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Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 335	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:10:00 - [1] - Quote You whiny bastards finally got what you wanted didn't you? Well for the love of God, leave us alone now. We already have a hard enough time as it is. You're dead wrong if you think a heavy is invincible and easy mode. We're constantly afraid of rifles. Now we're going to get torn up by Rail Rifles at 50 meters instead of 70. This nerf is gonna make life even harder than it was on the heavy. To quote Rattati, we need to make small changes and observe the results before going too crazy on things. You just had to come on here and QQ "I can't get close enough to a heavy!" You're not SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSE. You're supposed to engage us from range. You shouldn't expect to dance in front of your faces like leprechauns and not get your asses blasted to kingdom come. I can already see the scouts moonwalking 50 meters in front of me and Charlie isn't even out yet. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2830	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:13:00 - [2] - Quote This is how a minja feels
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1538	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:25:00 - [3] - Quote ITs not even a nerf....its be like nerfing scouts by giving them 10 less melee damage. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 546	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:31:00 - [4] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITs not even a nerf....its be like nerfing scouts by giving them 10 less melee damage. Looks like we're going to have to sharpen our NK Gav...things are going to get messy after this hotfix. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4208	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:39:00 - [5] - Quote As if you couldn't use an HMG Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:47:00 - [6] - Quote all of you will burn in hell DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4209	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:49:00 - [7] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: all of you will burn in hell No such thing. You shall be reincarnated as a slug in your next life, followed by a hungry ghost. Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2511	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:07:00 - [8] - Quote I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
iKILLu osborne Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 82	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:16:00 - [9] - Quote if you want to see a heavy **** his dropsuit come at him with a plasma cannon cal scout when you have high ground lol its funny watching those fat chops throwing sparks trying to run away here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1541	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:16:00 - [10] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. What about brick tanked scounts? You need all of that 5000 damage to kill them "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand

Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:17:00 - [11] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. Did I even complain about it? No. Go back and read. I complained about the range nerf. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:18:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. What about brick tanked scounts? You need all of that 5000 damage to kill them Putting words in my mouth just makes both of you look like douchebags. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1544	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:22:00 - [13] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. What about brick tanked scounts? You need all of that 5000 damage to kill them Putting words in my mouth just makes both of you look like douchebags. LOL i wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was attempting to create humor by mimicking a ridiculous statement similar to that of several heavies I have seen before. It was a joke, you didn't get it, and you ruined it. Nice. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2513	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:23:00 - [14] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. Did I even complain about it? No. Go back and read. I complained about the range nerf. What range nerf? CCP Rattati wrote: Only heat increase. That was Rattati's reply to a thread asking for another snerf.light Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4215	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:24:00 - [15] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: You just had to come on here and QQ "I can't get close enough to a heavy!" You're not SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSE. You're supposed to engage us from range. That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1544	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:28:00 - [16] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: You just had to come on here and QQ "I can't get close enough to a heavy!" You're not SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSE. You're supposed to engage us from range. That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. Or even worse, a plasma rifle "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:31:00 - [17] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1549	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:34:00 - [18] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: ITs not even a nerf....its be like nerfing scouts by giving them 10 less melee damage. Looks like we're going to have to sharpen our NK Gav...things are going to get messy after this hotfix. Things got messy a long time ago (1.8) Its our noble job to keep Dust clean "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10661	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:34:00 - [19] - Quote Didn't read; Sentinel tears delicious. And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1549	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:35:00 - [20] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. Front flank? Thats an oxymoron. Learn words before you use them. Flank=side (as in not front or back) Name one such "REAL scout." Im pretty sure the problem here is you, not the "underpowered heavy". "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand

Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10662	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:39:00 - [21] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. Scouts strafe in-front of you and manage to kill you while your using a 700+ DPS weapon? And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:43:00 - [22] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: What range nerf? CCP Rattati wrote: Only heat increase. That was Rattati's reply to a thread asking for another snerf.light Shows how much you heavy nerf QQers know. Rattati wrote: Additionally, range progression has been removed from all HMGs, and they now all have an optimal of 31.5m with an effective range of 52.5m (matching the advanced HMG). Assault variants still continue to have longer range than Base and Burst HMGs. Check your floated threads. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:44:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. Scouts strafe in-front of you and manage to kill you while your using a 700+ DPS weapon? You're missing the point, Attim. Now they will! DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2516	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:45:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. Scouts strafe in-front of you and manage to kill you while your using a 700+ DPS weapon? According to Proto fits the DPS of a Boundless Heavy Machine Gun is 910.8 Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1550	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:45:00 - [25] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: What range nerf? CCP Rattati wrote: Only heat increase. That was Rattati's reply to a thread asking for another snerf.light Shows how much you heavy nerf QQers know. Rattati wrote: Additionally, range progression has been removed from all HMGs, and they now all have an optimal of 31.5m with an effective range of 52.5m (matching the advanced HMG). Assault variants still continue to have longer range than Base and Burst HMGs. Check your floated threads. So basically you're telling me that the ADV HMG is receiving no nerf/buff, and the STD is getting buffed, and you're complaining? You don't need above a basic HMG to kill an entire squad in 5 seconds. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1550	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:46:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That's asinine that's like saying that anyone with a shotgun shouldn't even try. No it's asinine to think you can waltz right up to them from their front flank. REAL scouts have absolutely NO PROBLEM flanking and killing us. Scouts strafe in-front of you and manage to kill you while your using a 700+ DPS weapon? Nurf scount naow it kil my hevy soot "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10662	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:48:00 - [27] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: You're missing the point, Attim. Now they will! No, they won't. Assuming they're using Shotguns or Nova Knives, you'll still both out-range and out-DPS them, and if they're using a rifle, then you should blame yourself for being outside of your niche. The only thing that affects your ability to kill Scouts in CQC is the heat reduction, and honestly if you can't kill a Scout in >150 rounds, then you should probably take Benjamin's advice. And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1551	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:50:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: You're missing the point, Attim. Now they will! No, they won't. Assuming they're using Shotguns or Nova Knives, you'll still both out-range and out-DPS them, and if they're using a rifle, then you should blame yourself for being outside of your niche. The only thing that affects your ability to kill Scouts in CQC is the heat reduction, and honestly if you can't kill a Scout in >150 rounds, then you should probably take Benjamin's advice. You have more than 7 seconds of 800+ DPS death ray available to kill a 400 HP suit.... .5 seconds of hitting them and you're good. Thats like just passing your reticle through them "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2517	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:52:00 - [29] - Quote Even if a Minmatar assault were to use a Six Kin ACR and not miss a shot he would still have to reload against a stacked Gal Heavy. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:52:00 - [30] - Quote Yeah because 30 to 50 meters is CQC. Go **** yourselves. Literally the only way to defend ourselves from some jackass with a rifle who wants to stare us down from a stone's throw range will be not to engage them at all. This is just squeezing the heavy into a tighter box than he's already in, and it's not right for you people who don't even play a heavy full-time to harp on us like this. Have fun defending yourself against enemy scout SPAM (oh no, that's not a word used just for heavies?) when your heavies are getting slaughtered by no-scoped Rail Rfles. Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1556	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:01:00 - [31] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Yeah because 30 to 50 meters is CQC. Go **** yourselves. Literally the only way to defend ourselves from some jackass with a rifle who wants to stare us down from a stone's throw range will be not to engage them at all. This is just squeezing the heavy into a tighter box than he's already in, and it's not right for you people who don't even play a heavy full-time to harp on us like this. Have fun defending yourself against enemy scout SPAM (oh no, that's not a word used just for heavies?) when your heavies are getting slaughtered by no-scoped Rail Rfles. YOU GET KILLED BY A RR IN CQC......you have lost all validity at this point, Im sorry. Abandon thread, try again, and make sure you know what the word's that you are using mean. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2520	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:02:00 - [32] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Yeah because 30 to 50 meters is CQC. Go **** yourselves. Literally the only way to defend ourselves from some jackass with a rifle who wants to stare us down from a stone's throw range will be not to engage them at all. This is just squeezing the heavy into a tighter box than he's already in, and it's not right for you people who don't even play a heavy full-time to harp on us like this. Have fun defending yourself against enemy scout SPAM (oh no, that's not a word used just for heavies?) when your heavies are getting slaughtered by no-scoped Rail Rfles. I've been running assaults for a very long time now and while I did briefly skill out of them to proto out my logi so that I could have a useful non FoTM role I will have enough SP to take my mini assault to Proto by Sunday night at the latest and will enjoy wrecking scouts if properly buffed in Charlie and it's not like scouts aren't being spammed like crazy already. If he's a stones throw away I'd say you either have one good arm or he's in CQC. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10668	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:04:00 - [33] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Yeah because 30 to 50 meters is CQC. Go ** yourselves. Literally the only way to defend ourselves from some jackass with a rifle who wants to stare us down from a stone's throw range will be not to engage them at all. That's ironic. The only way for someone without a Shotgun, Boundless RE, or Nova Knives against an HMG is to not engage them at all. Why must everyone here conform to double standards? Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: This is just squeezing the heavy into a tighter box than he's already in, and it's not right for you people who don't even play a heavy full-time to harp on us like this. No, it's only making it to where you have to actually worry about overheating. Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:** Have fun defending yourself against enemy scout SPAM (oh no, that's not a word used just for heavies?) when your heavies are getting slaughtered by no-scoped Rail Rfles. If you get killed by someone with a no-scoped RR in Mid-Long range, you need to uninstall DUST. If you get killed by someone with a no-scoped RR in CQC while using an HMG, you need to uninstall DUST. And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:09:00 - [34] - Quote Go back and cry to your mothers. I'm done babysitting the lot of you. Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4219	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:10:00 - [35] - Quote You act as if heavies didn't deserve the nerf..... I'm a scout and admit that scouts have issues but you're a heavy and won't admit that heavies are a problem. Don't start a thread you can't finish, you're the only one whining here. Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1558	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:10:00 - [36] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Go back and cry to your mothers. I'm done babysitting the lot of you. He listened!! "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10674	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:11:00 - [37] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Go back and cry to your mothers. I'm done babysitting the lot of you. Cry would imply that we're complaining about something, while that is not the case. You, on the other hand... And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3813	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:54:00 - [38] - Quote 0/10. Would not bother counter-trolling. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Alena Ventrallis S0VER31GN 1462	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:00:00 - [39] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I spoke with one of the best active heavies and he told me you could fire almost 400 rounds before overheat even if it was a 25% reduction if you can't kill an opponent in 250ish rounds you should re-evaluate your skill. Did I even complain about it? No. Go back and read. I complained about the range nerf. So you're mad that a close range weapon is now close range? Rattati has spoken. CalScout hitbox is fine. You're gun game is broken.
taxi bastard jihad taxi co. 156	Posted - 2014.07.19 07:45:00 - [40] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: You whiny bastards finally got what you wanted didn't you? Well for the love of God, leave us alone now. We already have a hard enough time as it is. You're dead wrong if you think a heavy is invincible and easy mode. We're constantly afraid of rifles. Now we're going to get torn up by Rail Rifles at 50 meters instead of 70. This nerf is gonna make life even harder than it was on the heavy. To quote Rattati, we need to make small changes and observe the results before going too crazy on things. You just had to come on here and QQ "I can't get close enough to a heavy!" You're not SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSE. You're supposed to engage us from range. You shouldn't expect to dance in front of your faces like leprechauns and not get your asses blasted to kingdom come. I can already see the scouts moonwalking 50 meters in front of me and Charlie isn't even out yet. i am can't figure out if this is a troll post, i hope it is

Defy Gravity 449	Posted - 2014.07.19 08:06:00 - [41] - Quote And this is an example of the dust community in a nutshell. smh i'm going back to the destiny forums If I kill you in game, look for a confirmation that says "I Just Killed You"

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4544	Posted - 2014.07.19 10:29:00 - [42] - Quote Definitely not sure if trolling, but let's get the facts straight. Effective range is being reduced on the proto HMG by 2.5m, ADV stays the same, and STD is buffed by 2.5m. Just like what was done with many rifles in Bravo, i.e. eliminating tiered range progression. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 347	Posted - 2014.07.19 10:41:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Definitely not sure if trolling, but let's get the facts straight. Effective range is being reduced on the proto HMG by 2.5m, ADV stays the same, and STD is buffed by 2.5m. Just like what was done with many rifles in Bravo, i.e. eliminating tiered range progression. .... I think I was confusing optimal range with effective range the whole time, and effective range with absolute range. This is what happens when you stop playing the game for a couple weeks. You come back and everything is so complicated and confusing... I even had the wrong numbers in my head. I was confusing the Assault's range with the regular HMG. Sorry everyone... this thread was a mistake on my part. Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.
Defy Gravity 450	Posted - 2014.07.19 12:22:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Definitely not sure if trolling, but let's get the facts straight. Effective range is being reduced on the proto HMG by 2.5m, ADV stays the same, and STD is buffed by 2.5m. Just like what was done with many rifles in Bravo, i.e. eliminating tiered range progression. So STD is better than proto? WHAT HOW IS THAT BALANCE If I kill you in game, look for a confirmation that says "I Just Killed You"
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 353	Posted - 2014.07.19 13:13:00 - [45] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Definitely not sure if trolling, but let's get the facts straight. Effective range is being reduced on the proto HMG by 2.5m, ADV stays the same, and STD is buffed by 2.5m. Just like what was done with many rifles in Bravo, i.e. eliminating tiered range progression. So STD is better than proto? WHAT HOW IS THAT BALANCE no he's making them all the same derp i keel you


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