Agreed. +1

But not too slow, or the gun will be garbage.
They overdid the RoF reduction for the ScP.

EDIT - You'll notice from the video that turbo also seems to decrease heat build up. The player gets 18 shots off with turbo and 16 without. This is the opposite of how it should work - more shots per second should mean more heat build up. Probably it is a result of the extremely high RoF breaking the intended heat build up mechanics. If so, a lower RoF would deal with the heat build up issue as well as the DPS issue.

isnt the scramblers dps that high because it has less than half the endurance of other weapons and what about the combat rifle or the plasma rifle with an auto fire controller, arnt they just as bad?

Like the Laser Rifle, the Scrambler Rifle's heat sink is based on "Heat Cost per Second"; as opposed to "Heat Cost per Shot" like the 20/80GJ Railguns.

How long it takes you to overheat is completely dependent on how fast you can spam R1,

with 18 shots thats still only 1.5 seconds of sustained fire with a hefty lockup afterwards, even with an autofire pad i still dont see a problem.

if it could sustain fire for as long as an plasma rifle then it would be op

18 shots is 1287HP, which is plenty.

The rate of fire on the ScR is 705.9RPM. This is beyond human limitations and only achievable using a turbo controller or mouse macros. See video here for demonstration (credit to Boba's Fett of Dead Man's Game).

Turbo makes the scrambler a 800DPS fully automatic long range rifle, an absurdly overpowered weapon. It makes a mockery of otherwise effective recent attempts to achieve a DPS/range trade-off - it has near twice the DPS and range of an AR, for instance.

I suggest that you remove this exploit by bringing the ScR RoF down to humanly achievable levels. Somewhere around 500RPM would remove the turbo controller advantage without impacting non-turbo users, as they can not exceed this RoF anyway. For more discussion see here.

EDIT - You'll notice from the video that turbo also seems to decrease heat build up. The player gets 18 shots off with turbo and 16 without. A lower RoF would probably deal with the heat build up issue as well as the DPS issue.

I wish they buffed the RoF for the ScP, I specced into it recently and I see the flaws....

For the sidearm changes; Ion pistol needs more damage and ScP needs more RoF

I wish they buffed the RoF for the ScP, I specced into it recently and I see the flaws....

For the sidearm changes; Ion pistol needs more damage and ScP needs more RoF

why would you want a full auto ScR that over heats?

Maybe because it does more shots before overheat than the non-exploit (semi-auto) version? While doing double the DPS of equivalent weapons?

Still waiting for those blue tags...

if doing 1287 damage over the time it takes to discharge 18 rounds and then wait for lockup to finish or cool down, takes about 5 or 6 seconds i dont think u will get blue tags.

if all you look at is the dps then yes it does look op, over the course of 5 to 6 seconds however its lower than the other rifles.

since its all i use i am biased :) so peace

Reducing RPM to 500-550 will only make a difference to you if you use a turbo controller. In testing a while back Rei Shepard, an expert ScR user (as anyone who's played him can attest), was able to achieve 495RPM using a mouse; other users report maximum fire rates as low as 300RPM. There really is no reason for ScR users who don't use turbo to object to 500-550 RPM

im still searching the market for that full auto shotgun
cant seem to find it though.
but i die to it at least once a week

Like the Laser Rifle, the Scrambler Rifle's heat sink is based on "Heat Cost per Second"; as opposed to "Heat Cost per Shot" like the 20/80GJ Railguns.

How long it takes you to overheat is completely dependent on how fast you can spam R1,

As a note, I've tested out the turbo style triggers on many weapons.

-Scrambler is the biggest culprit in receiving a huge benefit from it.
-The Assault Rifle will outperform many other rifles using a turbo trigger because there is no kick or dispersion at it's extreme range and thus it kills faster.
-The combat rifle receives the least benefit as the higher rate of fire was already accounted for in it's design by the lower damage per round, so most of it's benefit is less kick/recoil based.
-The SMG benefits mainly from receiving less kick.
-the HMG benefit slightly from less kick, but it benefits significantly from less heat buildup.
-The small and heavy blasters turrets do benefit. They don't get a significant increase in rate of fire, but they do benefit from less heat build up.

The rail rifle does not benefit from this because it has a "charge up" time and will not function with most turbo triggers. I say this as a point of example for how to design a way to defeat the turbo trigger if such is desired at all.

But I must point out one more thing. In a world where many people that play games could have physical handicaps, things like turbo trigger mechanisms, being able to remap buttons or keys, using devices like mouse and keyboard, are what allow them to play at all. Solely looking at some of these things as "cheater" devices is WRONG. They are just a different interface. And since God did not create everyone equal, not everyone can use the same control pad as well as another person. (Especially since all game console control pads were made to dimension suited for children and NOT adults.)