DUST Search - New scouts.. How dare you CCP?

Mejt0 wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't.

I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for?

Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden!

Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+¡th credron.

Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames.

If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector.

If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs.

If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back.

In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable.

As most High sp players everyone have multiple suits + vehs. But theres always favorite one.

So lest start. That hit decection does not exist. Every cal scout dies at same easy way. Without problem. After kill smart people shoot 1 more time to destroy clone.
You damp i cant scan you so it will be who will be smarter, who will see firts and map. Mostyl map. If its town SG wins. If its open terain i'll eqiup CR.
Heavy with logi? No big deal. Take down logi while you look somewehere elese. Then fast kill you. Or rush with remotes.

Whats next scenario?

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Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2179	Posted - 2014.07.11 20:55:00 - [61] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected. Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along? Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat. It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already). I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3223	Posted - 2014.07.11 21:11:00 - [62] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected. Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along? Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat. It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already). I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults. Me? I have nothing amarr Removed all hope with this post
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 126	Posted - 2014.07.11 21:43:00 - [63] - Quote Lol i never understood the QQ behind the CalScout, mostly because i never took it to proto. I don't even care about the nerf anymore. Everyone loves to jump on the "nerf Caldari" bandwagon. Kinda sad, really. You filthy amarr, with your golden guns and your sparkling merc quarters....Curse you.. GalLogi to the end
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 89	Posted - 2014.07.11 22:15:00 - [64] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Caldari tears are the sweetest of all. If only they could nerf the Rail Rifle slightly more... sips And the damage chugs
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10833	Posted - 2014.07.11 23:01:00 - [65] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected. Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz Just because it's working as intended doesn't mean it doesn't work too well. The Gallente scout was amazing at stealth and whoop, nerf to stealth. Scouts in general have far too many advantages, something needs to be cut or given to assaults. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2058	Posted - 2014.07.11 23:44:00 - [66] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: It's so funny reading posts where people think that Caldari scout suit is god mode. There is nothing great about the suit that isn't working as intended. It's a shield suit so the hp regen is expected. Aside from the hp regen..what makes it that different from other suits besides the passive scan? People are saying it has 2 equipment slots, a light slot, a sidearm, ... just lulz First time the FOTM switched to the suit you have been running all along? Yah this is the nerf bandwagon. It hasn't stopped rolling on these forums even after the "Rouge wedding" where CCP Rouge went up on the fanfest stage and Put knife to DUST 514's throat. It's gonna get hit with a couple nerfs.. this is just round one. Best to start diversifying now(not that you aren't already). I wouldn't be surprised if slot layouts are gonna start getting adjusted across scouts and assaults. Diversify ****, run what you want good bad or ugly. If you find it fun run it, don't chase a FoTM in a dying game "Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth Logi for Hire
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 186	Posted - 2014.07.12 00:42:00 - [67] - Quote So cal haters calls it qq? Morons.
Bionic Hunter Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.12 01:26:00 - [68] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... Lol QQ Noob here. Complaining about scan range. What about mediums they're crap(need buff). There are core skills dumbass. Caldari and Gallente scouts are rivaled #1 so STFU noob.
Bionic Hunter Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.07.12 01:32:00 - [69] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Mejt0 wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for? Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! Then youre bad. Youre 1-2 shoot w+¡th credron. Awful hit detection says otherwise, especially for smaller frames. If you're not a profile dampened Scout, I'll see you. If you have a cloak on, I'll look for you with my eyes. If you two shot me, I'll report to my squad, they'll hunt you down, and someone will come pick me up with an injector. If that fails, I'll load up my dual complex profile dampened GalScout with an Ishukone Cloak and 560 eHP and I will shoot you back with my SG or knife you with my Ishukone NKs. If that doesn't work, you'll then be able to find me at an objective with a triple complex plate Boundless HMG wielding Sentinel ak.0 with a rep tool tied to my back. In all, if something gets nerfed, so be it. I have several suits and fits to use that are still viable. As most High sp players everyone have multiple suits + vehs. But theres always favorite one. So lest start. That hit decection does not exist. Every cal scout dies at same easy way. Without problem. After kill smart people shoot 1 more time to destroy clone. You damp i cant scan you so it will be who will be smarter, who will see firts and map. Mostyl map. If its town SG wins. If its open terain i'll eqiup CR. Heavy with logi? No big deal. Take down logi while you look somewehere elese. Then fast kill you. Or rush with remotes. Whats next scenario? Lol you don't have skill then. Cal scouts are the most OP scouts in the game. -_- I can scan anything with my proto cal scout. You're just probably one of those scrubs that hybrid tank scouts. The Cal scout is meant for hit and run. Not for charge in like a damn fool.
Bionic Hunter Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.07.12 01:38:00 - [70] - Quote All these people who are trying to protect their chosen role or weapon. its pointless. You people are blaming CCP saying that they nerf everything. You guys don't know how to play MMOs then. MMOs are suppose to nerf and buff the same thing over and over again. You guys are just trying to play one role which is stupid. You have to not specialize in anything and play every role because everything needs to be nerfed and buffed.

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5855	Posted - 2014.07.12 01:49:00 - [71] - Quote Only problem I have is the fact that the Cal Scout makes Minmatar useless in PC. Scanned Scout is dead scout, and I have to use all my lows for dampeners. So now what? I have no hack speed, and no utility. Why would they need me for PC if I can't use the suit for it's intended role? How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
PANDA UZIMAKI SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 53	Posted - 2014.07.12 03:22:00 - [72] - Quote HOW DARE YOU TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO PROTO STOMP AND STRAIF EVERTHING CCP! HOW DARE YOU! I WANNA GET TO SEE EVERY SCOUT THROUGH BPASSIVE BUT THEM NOT GET TO SEE ME HOW DARE YOU! ITS NOT FARE! I WANNA PROTO STOMP IT ITSNT FAIR! YOU STOLE MY SONG CLOUD IM GANNA COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND BRAKE YOUR NOSE AHHHHHHHHHH closes book and that was the end of the caldari scout stomping age. and mimmatar began to rain supreme over all the end.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3547	Posted - 2014.07.12 03:25:00 - [73] - Quote Dear sweet dancing jeebus! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 163	Posted - 2014.07.12 03:26:00 - [74] - Quote Bionic Hunter wrote: All these people who are trying to protect their chosen role or weapon. its pointless. You people are blaming CCP saying that they nerf everything. You guys don't know how to play MMOs then. MMOs are suppose to nerf and buff the same thing over and over again. You guys are just trying to play one role which is stupid. You have to not specialize in anything and play every role because everything needs to be nerfed and buffed. To quote Yahtzee, "Cows go moo, dogs go woof, MMO players go the pvp is unbalanced" Used cal scout only as my sniper suit, highs fit with pe's purely just so no one could sneak up on me if I'm on the ground. Now I'll be switching to amarr for that, and we'll see if it works about the same. what i think of when charging fg
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1699	Posted - 2014.07.12 04:20:00 - [75] - Quote Sigh, I'm getting tired of this. Please make a convincing point, stop with this "your taking things from me! Your taking away my role! Your making my choices not matter! My crutch is fine! Don't fix it even of its broken because I like it!" It's bullshit. Before you ask I have cal scout to 5
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3602	Posted - 2014.07.12 04:24:00 - [76] - Quote Makes me sad to see bandwagon scrubs run to my scout. Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 2052	Posted - 2014.07.12 04:39:00 - [77] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 890	Posted - 2014.07.12 05:33:00 - [78] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Or else giver the ck0 and extra low slot, to be relevant... ^^^ This ... I can agree with everything that was said and yes , they do need an extra low slot just like the Heavies do but that's the for the special people who just can't get over the fact that shields are crap and just like a Gal and Amarr heavy can reach up to over 1000 HP's in armor , the Cal can not do the same or close to it in shields but the keep wanting to reverse the slot lay-outs like these are basically the same people .. where they are not and both have advantages and disadvantages over each other but Gal v.s. Cal and Gal will win most times because the Cal is just so gimped . Just because you can pull it off and make it work doesn't mean that it's not the case . I just can't get over these people who just assume that all Cal must use RR's and shield tank , that's not versatility or customization ... that's forcing a play style that I might just not like but have to suffer because my thoughts are more suited to this race . Also , how can they really have a focus on shields without equipping a regulator and you just can't do that with two low slots and why would you ... when you can place a repairer or a kin cat or a ranger or a dampener or even some extra HP's in Ferro / React plates ? It's worse for the Cal heavy and that's not only the saddest but the dumbest as well . I mean it's like they are taking away more customization and that's fine for other games that lack in that department but that's what makes this one unique and that fact that it does give you choices but just look at vehicles for instance and reflect on where they were and yes , I understand the stated intentions but playing the game I understood that at the time ... they were not that far off with vehicle balance but now it's just so bland and restricted and plain . These last changes bring excitement for me in some cases but that's because now one has to be more aware , it's not like the functionality is bring the excitement . Whatever , I guess it is what it is . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 890	Posted - 2014.07.12 05:37:00 - [79] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. I as well sir , I as well . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 890	Posted - 2014.07.12 05:46:00 - [80] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: What a sad thread. TOXIC 514 Have a great day everyone! It's 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas. I love it. It's always hot down south . Actually it's only hot in Texas in the summer. Quite mild otherwise. Except January. Then it's cold. In the southern hemisphere it's cold down south. Except January. Have a great hot day! Um ..I'm in Mississippi / Louisiana / Texas region myself now , where it's like 86 at 7 a.m. You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.

IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 502	Posted - 2014.07.12 08:36:00 - [81] - Quote A moment of clarity just visited me. The trick to DUST 514 is ~~figuring out~~ predicting which is the best stuff that is not OP and never will be, and speccing into that. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 187	Posted - 2014.07.12 09:32:00 - [82] - Quote When i started this post i known that there will be people who only can say : qq,fotm,op. Really are you guys that stupid? You think every cal scout tank and go with RR? Any scanned scout is dead. If you dont understand this then youre bad at this game. Just like that. Im not complaining about suit it self, or others. I dont care how much hp it have, because im one of these who doesnt needs stupidly high amout of hp to do anything. My scout have 300-400 ehp (well i count it as 200-300 because i dont count that armor, its usless). As i said i speced to be ani scout. I fk dont care about mediums,hevies because they are killing each other. But who will kill these with shotguns that one-two shoots your team/squad , and the rest,huh? ..
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 966	Posted - 2014.07.12 10:09:00 - [83] - Quote The Endless Grind. Destroy a suits effectiveness thus forcing players to skill into another suit over and over again. Public Relations - tick tick BOOM. PSN: CallOfTheDark
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 166	Posted - 2014.07.12 13:49:00 - [84] - Quote Even before the hot fixes a fully dampened Gal scout could not be seen be a full precision Cal Scout. Try running a Min. Which electronic skill did they get? Do you want to hack a point 1/4 of a person faster ie a min scout is equivalent to 1.25 other people so any two milita are going to out hack you. Nova Knives aren't everyone's cup of tea either. Amarr scouts - stamina bonus. They were just too busy showing off at the nightclubs and afterwards to other turning up to the battlefield that and their cloaks are so good you never see them - honestly have you seen many Amarr scouts? That's because they are godlike. I do think the precision and dampening have been nerfed a bit too much as has range amplitude. But the idea of loading half the scouts with half the scouting abilities and the other half with none was pretty much guaranteed to cause a rethink after play testing. Not One Lifetime
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3518	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:12:00 - [85] - Quote And so it has beeing sayd that the balanced turned upside down and caldari scouts are beeing laughed at by the gallente federation for their sillyness. But dont worry you can allways get more SP and even increasing your SP yield by buying boosters.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 469	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:22:00 - [86] - Quote Don't know about the rest of you, but I speced cal scout because It was Cal, even though I was hearing alot about how the Gal scout will be unscannable with only like 2 damps. I didn't go FOTM, for some reason after gal was nerfed it became "Fotm"(Even though heavies are more FOTM IMO)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5861	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:25:00 - [87] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3552	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:27:00 - [88] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: A moment of clarity just visited me. The trick to DUST 514 is ~~figuring out~~ predicting which is the best stuff that is not OP and never will be, and speccing into that. Enter the Gallente Assault. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 477	Posted - 2014.07.12 16:30:00 - [89] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I kind of wanna see the math on this, also is this now, or for after charlie? Because I did my own math, and for me my now Cal scout at level 5 with range at level 5 with 2 complex range gets range of up to 91m. I could be wrong though, I would just like the math to make sure.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 861	Posted - 2014.07.12 16:41:00 - [90] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I dual tank that shit like a badass and slay away. It's definitely the best assault suit out there: small hitbox, awesome strafing capabilities, 2 equipment slots, low profile, decent passives, cloak capability, lots of CPU/PG. What more can you ask for? Slap on a Viziam, Duvolle, or Six Kin and you're golden! This is why plates should effect movement penalties more, but for heavies should get a bonus regarding plate speed but still make them slow as molasses We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals



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