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Will Driver
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:10:00 -
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CCP, when are you going to nerf the unkillable dropships? You know the ones who run their hardeners nonstop and just camp on hostile spawn point and fire away with impunity.
These are the ones you can't even scare away with proto A/V weapns, they don't even bother to fly away.
Oh wait, you're going to make them cheaper to encourage more of them?
I never understood the strong bias for vehicles in this game, making the completely OP vs. the weapons specifically designed to counter them. It's as if a shotgun did no damage to a Heavy. Or a HMG did no damage to a Scout. Why are vehicles so unbalanced vs. infantry?
GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:18:00 -
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Judge will have your head.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2531
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:23:00 -
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You sir are stupid if you think ADS's are invulnerable.
Tanker/Logi
0 The number of 7ucks given
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
10717
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:27:00 -
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All that needs to happen imo is a cooldown on the Afterburner that actually makes sense.
In it's current state, it removes the risk involved in piloting ADSs.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
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Will Driver
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
149
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:34:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:You sir are stupid if you think ADS's are invulnerable.
Thank goodness I'm good looking.
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GÇò Albert Einstein
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
941
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:43:00 -
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You sir obviously didn't get the memo .
" All you need now are Nova Knives ."
* End of message . *
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2534
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:47:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:You sir are stupid if you think ADS's are invulnerable. Thank goodness I'm good looking.
ADS's AB'ing away is one issue though to achieve a permaharden python you would have to run 3 shield hardeners and at only 40% that's what 3 IAFG shots maybe 4 if it's not moving it's not in the air for long. You've got to have some pretty nice looks.
Tanker/Logi
0 The number of 7ucks given
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
Heiian Conglomerate
584
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:49:00 -
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Anyone remember when a lot of us were begging that CCP buff drop ships? i do
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3643
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:51:00 -
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My forgegun strongly disagrees with the OP. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1129
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:52:00 -
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your hardener nerf has already happened bro.. 2 smart proto SLs was all it took BEFORE the hotfix...
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2552
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:55:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Judge will have your head.
Sharpens his axe...
Judge for CPM 1
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1129
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:56:00 -
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also dont hate the player for camping hate the game.. for two+ ******* years we've btched and moaned for vehicle locks so we could land dropship and do something besides camp but CCP can't implement a real vehicle lock so we camp instead.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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LOBO LOBOS
MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:04:00 -
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Ishukone. Assault. Forge Gun. (vulnerable) |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1129
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:12:00 -
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i am against the price reduction but whatever.. i ranted already about it, not like it will help. the price reduction will pave the way for your nerf to happen.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
677
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:16:00 -
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My basic forge gun can scare away a dropship easily enough... (Just not kill it without help) Why can't you do so with proto? If you're having that much trouble with them, just order another dropship and ram whatever ails you!
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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emm kay
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
134
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:49:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:CCP, when are you going to nerf the unkillable dropships? You know the ones who run their hardeners nonstop and just camp on hostile spawn point and fire away with impunity.
These are the ones you can't even scare away with proto A/V weapns, they don't even bother to fly away.
Oh wait, you're going to make them cheaper to encourage more of them?
I never understood the strong bias for vehicles in this game, making the completely OP vs. the weapons specifically designed to counter them. It's as if a shotgun did no damage to a Heavy. Or a HMG did no damage to a Scout. Why are vehicles so unbalanced vs. infantry?
simplle solution.
get ONE other player to do AV with you.
???
profit!
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5681
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:All that needs to happen imo is a cooldown on the Afterburner that actually makes sense. In it's current state, it removes the risk involved in piloting ADSs.
I wouldn't say it removes the risk, but it allows you to be an extremely slippery, yet harmless, ************.
You can keep up high speed and altitude nonstop, but you aren't going to do any damage that way.
It's like redline sniping with a militia sniper rifle.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3088
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:11:00 -
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This Minmando fit will do 1,800 damage per volley, or 230 against two shield hardeners. This totals a pythons shield in 6 volleys. This fit has a 60 second down time, and a loght booster.
Against 2 armour hardeners it does 777 which requires 5 volleys to total complelty, their is a light repper and has a greater than 1 minuete down time.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5594
The python maybe considered harder to kill, but the lack of passive repair and the lack of an afterburner make it an easy target to the above suit.
Provided you attack from an advantageous position.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3088
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:All that needs to happen imo is a cooldown on the Afterburner that actually makes sense. In it's current state, it removes the risk involved in piloting ADSs.
4 seconds is a long time to get out of dodge when just 1 more hit will kill you.
Something I notice a lot as a pilot, when people think I havean afterburner on ( I don't I just move real good) they stop firing, it's not worth the trouble to them, 1 more hit and I'm dead, but they don't even try.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1718
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:18:00 -
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The only unkillable dropships are the ones that do not take part in the battle (at least for very long). If you manage to keep a dropship away from the fight, whether it's killed or not you've basically beaten it. You don't have to kill it to win, just take it out of the fight. |
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
75
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:20:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:CCP, when are you going to nerf the unkillable dropships? You know the ones who run their hardeners nonstop and just camp on hostile spawn point and fire away with impunity.
These are the ones you can't even scare away with proto A/V weapns, they don't even bother to fly away.
Oh wait, you're going to make them cheaper to encourage more of them?
I never understood the strong bias for vehicles in this game, making the completely OP vs. the weapons specifically designed to counter them. It's as if a shotgun did no damage to a Heavy. Or a HMG did no damage to a Scout. Why are vehicles so unbalanced vs. infantry?
hahahahaha, oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder, ahahahahaha.
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
10724
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:47:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Atiim wrote:All that needs to happen imo is a cooldown on the Afterburner that actually makes sense. In it's current state, it removes the risk involved in piloting ADSs. 4 seconds is a long time to get out of dodge when just 1 more hit will kill you. Something I notice a lot as a pilot, when people think I havean afterburner on ( I don't I just move real good) they stop firing, it's not worth the trouble to them, 1 more hit and I'm dead, but they don't even try.
4s is how long it takes to get completely out of range, and hitting Incubi (or anything other than an HAV for that matter) at about 250m (3.3s) is nearly impossible when a pilot is using evasive maneuvers.
(That's not to say that Pilots shouldn't be using evasive maneuvers to evade fire, however).
Though when you consider the charge time of a Forge Gun (3s at Operation V), that only gives a 1s window of opportunity to have the final shot connect, which is not a long time by any standards.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
10724
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:53:00 -
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Not a bad fit, but you shouldn't be using a RR on a Matari Commando.
If you put a CR on there instead, you'd have an even stronger weapon (due to the bonus), and you'd free enough CPU/PG for an X-3 Quantum Nanohive, as opposed to a basic.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
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bogeyman m
Minmatar Republic
357
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Posted - 2014.07.20 03:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:This Minmando fit will do 1,800 damage per volley, or 230 against two shield hardeners. This totals a pythons shield in 6 volleys. This fit has a 60 second down time, and a loght booster. Against 2 armour hardeners it does 777 which requires 5 volleys to total complelty, their is a light repper and has a greater than 1 minuete down time. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/5594The python maybe considered harder to kill, but the lack of passive repair and the lack of an afterburner make it an easy target to the above suit. Provided you attack from an advantageous position.
Why not a CR instead of a RR to take advantage of the MinMando bonus?
(Edit: didn't see Atiim's post before commenting.)
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos
214
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Posted - 2014.07.20 03:16:00 -
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There's no such thing as unkillable dropships. Unless you try to kill a Viper or Python with a blaster tank. Somehow it doesn't do any damage to them. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
215
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Posted - 2014.07.20 03:20:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:The only unkillable dropships are the ones that do not take part in the battle (at least for very long). If you manage to keep a dropship away from the fight, whether it's killed or not you've basically beaten it. You don't have to kill it to win, just take it out of the fight.
Exactly you may not kill it but one proto forge gun can deny a dropship and help with other vehicles/beam infantry while the dropship is hiding in the clouds repping.
You may not kill them but if they aren't harrassing your team you've done good. The game isn't all about WP and teh killz. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
215
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Posted - 2014.07.20 03:21:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:There's no such thing as unkillable dropships. Unless you try to kill a Viper or Python with a blaster tank. Somehow it doesn't do any damage to them.
Efficiency Range, the Dropship has to be pretty low to the ground for that Blaster to matter. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2167
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Posted - 2014.07.20 04:38:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:CCP, when are you going to nerf the unkillable dropships? You know the ones who run their hardeners nonstop and just camp on hostile spawn point and fire away with impunity.
These are the ones you can't even scare away with proto A/V weapns, they don't even bother to fly away.
Nothing stays put when I'm shooting my damage modded profficiencied IAFG, especially if the pilot is so stupid as to hover and let me hit the dropship engines for ridiculous bonus damage, hardeners be damned.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:All that needs to happen imo is a cooldown on the Afterburner that actually makes sense. In it's current state, it removes the risk involved in piloting ADSs.
You know i have to stay alive for 3 rounds to make any profit. That fast afterburner has saved me 500k countless times, i probably wouldnt be dropshipping wo it. |
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn
Going for the gold
2
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:38:00 -
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ADS's ruining your life? Tired of getting killed again and again by the same pilot? Look no further, the answer to your problems is right here!
Step 1: Get a proto Caldari sentinel suit
Step 2: Fit all high slots with proto heavy weapon damage modifiers
Step 3: Equip Gastun's Forge gun
Step 4: Find a safe position
Step 5: FIRE 
Shotgunner for life.
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