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calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1791	Posted - 2014.07.25 06:13:00 - [1] - Quote Ok we have all been here or at least I have. Go 18-1 over 1500 WP come in second place, first place was a tanker. My team does not show up at all. I am doing the best I can and wait for it, load screen and WTF 136K ISK and only 3200 SP. Ok so flip the script, now on the team now steam rolling the other team. No one but a few come out of the red line the whole match and wait for it again WTF 160K ISK and just a hair over 4K SP. Ok CCP I give up what is the magic formula for ISK and SP. I cant force my team to play nor the other team so why am I being punished for trying? Seriously this is not funny. Now I know why no one is trying anymore for you get the same ISK and WP just for AFK'ing. So can someone at CCP spill the beans and just tell us already how do you calculate the ISK and SP rewards at the end of the match? Closed Beta Vet and Retired Heavy. Assaults 07
boba's fetta Shining Flame Amarr Empire 776	Posted - 2014.07.25 06:19:00 - [2] - Quote lots of people must die. points must be scored.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16003	Posted - 2014.07.25 06:21:00 - [3] - Quote Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. SP is heavily reliant on time in match. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1791	Posted - 2014.07.25 06:38:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. SP is heavily reliant on time in match. Ok so riddle me this. I was in the whole match I did my job as a clone in the game, so why the hell am I being punished because my team or the other team refuses to play? This is my point I get the whole item destruction and time in game, which I can call BS on because I have destroyed 6 DS and 4 tanks in one match and my ISK payout was just over 260K ISK. The point of the matter is I can AFK and still get the same as if I was in battle. That is my point where is the incentive to even try anymore? Closed Beta Vet and Retired Heavy. Assaults 07
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 1908	Posted - 2014.07.25 06:57:00 - [5] - Quote calvin b wrote: snip Now I know why no one is trying anymore for you get the same ISK and WP just for AFK'ing. I was AFKi-AWOXING Pubs last Winter over the out of control nerfing after we had been promised just that Summer/Fall by the Devs that they were going to be more carful. Part of me wants to do it now just to be a jackass. calvin b wrote: So can someone at CCP spill the beans and just tell us already how do you calculate the ISK and SP rewards at the end of the match? That would invite critique. Nothing gets more messy than economic related values and open math equations to debate it. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 621	Posted - 2014.07.25 08:42:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. You'll just repeat anything you've heard before as if it were fact. If you actually played the game, or could hold yourself upright in this game, then you'd know that statement is entirely false. Run an 80 Clone Ambush. Average length of battle is about 8 minutes. Run a 20 minute long, 150 Clone Domination - Victory by Clone Depletion Look at the difference in payouts. They're about the same, although time in battle and clones are doubled in Domination. Plus, vehicles and Installations are allowed (meaning even more, massive amounts of ISK on the table) The ISK rewarded is not based on what YOU destroyed, either. It is based on what position you ended up at on the final Killfeed, which is WP justified, not Kills or more appropriately, ISK destroyed - because that is what the majority of this game boils down to. System is broke. PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.07.25 08:51:00 - [7] - Quote Please send us a Support Ticket with the exact date and approximate time /EVE time if possible, not your local/ these battles occurred, and we can check this for you. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3667	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:33:00 - [8] - Quote Because you're a gallente Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 173	Posted - 2014.07.25 10:05:00 - [9] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. You'll just repeat anything you've heard before as if it were fact. If you actually played the game, or could hold yourself upright in this game, then you'd know that statement is entirely false. Run an 80 Clone Ambush. Average length of battle is about 8 minutes. Run a 20 minute long, 150 Clone Domination - Victory by Clone Depletion Look at the difference in payouts. They're about the same, although time in battle and clones are doubled in Domination. Plus, vehicles and Installations are allowed (meaning even more, massive amounts of ISK on the table) The ISK rewarded is not based on what YOU destroyed, either. It is based on what position you ended up at on the final Killfeed, which is WP justified, not Kills or more appropriately, ISK destroyed - because that is what the majority of this game boils down to. System is broke. And you throw accusations around while missing important details. Like killing proto getting you more isk, and dying less, and WP itself being the most important factor. CCP, I thought I was going to start liking you again. I really did. Then you announced this event.
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:06:00 - [10] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Please send us a Support Ticket with the exact date and approximate time /EVE time if possible, not your local/ these battles occurred, and we can check this for you. Yeah sure you will. And we will get a response back saying the game is "working as intended" which seems to be you guys favorite catch phrase. Nothing in Dust is ever working as intended but because certain individuals are too lazy to fix actual bugs and glitches (apparently asthetics are more important than game mechanics to this company -_-) that have been plagueing us for months. I just hope that someday the devs will see the light and realize the damn TREES are not as important as they believe them to be. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P

Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:33:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. SP is heavily reliant on time in match. And how could you possibly know how they deal out the winnings when you dont play more than like 3 hours a month. Yeah dude i looked at your life time stats (and your monthly and weekly) and i gotta say you should just stop typing as if you know anything about this game. BTW in case you forgot what your stats were i will remind you WP 723797, KILLS 7026, K/D 1.17 and your kills for this month are 90. Thats it 90 kills for the entire month. -_- you should so not be typing anything at all on the forums let alone typing like you know anything. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:37:00 - [12] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Yeah sure you will. And we will get a response back saying the game is "working as intended" which seems to be you guys favorite catch phrase. Nothing in Dust is ever working as intended but because certain individuals are too lazy to fix actual bugs and glitches (apparently asthetics are more important than game mechanics to this company -_-) that have been plagueing us for months. I just hope that someday the devs will see the light and realize the damn TREES are not as important as they believe them to be. Just trying to help. Sorry, I guess. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:40:00 - [13] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Yeah sure you will. And we will get a response back saying the game is "working as intended" which seems to be you guys favorite catch phrase. Nothing in Dust is ever working as intended but because certain individuals are too lazy to fix actual bugs and glitches (apparently asthetics are more important than game mechanics to this company -_-) that have been plagueing us for months. I just hope that someday the devs will see the light and realize the damn TREES are not as important as they believe them to be. Just trying to help. Sorry, I guess. unless you're a developer you got nothing to apologize for. They are the ones to blame for the crap mechanics (and their love of stupid virtual trees -_-) I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3667	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:46:00 - [14] - Quote Class "A" dipsh*t^ Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:51:00 - [15] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Class "A" dipsht^ Im just being completely honest. And if you dont like it then dont read what i type dipsht. Sick of you damn forum warriors putting in your two cents on a game you dont even play more than a few hours a month. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 732	Posted - 2014.07.25 11:59:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. SP is heavily reliant on time in match. And both are affected by how many WP you gain You might come second with 25 kills and 3 deaths - but the logi that farmed WP on his uplinks and hives and then stood far away in a corner for the rest of the match going 0/0 and made 1500 SP more than you i is getting all you munny. I's no wonder people can't afford to run good stuff, actually playing the game is punished.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 298	Posted - 2014.07.25 12:05:00 - [17] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Class "A" dipsht^ Im just being completely honest. And if you dont like it then dont read what i type dipsht. Sick of you damn forum warriors putting in your two cents on a game you dont even play more than a few hours a month. You don't have to be a d!ck to prove your point though. A GM came into the thread to try and help and you were a total a$$hole to him. Way to make sure they come back and try and help again.
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.07.25 12:11:00 - [18] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Class "A" dipsht^ Im just being completely honest. And if you dont like it then dont read what i type dipsht. Sick of you damn forum warriors putting in your two cents on a game you dont even play more than a few hours a month. You don't have to be a d!ck to prove your point though. A GM came into the thread to try and help and you were a total a$$hole to him. Way to make sure they come back and try and help again. I wasnt being a ** (until you started putting in your forum warrior opinion) i was merely pointing out the truth about putting in a ticket. And like i said before if you dont like what i type then dont read what i type. End of discussion and have a pleasant day I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P**
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 298	Posted - 2014.07.25 12:45:00 - [19] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Class "A" dipsht^ Im just being completely honest. And if you dont like it then dont read what i type dipsht. Sick of you damn forum warriors putting in your two cents on a game you dont even play more than a few hours a month. You don't have to be a d!ck to prove your point though. A GM came into the thread to try and help and you were a total a$$hole to him. Way to make sure they come back and try and help again. I wasnt being a **** (until you started putting in your forum warrior opinion) i was merely pointing out the truth about putting in a ticket. And like i said before if you dont like what i type then dont read what i type. End of discussion and have a pleasant day You have roughly the same likes than me, yet I'm the forum warrior? Forum warriors are in the thousands. Where's that Big Lebowski meme... I know it's around here somewhere.... Ah, there it is
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2248	Posted - 2014.07.25 12:58:00 - [20] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Yeah sure you will. And we will get a response back saying the game is "working as intended" which seems to be you guys favorite catch phrase. Nothing in Dust is ever working as intended but because certain individuals are too lazy to fix actual bugs and glitches (apparently asthetics are more important than game mechanics to this company -_-) that have been plagueing us for months. I just hope that someday the devs will see the light and realize the damn TREES are not as important as they believe them to be. Just trying to help. Sorry, I guess. Leanna, CCP doesn't talk to us often enough as is, please don't **** all over them when they do talk to us, m'kay pumpkin? He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 222	Posted - 2014.07.25 13:04:00 - [21] - Quote Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6721	Posted - 2014.07.25 13:21:00 - [22] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. we all know doing your job on the battlefield is not rewarded see you space cowboy...
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 222	Posted - 2014.07.25 13:34:00 - [23] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. we all know doing your job on the battlefield is not rewarded It is. Kill>hack = money WP guys. Make as much as you can. Edit. Forgot to ask. Calvin you said you get 160k.. how much you spend? You know.. its better to lose 60k and get 160k than get 600k and lose 1-3milions. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6724	Posted - 2014.07.25 14:54:00 - [24] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. we all know doing your job on the battlefield is not rewarded It is. Kill>hack = money WP guys. Make as much as you can. Edit. Forgot to ask. Calvin you said you get 160k.. how much you spend? You know.. its better to lose 60k and get 160k than get 600k and lose 1-3milions. Logistics > Kill I can go 2x - x and still be in 6th place somewhere because a bunch of Logis set up shop on a rooftop somewhere and keep getting WP off each other and their team. see you space cowboy...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2250	Posted - 2014.07.25 14:57:00 - [25] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Logistics > Kill I can go 2x - x and still be in 6th place somewhere because a bunch of Logis set up shop on a rooftop somewhere and keep getting WP off each other and their team. The merc's name escapes me, but I kept getting teamed up with a logi one night that would frequently go 0/1 or 1/0 with 1500 - 2500 WP's. He was doing his job well, and I benefited from his nanohives, but that is INSANE. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 965	Posted - 2014.07.25 15:07:00 - [26] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Stupid virtual trees . Oh , so that's what those gray and green things are . Just can't tell sometimes while looking at all of the other gray and green things , I get confused . The only thing that doesn't confuse me is that loud blue of the Caldari Commando , that's just uninspiring . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 627	Posted - 2014.07.25 15:08:00 - [27] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. Pics... I've never seen a pub payout over 450,000. Most matches, 250,000 is a high number. I hack. I throw Uplinks. I usually have the most Kills on my Team, with at least 20. If there is no Logi support, I'll usually have the top spot on the Killboard - where the payouts are between 150,000 and 200,000. The average Advanced suit is worth 25-70,000 ISK, right? That means that I'm only being rewarded for 3-6 Kills. Time in Battle payout needs to be increased significantly, too. Domination matches last much longer and usually pay the same, if not worse than the other 2 modes. PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 395	Posted - 2014.07.25 15:44:00 - [28] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Last game 600k+ isks. Maybe because im caldari, and CCP loves caldaris. Or i actually done right/hard job on battlefield. Pics... I've never seen a pub payout over 450,000. Most matches, 250,000 is a high number. I hack. I throw Uplinks. I usually have the most Kills on my Team, with at least 20. If there is no Logi support, I'll usually have the top spot on the Killboard - where the payouts are between 150,000 and 200,000. The average Advanced suit is worth 25-70,000 ISK, right? That means that I'm only being rewarded for 3-6 Kills. Time in Battle payout needs to be increased significantly, too. Domination matches last much longer and usually pay the same, if not worse than the other 2 modes. No pics but I've ran logi in a Dom on the Research Lab map and gotten 500,000 - 600,000 several times. But it has to be a good fight and you have to get kills along with your logistical support.

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 225	Posted - 2014.07.25 15:50:00 - [29] - Quote The thing I don't get from this thread is the punishment itself. Where exactly were you punished? Your team not fighting and giving you less opportunities to earn WPs is not a punishment - you can even avoid this by joining a squad /which can also boost your WP total/. Others receiving a higher reward is not a punishment either, their reward is not coming out of your pocket. So...are you saying the 'punishment' is basically receiving a lower reward than you expected? GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 127	Posted - 2014.07.25 15:50:00 - [30] - Quote calvin b wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Isk payouts are determined by value of destruction. SP is heavily reliant on time in match. Ok so riddle me this. I was in the whole match I did my job as a clone in the game, so why the hell am I being punished because my team or the other team refuses to play? This is my point I get the whole item destruction and time in game, which I can call BS on because I have destroyed 6 DS and 4 tanks in one match and my ISK payout was just over 260K ISK. The point of the matter is I can AFK and still get the same as if I was in battle. That is my point where is the incentive to even try anymore? you can't afk because you will be removed from the battle after a set period of time being inactive



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