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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:21:00 -
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I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:25:00 -
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Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips*
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:26:00 -
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Fit precision enhancers, you'll still pick up quite a bit.
Also, don't underestimate the importance of scanning range.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
824
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:26:00 -
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what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:28:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Fit precision enhancers, you'll still pick up quite a bit.
Also, don't underestimate the importance of scanning range.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2911
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:29:00 -
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Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:31:00 -
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LoL @ wallhack
PSN: ogamega
I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:32:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden!
Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+Ąth credron. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2911
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:44:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+Ąth credron.
Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames.
If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector.
If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs.
If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back.
In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
165
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:54:00 -
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I run a pure eWar ADV fitout on a Min scout. It still shines and a breach shotgun is fun to use.
That's about 200eHP total. It's about patience, surprise and adrenaline.
8m extra plus multipliers is a nifty bonus and each meter increases total volume and gives that couple extra seconds to avoid/trap opponents.
You can still hunt scouts, most of them are ex assaults equipped for war not eWar.
Not One Lifetime
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:56:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+Ąth credron. Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames. If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector. If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs. If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back. In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable.
As most High sp players everyone have multiple suit + vehs. But theres always favorite one.
So lest start. That hit decection does not exist. Every cal scout dies at same easy way. Without problem. After kill smart people shoot 1 more time to destroy clone.
You damp i cant scan you so it will be who will be smarter, who will see firts and map. Mostyl map. If its town SG wins. If its open terain i'll eqiup CR.
Heavy with logi? No big deal. Take down logi while you look somewehere elese. Then fast kill you. Or rush with remotes.
Whats next scenario? |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:58:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:I run a pure eWar ADV fitout on a Min scout. It still shines and a breach shotgun is fun to use.
That's about 200eHP total. It's about patience, surprise and adrenaline.
8m extra plus multipliers is a nifty bonus and each meter increases total volume and gives that couple extra seconds to avoid/trap opponents.
You can still hunt scouts, most of them are ex assaults equipped for war not eWar.
I dont care about tanked units. They are easiest to kill. Im talk+Ąg about competitives scouts/players. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
954
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:41:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
and prior to the Calscout changes there were people who skilled into other things that were OP, you went FOTM, now the month has changed.
Because, that's why.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:44:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... and prior to the Calscout changes there were people who skilled into other things that were OP, you went FOTM, now the month has changed.
I went for it to scan. It wasnt fotm. Gal was.
So youre calling good stuff fotm?
Ok so heavies,hmg,scouts,cr,scr, evertything is fotm because they are often usen and good? |
jNs Vit4l
THE 300 SPARTANS
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:48:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
yeah it is unfair man.. hopefully wwe will get our cal light frames / cal scout suits SP back in a respec because this is b******* we all speced into cal scouts for the precision now precision is going over to the ammar scout, ok i understand just give me my freaking SP back to choose another role!!
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1494
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips*
minmatar approves this message
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips*
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
850
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:05:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment.
Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a low slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:05:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
Welcome to the World of CCP and CPMs like IWS... LOL
First you have gal scouts : Best dampened scouts... Best asualt suit... Best brick tanked suit...
Counter, Cal Scout: best scanner in game, but with a price of very low HP
Min scout: Fastest
Amar Scout: useless sort of
now with the new bonus, Amar scout would be superior to Cal scout for Combat situations. Extra HP and armor...
CCP please don't nerf the other thing trying to buff something else... or else giver the ck0 and extra low slot, to be relevant... |
Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
850
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:07:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... and prior to the Calscout changes there were people who skilled into other things that were OP, you went FOTM, now the month has changed.
My problem with that logic is, I didn't go FoTM, I went scan scout.
All I ask is to have my SP from Cal Scouts into Amarr Scouts...
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:08:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a low slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it.
OP suit ?! What kills you the Most ?! Gal Shottys...
To make a cal scout the ultimate Hunter you'd need:
2 or 3 Complex PE
2 or 1 Complex RA and Dampener combo (if you are a good shooter and dont mind being spotted)
How much HP are you left with ?!
89 Armor and about 200-300 Shields...
OP?! Right....
How much EHP does most Gal scouts have ?!
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
851
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:11:00 -
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Honestly, I'm not even mad about the scouts... it's the fact that CCP is ignoring that fact that heavies are ridiculously broken that rustles my jimmies.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
52
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:12:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
OHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS CALD SLAYER TEARS YUMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
Justice Prevails
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:14:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips* minmatar approves this message
Hides under bed with RR in the fetal position. "Don't you touch my baby. You BAST*RDS!"
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:17:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... OHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS CALD SLAYER TEARS YUMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I'm quite sure cal slayers have 2-3 other Proto Suits... They chose to go Cal Scout to combat Gal Scouts... Try going into match vs gal+min scouts without having any cal scouts on your side... lol Then only you will realise how "OP/UP" Cal scout is... FML! lol |
headbust
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
56
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:18:00 -
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lol at least u got 8 extra meters when the gal scout was nerfed we only get 1 meter of extra range at level 5 so u had it coming u guys complaining about the gal scout got us nerfed and now everyone is against cal scouts now. so this is hilarious.
a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:31:00 -
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At this rate... Two months later we would see cal scout getting dampening bonus and gal scout getting scanning Bonus.. CCP catering to cry babies again... When i saw hot fix A and B i was a bit hopeful... But now they are probably getting the ideas from the likes of IWS... He probably got his face plastered by Amar logi + Assault SMG and he couldn't hide his cloaked commando from a cal scout lol |
aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips*
We will still out perform that piece of plasma **** you call a rifle. |
aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:38:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a low slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it. OP suit ?! What kills you the Most ?! Gal Shottys... To make a cal scout the ultimate Hunter you'd need: 2 or 3 Complex PE 2 or 1 Complex RA and Dampener combo (if you are a good shooter and dont mind being spotted) How much HP are you left with ?! 89 Armor and about 200-300 Shields... OP?! Right.... How much EHP does most Gal scouts have ?!
500 and up. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1881
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:47:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a low slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it. OP suit ?! What kills you the Most ?! Gal Shottys... To make a cal scout the ultimate Hunter you'd need: 2 or 3 Complex PE 2 or 1 Complex RA and Dampener combo (if you are a good shooter and dont mind being spotted) How much HP are you left with ?! 89 Armor and about 200-300 Shields... OP?! Right.... How much EHP does most Gal scouts have ?! 500 and up.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2057
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:55:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+Ąth credron. Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames. If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector. If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs. If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back. In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable.
Sadly, from what I've seen, too few people subscribe to this belief.
@OP
SIUB and STFU with the whining.
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6061
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:55:00 -
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I love how this thread has turned into a suit v suit hate thread. Pathetic really.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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axINVICTUSxa
DETHDEALERS
RISE of LEGION
182
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:11:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote: It was my decisions and it was taken .
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
Hmm, two latency errors here.
1) This is your decision so now that your decision ends up wrong you QQ about it? Sounds mature. One should take the consequence for their actions, shouldn't they? Same way you enter into a world of success at a risk, you run the risk and take the fall should the risk end up in a negative result for you.
2) Life ISN'T fair. This is a mercenary world, where cutthroats kill cutthroats--a dog eat dog world. You see, the best mercs don't need FoTM weapons to be good. We've had REAL scouts who've been running shotgun and sniper way before scouts got buffed, we have pro-Assaults who actually get their job done, and so forth. Just because you've been relying on your little FoTM niche and have not bothered developing the greatest resource--human capital and thus yourself--and it has fallen down to the earth you have to QQ about it and whine how it is unfair.
You see if you are skilled at something stats don't make a difference. So many people fail to recognize it isn't a gun that makes you OP, it is your brain. The greatest difference from the great and the bottom of the barrel is that one group uses their brain more than the other.
Again, maybe you can see the difference between a third-rate merc and a first-rate merc.
I would be second-rate, personally, since I'm not the very top but usually end up within the top 5 in each game's leaderboards, if not top 3.
Wherever the Wind (Aero) might take me, may it ever be True, for the way of the Commando is noble and right.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10820
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:31:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I love how this thread has turned into a suit v suit hate thread. Pathetic really.
But...
But...
Caldari tears are the most delicious!
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2457
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:41:00 -
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I also speced into Cal Scout for scout hunting, to lvl 4, prior to Alpha.
Once Alpha hit, and cloak dampening went away, and it became lets share our scans with lots of heavies so they can wreck stuff, forget that.
That suit was so OP I refused to use it. Now at least I can maybe use the suit without hating myself.
It needed to be done, Amarr needed a role and Caldari are better off with range and no precision than precision and no range.
This is how a minja feels
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6063
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I love how this thread has turned into a suit v suit hate thread. Pathetic really. But... But... Caldari tears are the most delicious!
They ain't got no eyes!
How can their tears be real when their eyes aren't real?
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2093
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:45:00 -
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I specced into Cal Scout specifically for the scan range, high shield regen and speed, which is a phenomenal combination with the Rail Rifle for extreme-range slaying, so I'm okay.
*shrugs*
If anything, if they remove the precision bonus I hope they rebuff the range bonus for Cal Scouts.
Poor Amarr buggers needed a real bonus anyways.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1286
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:51:00 -
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I love scouts that think they are invisible.
I WILL FORGE SNIPE YOU FROM 300 METERS AWAY SON!
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or you will sneak up to me and blast my head off with a shotgun or remotes....either way fun will be had!
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1163
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:56:00 -
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Pair a passive scanning cal scout with a few slayers in a squad, and you have the makings of a successful round. The cal scout is likely going to die a lot because of the low effective HP, but those passive scans are priceless, IMO.
I've been a cal scout since the introduction of the cloak, FWIW. |
Guiltless D667
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:25:00 -
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Where did you come across this source of information?Details please. It wouldnt make sense to take the precision away from the cal scout seeing as it's the anti gal and their styles are inverse of each other so i highly doubt it.
A Strange Game.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2170
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:30:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
The scout nerfs where coming and have been coming for the last 3 months. Don't worry there will be more knowing this community.
This is the history of the scout.
Last time they where buffed they left such a long lasting sour memory it stayed that way for nearly a year.
This is why nearly every scout has gone and got a Sentinel proto suit. We have to protect ourselves from the morons on the forums who would rather nerf..
Then buff things.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
11
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:38:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I love how this thread has turned into a suit v suit hate thread. Pathetic really. Exactly moody. In general I believe if the skills are drastically changed of a certain suit one deserves a respec. i skilled in the Cal scout for its precision to pick up the good Gal scout players. Read players not suit. If this changes, I dont have the suit I put my sp in so a respec is in place. Same goes for Amarr logi players, they skilled into that suit because it has a sidearm. Take that away and they dont have what the specifically skilled into, so a respec is in place. Lets not hate on suits, try to be realistic about it.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10823
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:42:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I love how this thread has turned into a suit v suit hate thread. Pathetic really. But... But... Caldari tears are the most delicious! They ain't got no eyes! How can their tears be real when their eyes aren't real?
That's why we extract them directly!
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
10370
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Posted - 2014.07.11 16:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
You mean you can't have an 80m wallhack that's unavoidable by about 95% of the suits in the game?
Oh, you poor, poor baby. 
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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M1tch Rapp
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
151
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:13:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a high slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it.
Yeah, after 1.8 hit the Gal Scout was the OP suit. People went Cal Scout in response to getting shot in the back of the head with a shotgun 10x a game.
I hardly ever use my Cal Scout, but the first time I get killed by a SG, I break it out for the passive scans.
I think everytime someone says FOTM in a post (after mine of course) they should get hit in the face with a 2x4. What do people expect? If something is good you are a damn fool for not specing into it.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
11
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You mean you can't have an 80m wallhack that's unavoidable by about 95% of the suits in the game? Oh, you poor, poor baby.
It can go through walls?
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
149
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:37:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Atiim wrote:You mean you can't have an 80m wallhack that's unavoidable by about 95% of the suits in the game? Oh, you poor, poor baby. It can go through walls?
...if you needed to have line of sight to something to scan it, scanning wouldn't be particularly useful, would it? |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1271
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:44:00 -
[48] - Quote
you still have a broken hit box, stop crying
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
215
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
What a sad thread.
TOXIC 514
Have a great day everyone! It's 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas. I love it.
Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
889
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:23:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a high slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it.
You just said what I've been say for a while now .
Best Assault scout is Amarr and Gal hands down , stamina and stacking compared to not being able to tank at all and having to sacrifice so much from one's self to be functional because trying to just flat out assault , will leave you flat out dead .
You have to place rangers , amps and dampeners on that suit to be efficient unless your using proto and still even so .
You just can't slug it out in a Cal scout and if you do your using SG's and CR's and that says a lot right there .
A lot specked into that role to see and that's it but it seems like that's a problem to most but it's not a problem to dampen to be invisible and still be able to self-rep and tank some what and choose rangers so you can see if you choose to use Gal and Amarr or kin cats if you want to sprint fast .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
889
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:25:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:What a sad thread.
TOXIC 514
Have a great day everyone! It's 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas. I love it.
It's always hot down south .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
193
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:57:00 -
[52] - Quote
You have 5 highs to stack scans in, your whining doesn't even make sense. Hunt scouts til your heart's content. But do so with no shields.
Haaaave fun!
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
215
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Posted - 2014.07.11 19:36:00 -
[53] - Quote
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:What a sad thread.
TOXIC 514
Have a great day everyone! It's 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas. I love it.
It's always hot down south .
Actually it's only hot in Texas in the summer. Quite mild otherwise. Except January. Then it's cold.
In the southern hemisphere it's cold down south. Except January.
Have a great hot day!
Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
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Grimmiers
626
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Posted - 2014.07.11 19:43:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:medomai grey wrote:Fit precision enhancers, you'll still pick up quite a bit.
Also, don't underestimate the importance of scanning range. 4 Enchancers to find scout with 2damps... For what will i use that range if i cant see these who i want at start... Its like you can scan at 100m but hey, you cant see them and these too.
Sounds balanced actually. You can hope that they'll either give out respec, or that more assault suits will be on the field after they're buffed. Ccp has let too many playstyles have their cake and eat it too and now all scouts can have a viable and tweakable role.
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
770
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:03:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment.
No, I skilled the Cal scout because it was the only thing that coukd shut down ALL the cloaked scouts at the time, and still the only suit that stands an ewar chance against the Gal.
This change is only going to be good for the Amarr and Gal scouts. The Amarr scout is going to be a worse 'OP' suit for everyone above 18db because it has better base stats that the Cal (except that pimpass shield regen) and more lows to stack dampeners, plates, range amps, kinkats, etc. This will put the Gal scout back in the invisible with only 2 complex dampeners instead of the 3 it would need to get away from the Cal because the Amarr only has two highs.
Mark my words, your going to miss having the Cal scout hunters around, because now nothing is going to keep the Gal Scout in check, and the Amarr is going to be worse to deal with for everyone else.
Amarr scout here I come!
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
2334
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:05:00 -
[56] - Quote
Caldari Scout lol
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
CEO/ Killing Clones Since Uprising 1.2/ ADV Omni Soldier/ Forum King/
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
837
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:18:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:what really happened is you put your SP into the most OP suit in the game thinking it would make you a badass and now they are nerfing the suit. next time be more wise with your SP investment. Well, I specced into the Cal Scout before anyone knew it was "op". I skilled into it because I liked the idea of being able to see everyone on the field, even if that means sacrificing a high slot or two for precision mods. Honestly, the scans are the only thing the Cal Scout had going for it. come on now we have skilled into something then it was changed or nerfed that the life of a dust merc this is nothing new adapt or die.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Arcturis Vanguard
Red Star.
EoN.
168
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:25:00 -
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What kind of percentage will the amarr scout have for precision? What is going to stop the amarr scout from being just as strong as the caldari scout pre Charlie hotfix with shared scans? Seems to me with all those low slots range amps stacked would put the amarr far superior to the caldari scout.
I'm sorry but all ewar bonuses should be applied as efficiency bonuses to modules not passively gained. Without efficiency bonuses you start allowing light frames to encroach into medium frame ehp territory and allow them to far exceed the capability of the other class due to heightened ewar, speed and smaller hitbox.
I don't mind balancing because this game needs it. It just needs to be balanced appropriately so there isn't this endless cycle we have now.
Amarr Heavy V
Amarr Assault V
Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
Prof IV CR, SMG
Prof III ScR
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2177
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:38:00 -
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It's funny cuz stamina was to crappy of a buff for amarr scouts.... like EVERYONE said.
But then you get to thinking.. what would you give them for another unique bonus? Speed? no that's Minmatar.. Make it slower and tanky? no that's kinda Gallente and anymore becomes assault territory..
So what do you do with an Amarr scout for bonuses that is actually "Scouty" and Amarr-ish.
I Said long ago the Amarr scout should get a Heat build up bonus. The Amarr scout should of been the mid-long range "ganking" scout..
The decloak with a SCR charging bam bam see you later.... The fast mobile mid range LR user...
This recycling stats that frankly doesn't even belong on an Amarr race at all in New Eden Lore.... Caldari are the Ew specialists... Gallente just behind in technology/..
Amarr? steal capacitor.. and disrupt tracking. makes no sense why they are DUST Electronic warfare specialists all of a sudden just for the lack of imagination in balancing it.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3222
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:51:00 -
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It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected.
Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz
Removed all hope with this post
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2179
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:55:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected.
Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz
First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along?
Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat.
It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already).
I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3223
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:11:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected.
Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along? Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat. It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already). I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults.
Me? I have nothing amarr
Removed all hope with this post
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Cheydinhal Guard
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
126
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:43:00 -
[63] - Quote
Lol i never understood the QQ behind the CalScout, mostly because i never took it to proto. I don't even care about the nerf anymore. Everyone loves to jump on the "nerf Caldari" bandwagon. Kinda sad, really.
You filthy amarr, with your golden guns and your sparkling merc quarters....Curse you..
GalLogi to the end
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
89
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Caldari tears are the sweetest of all.
If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... *sips*
And the damage *chugs*
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10833
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected.
Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz
Just because it's working as intended doesn't mean it doesn't work too well.
The Gallente scout was amazing at stealth and whoop, nerf to stealth.
Scouts in general have far too many advantages, something needs to be cut or given to assaults.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2058
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:44:00 -
[66] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected.
Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along? Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat. It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already). I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults.
Diversify ****, run what you want good bad or ugly.
If you find it fun run it, don't chase a FoTM in a dying game
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
Logi for Hire
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
186
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Posted - 2014.07.12 00:42:00 -
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So cal haters calls it qq? Morons. |
Bionic Hunter
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:26:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
Lol QQ Noob here. Complaining about scan range. What about mediums they're crap(need buff). There are core skills dumbass.
Caldari and Gallente scouts are rivaled #1 so STFU noob. |
Bionic Hunter
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:32:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+Ąth credron. Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames. If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector. If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs. If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back. In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable. As most High sp players everyone have multiple suits + vehs. But theres always favorite one. So lest start. That hit decection does not exist. Every cal scout dies at same easy way. Without problem. After kill smart people shoot 1 more time to destroy clone. You damp i cant scan you so it will be who will be smarter, who will see firts and map. Mostyl map. If its town SG wins. If its open terain i'll eqiup CR. Heavy with logi? No big deal. Take down logi while you look somewehere elese. Then fast kill you. Or rush with remotes. Whats next scenario?
Lol you don't have skill then. Cal scouts are the most OP scouts in the game. -_-
I can scan anything with my proto cal scout. You're just probably one of those scrubs that hybrid tank scouts.
The Cal scout is meant for hit and run. Not for charge in like a damn fool. |
Bionic Hunter
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:38:00 -
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All these people who are trying to protect their chosen role or weapon. its pointless. You people are blaming CCP saying that they nerf everything. You guys don't know how to play MMOs then. MMOs are suppose to nerf and buff the same thing over and over again. You guys are just trying to play one role which is stupid. You have to not specialize in anything and play every role because everything needs to be nerfed and buffed. |
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5855
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:49:00 -
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Only problem I have is the fact that the Cal Scout makes Minmatar useless in PC.
Scanned Scout is dead scout, and I have to use all my lows for dampeners.
So now what? I have no hack speed, and no utility.
Why would they need me for PC if I can't use the suit for it's intended role?
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
53
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Posted - 2014.07.12 03:22:00 -
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HOW DARE YOU TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO PROTO STOMP AND STRAIF EVERTHING CCP! HOW DARE YOU! I WANNA GET TO SEE EVERY SCOUT THROUGH BPASSIVE BUT THEM NOT GET TO SEE ME HOW DARE YOU! ITS NOT FARE! I WANNA PROTO STOMP IT ITSNT FAIR!
YOU STOLE MY SONG CLOUD IM GANNA COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND BRAKE YOUR NOSE AHHHHHHHHHH
*closes book* and that was the end of the caldari scout stomping age. and mimmatar began to rain supreme over all the end. |
Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
3547
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Posted - 2014.07.12 03:25:00 -
[73] - Quote
Dear sweet dancing jeebus!
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2014.07.12 03:26:00 -
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Bionic Hunter wrote:All these people who are trying to protect their chosen role or weapon. its pointless. You people are blaming CCP saying that they nerf everything. You guys don't know how to play MMOs then. MMOs are suppose to nerf and buff the same thing over and over again. You guys are just trying to play one role which is stupid. You have to not specialize in anything and play every role because everything needs to be nerfed and buffed.
To quote Yahtzee, "Cows go moo, dogs go woof, MMO players go the pvp is unbalanced"
Used cal scout only as my sniper suit, highs fit with pe's purely just so no one could sneak up on me if I'm on the ground. Now I'll be switching to amarr for that, and we'll see if it works about the same.
what i think of when charging fg
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1699
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:20:00 -
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Sigh, I'm getting tired of this. Please make a convincing point, stop with this "your taking things from me! Your taking away my role! Your making my choices not matter! My crutch is fine! Don't fix it even of its broken because I like it!" It's bullshit.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3602
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:24:00 -
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Makes me sad to see bandwagon scrubs run to my scout.
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
2052
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Posted - 2014.07.12 04:39:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I do.
I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults.
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
890
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:33:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote: Or else giver the ck0 and extra low slot, to be relevant...
^^^ This ... I can agree with everything that was said and yes , they do need an extra low slot just like the Heavies do but that's the for the special people who just can't get over the fact that shields are crap and just like a Gal and Amarr heavy can reach up to over 1000 HP's in armor , the Cal can not do the same or close to it in shields but the keep wanting to reverse the slot lay-outs like these are basically the same people .. where they are not and both have advantages and disadvantages over each other but Gal v.s. Cal and Gal will win most times because the Cal is just so gimped .
Just because you can pull it off and make it work doesn't mean that it's not the case .
I just can't get over these people who just assume that all Cal must use RR's and shield tank , that's not versatility or customization ... that's forcing a play style that I might just not like but have to suffer because my thoughts are more suited to this race .
Also , how can they really have a focus on shields without equipping a regulator and you just can't do that with two low slots and why would you ... when you can place a repairer or a kin cat or a ranger or a dampener or even some extra HP's in Ferro / React plates ?
It's worse for the Cal heavy and that's not only the saddest but the dumbest as well .
I mean it's like they are taking away more customization and that's fine for other games that lack in that department but that's what makes this one unique and that fact that it does give you choices but just look at vehicles for instance and reflect on where they were and yes , I understand the stated intentions but playing the game I understood that at the time ... they were not that far off with vehicle balance but now it's just so bland and restricted and plain .
These last changes bring excitement for me in some cases but that's because now one has to be more aware , it's not like the functionality is bring the excitement .
Whatever , I guess it is what it is .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
890
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:37:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults.
 I as well sir , I as well .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
890
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Posted - 2014.07.12 05:46:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:What a sad thread.
TOXIC 514
Have a great day everyone! It's 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas. I love it.
It's always hot down south . Actually it's only hot in Texas in the summer. Quite mild otherwise. Except January. Then it's cold. In the southern hemisphere it's cold down south. Except January. Have a great hot day!
Um ..I'm in Mississippi / Louisiana / Texas region myself now , where it's like 86 at 7 a.m.
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Posted - 2014.07.12 08:36:00 -
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A moment of clarity just visited me.
The trick to DUST 514 is figuring out predicting which is the best stuff that is not OP and never will be, and speccing into that.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2014.07.12 09:32:00 -
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When i started this post i known that there will be people who only can say : qq,fotm,op.
Really are you guys that stupid? You think every cal scout tank and go with RR? Any scanned scout is dead. If you dont understand this then youre bad at this game. Just like that.
Im not complaining about suit it self, or others. I dont care how much hp it have, because im one of these who doesnt needs stupidly high amout of hp to do anything.
My scout have 300-400 ehp (well i count it as 200-300 because i dont count that armor, its usless).
As i said i speced to be ani scout. I fk dont care about mediums,hevies because they are killing each other. But who will kill these with shotguns that one-two shoots your team/squad , and the rest,huh? .. |
A'Real Fury
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Posted - 2014.07.12 10:09:00 -
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The Endless Grind.
Destroy a suits effectiveness thus forcing players to skill into another suit over and over again.
Public Relations - tick tick BOOM.
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Venerable Phage
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Posted - 2014.07.12 13:49:00 -
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Even before the hot fixes a fully dampened Gal scout could not be seen be a full precision Cal Scout.
Try running a Min. Which electronic skill did they get? Do you want to hack a point 1/4 of a person faster ie a min scout is equivalent to 1.25 other people so any two milita are going to out hack you.
Nova Knives aren't everyone's cup of tea either.
Amarr scouts - stamina bonus. They were just too busy showing off at the nightclubs and afterwards to other turning up to the battlefield that and their cloaks are so good you never see them - honestly have you seen many Amarr scouts? That's because they are godlike.
I do think the precision and dampening have been nerfed a bit too much as has range amplitude. But the idea of loading half the scouts with half the scouting abilities and the other half with none was pretty much guaranteed to cause a rethink after play testing.
Not One Lifetime
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The dark cloud
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Posted - 2014.07.12 14:12:00 -
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And so it has beeing sayd that the balanced turned upside down and caldari scouts are beeing laughed at by the gallente federation for their sillyness. But dont worry you can allways get more SP and even increasing your SP yield by buying boosters. |
Louis Domi
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Posted - 2014.07.12 14:22:00 -
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Don't know about the rest of you, but I speced cal scout because It was Cal, even though I was hearing alot about how the Gal scout will be unscannable with only like 2 damps. I didn't go FOTM, for some reason after gal was nerfed it became "Fotm"(Even though heavies are more FOTM IMO) |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.12 15:25:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults.
Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop.
The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two)
121m passive scans. At 18dB
Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to.
Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.12 15:27:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:A moment of clarity just visited me.
The trick to DUST 514 is figuring out predicting which is the best stuff that is not OP and never will be, and speccing into that.
Enter the Gallente Assault.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
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Posted - 2014.07.12 16:30:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception.
I kind of wanna see the math on this, also is this now, or for after charlie? Because I did my own math, and for me my now Cal scout at level 5 with range at level 5 with 2 complex range gets range of up to 91m. I could be wrong though, I would just like the math to make sure. |
Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.12 16:41:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.
I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?
Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden!
This is why plates should effect movement penalties more, but for heavies should get a bonus regarding plate speed but still make them slow as molasses
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2014.07.12 16:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception.
I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you).
With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:18:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less.
He is talking about proposed figures for hotfix Charlie. Not current.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:22:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less.
Also Gal scouts if they tried they can reach a range of over 130m... |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:24:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less.
Chances are that I've taken more math classes than you have. Very few make it to Calc II
Also: He changed the racial bonuses around a bit to theorycraft. His version gave the Cal a bonus to scan range. The bonus was enough to make 1 damp equal 87m and 2 reach out to 121.
So, I'm not wrong.
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:38:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. Chances are that I've taken more math classes than you have. Very few make it to Calc II Also: He changed the racial bonuses around a bit to theorycraft. His version gave the Cal a bonus to scan range. The bonus was enough to make 1 damp equal 87m and 2 reach out to 121. So, I'm not wrong.
Ahh I see so its charlie range
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:52:00 -
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This is why you go commando.....no way in he!! That $#!T is getting nerfed
I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^
CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2014.07.12 23:56:00 -
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Still it doesnt matter.
That long scan wouldnt even be used (especialy if scan share will be taken).
Ps. Cal with amps is easly scanned with normal/passive scan. So its bad for PC. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.13 00:40:00 -
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Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either....
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.07.13 00:51:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either....
Awesome, someone who made their choice and is sticking with it for buff or nerf.......
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:10:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:You have 5 highs to stack scans in, your whining doesn't even make sense. Hunt scouts til your heart's content. But do so with no shields.
Haaaave fun!
Not sure why anyone would like his post, well besides for people who are clearly misinformed like this troll.
Caldari scouts have 4 highs at prototype. Even if a proto scout stacked all 4 with complex precision enhancers coupled with their passive, a galscout with two dampeners and prototype cloak will be completely invisible on tacnet. This still allows the galscout to have higher primary tank, if wanted, enrich itself with more ewar or biotics over the caldari scout.
Now the amarr scout will be taking over the precision duty with only two highs at proto. I do not know what kind of percentages the calscout and amscout will receive but I'm having a bad feeling about this. Plus there is really nothing stopping the amarr scout to perform in the exact same way the caldari has been, it may even be worse because of stacking for range amps.
Typical caldari build is two extenders, two precision with 1-2 range amps.
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:27:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
I havnt played for a while.
I started playing again this week.
I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal)
I come in the forums
See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly)
I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months...
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:33:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
I havnt played for a while.
I started playing again this week.
I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal)
I come in the forums
See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly)
I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months...
its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:36:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
I havnt played for a while.
I started playing again this week.
I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal)
I come in the forums
See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly)
I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision
Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is.
Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts...
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Arcturis Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:42:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
I havnt played for a while.
I started playing again this week.
I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal)
I come in the forums
See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly)
I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is.Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts...
The main problem is people are butthurt about passive scans being shared with squad. So because currently the cal scout sees most suits, amarr is getting a better scan profile then it's current state and cal will get a reduction even though scans will still be shared.
Amarr Heavy V
Amarr Assault V
Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:43:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit...
Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter?
What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others).
Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless.
PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much...
I havnt played for a while.
I started playing again this week.
I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal)
I come in the forums
See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly)
I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is.Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts... The main problem is people are butthurt about passive scans being shared with squad. So because currently the cal scout sees most suits, amarr is getting a better scan profile then it's current state and cal will get a reduction.
Then remove Shared Passive scan. Im not getting SP for it anyways,
Leave the Cal scout as it is.
Stealth Storm
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Arcturis Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:45:00 -
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@ checkmate - I'm in agreement with you but that is a server-side (?) Fix that ccp will not do due to budgeting for legion.
Amarr Heavy V
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Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:47:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:@ checkmate - I'm in agreement with you but that is a server-side (?) Fix that ccp will not do due to budgeting for legion.
Well thats CCP's problem, we shouldnt ask for less just because tthey probably wont do it bruh.
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:50:00 -
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So after all, what ccp had to cal scouts?
It was doing its role, and just like that they decide to give it to amarr.
While amarr will stack amps still having tank and share all that to squad. Will people qq about that?
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uptown456
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:48:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either....
I respect you o7 |
Kira Takizawa
uptown456
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:48:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either.... Awesome, someone who made their choice and is sticking with it for buff or nerf.......
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Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:49:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Fit precision enhancers, you'll still pick up quite a bit.
Also, don't underestimate the importance of scanning range.
Yep, my logi with 2 range amps loves it.
Still using my cal scout either way.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1106
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:01:00 -
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Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:03:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing.
Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better?
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:05:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better?
Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.>
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Ludvig Enraga
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:08:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better?
Exactly, why use NK when they are unusable. I want to be able to play a knife ninja - knives are in the game - should not they be an option as opposed to a joke.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:09:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Exactly, why use NK when they are unusable. I want to be able to play a knife ninja - knives are in the game - should not they be an option as opposed to a joke.
Well I hear they are getting buffed good.
Max level brony.
My special magic is trolling.
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:13:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.> True, true, nothing beats going 36/6 as a minja against some proto suits.
What makes it even better is using ZN knives against 1k armor heavies 
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:24:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by.
I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.> True, true, nothing beats going 36/6 as a minja against some proto suits. What makes it even better is using ZN knives against 1k armor heavies
I was using basic knives, I believe, either that, or the advanced ones.
Max level brony.
My special magic is trolling.
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Kira Takizawa
uptown456
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 06:27:00 -
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Both are a kick to the nuts but I might try using the basics again just for the lolz |
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