the council? and no, I like Ratatti, especially because he isn't snarky. Or at least he isn't as snarky as some other member who was CPM and somehow ended up getting on the council again. Ratatti is nice, cheerful, doesn't raise his voice, or is prone to anger. He makes me feel like Dust has a future. Oh he expresses irritation openly when people are being chode nuggets, and I love it. Cheerful dude who isn't afraid to tell people to stfu when they're being assholes. Its the same mentality that I have which is basically, "If you're not interested in being constructive, the door is over there" oh, ok, now I understand. yeah, I like that about him too. I thought you meant snarky as in making sarcastic remarks or trying to be funny when the situation doesn't call for it... as someone else is prone to doing every now and then. you know of who I mean. |
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SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do.
You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game.
Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads.
I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2506
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:19:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote: oh, ok, now I understand. yeah, I like that about him too. I thought you meant snarky as in making sarcastic remarks or trying to be funny when the situation doesn't call for it... as someone else is prone to doing every now and then. you know of who I mean.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6437
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:19:00 -
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SHOOOOTER wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing.
You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..?
No More Excuses
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SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..?
I would suppose interactive software development, application Programming interface
And what exactly would you be focusing localization on?
You see this is a good example of your bad communication skills. Instead of using terms explain why they are relevant.
Your initial statement in this thread revealed your true intent |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3656
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:37:00 -
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ISD is a program that anyone who's eve listened to Aeon explain or plays Eve Online is aware of.
It's essentially a volunteer force of players who help CCP with things like lore, events, bug tracking, forum moderation and the like.
API would be like crest and is the requisite for 3rd party apps like Dotlan, Dustcharts, Dustboard, and many other websites.
Localization would be like having CCP reps that speak Portuguese to help in customer service, or have dust rendered in their language for when they play.
For instance if you ever see videos from our chinese players they play dust in english because there is no chinese localization.
Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6437
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:37:00 -
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SHOOOOTER wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:As someone who specifically did not vote for you.
I bieleive this post to be a prime example, your views and concerns come across as for more selfish reasons, than to help benefit the whole of the community.
Reading through your views and posts, this was very evident.
Unfortuanatley Sorya whos view and reasoning are also very self serving got on? So I guess you to will have to work together. I don't have enough hands or space on my face for the amount of facepalms that I want to do. You are so right cat Merc, let's make sure we have people on the council who have their own agendas of what they personally want and need out of the game. Similar to your post styles? I see you moan and co plain about items that affect your play style while not considering the effects on other play styles. But continue on. Just because most of us veterans have stopped posting here does not mean we don't read what you guys write and a very few of you are QQ'ing the loudest to have your play styles buffed, just look at the last few mega threads. I used my votes to try to stop this from continuing. You even know what ISD, API, and Localization are..? I would suppose interactive software development, application Programming interface And what exactly would you be focusing localization on? You see this is a good example of your bad communication skills. Instead of using terms, explain why they are relevant. Your initial statement in this thread revealed your true intent
If you'd actually read my campaign thread, or at least looked on google, you might know that ISD stands for Interstellar Services Department. It's a volunteer based department with multiple sections for players who can attribute their skills and abilities for the betterment of the game. Bug Hunting teams, Lore, Media/Reporting, New Player Help... It's an all encompassing system that, while rusty, greatly involves the community...
You're right about API - but I'm willing to bet you don't understand the full capabilities of what it has to offer. Such as unparalleled third-party software development support. Eve Online uses it's API so that you can punch in your API key into a third-party software, and instantly have all your skill levels correctly attributed. It'd be like going to www.protofits.com and not having to manually put in each individual skill level to build a fit. I have an app for my phone that allows me to check my wallet, skills, manufacturing/research jobs, build fits, notify me when my skill is done training...
And Localization? Localization is -LANGUAGE- support. Our Portuguese community currently has to use in-corp translators that have to translate, over and over and over again, each individual line of text in-game just so their new players are able to play the game.
I explained all of this in my campaign thread. My "true intent" was largely to put more power in the hands of the community, something I don't feel I should have had to run for CPM to do.
No More Excuses
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2508
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:44:00 -
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ISDs are really a fantastic tool that needs to be pushed for in the community. We have so many strong groups of people who understand the game VERY well and need to be able to easily work with other talented individuals to put forth highly developed ideas so we can get away from so many 'quick and dirty' fixes.
It's something I'm very interested in being involved in as a member of the community and I really do hope that CPM1 heavily pushes for CCP to not only support, but facilitate in the very near future. |
SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:21:00 -
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So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust.
So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST.
These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
2325
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:28:00 -
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SHOOOOTER wrote:So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust.
So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST.
These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? *wasting *waste their
I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
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SHOOOOTER
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:29:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:SHOOOOTER wrote:So you guys are wanting things that will NEVER be in dust.
So you would be waisting the development teams time who are working on DUST.
These items may be great in LEGION but the chances they would every be in dust are non existent so why waist there time and our community resources on them? *wasting *waste their
Good catch their spell check lady climb in my phone and correct it for me kid. |
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