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Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 187	Posted - 2014.07.12 16:48:00 - [91] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 505	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:18:00 - [92] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. He is talking about proposed figures for hotfix Charlie. Not current. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 478	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:22:00 - [93] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. Also Gal scouts if they tried they can reach a range of over 130m...
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5863	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:24:00 - [94] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. Chances are that I've taken more math classes than you have. Very few make it to Calc II Also: He changed the racial bonuses around a bit to theorycraft. His version gave the Cal a bonus to scan range. The bonus was enough to make 1 damp equal 87m and 2 reach out to 121. So, I'm not wrong. How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 478	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:38:00 - [95] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Who uses a CalScout strictly for scanning? I don't. I do. I specced into all 5 of my suits for specific purposes and roles to be used in PC, now my hunter scout will be useless. I'm not happy, but I'm more concerned with what they are doing with Assaults. Rattai just ran some data by the Barbershop. The bonueses make it so that a 2x Precision Cal scout can scan at 18dB for 87m (with one range amp) or 121m (with two) 121m passive scans. At 18dB Scouts can dodge it with damps, but everyone else? You'll still have a role. They are just making it so that all scouts can dodge scans if they want to. Also: Take that feeling right now of your scout being useless. My scout has been useless since 1.7. At least you HAD a moment of Glory. Min Scout has been terrible since it's inception. I dont know who was your math teacher, but he faild (or you). With max skills and 2 amps cal scan at 70m or less. Chances are that I've taken more math classes than you have. Very few make it to Calc II Also: He changed the racial bonuses around a bit to theorycraft. His version gave the Cal a bonus to scan range. The bonus was enough to make 1 damp equal 87m and 2 reach out to 121. So, I'm not wrong. Ahh I see so its charlie range
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5242	Posted - 2014.07.12 17:52:00 - [96] - Quote This is why you go commando.....no way in he!! That $#!T is getting nerfed I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^ CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 187	Posted - 2014.07.12 23:56:00 - [97] - Quote Still it doesnt matter. That long scan wouldnt even be used (especialy if scan share will be taken). Ps. Cal with amps is easly scanned with normal/passive scan. So its bad for PC.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 525	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:40:00 - [98] - Quote Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either.... Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2060	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:51:00 - [99] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either.... Awesome, someone who made their choice and is sticking with it for buff or nerf....... "Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth Logi for Hire
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:10:00 - [100] - Quote trollface dot jpg wrote: You have 5 highs to stack scans in, your whining doesn't even make sense. Hunt scouts til your heart's content. But do so with no shields. Haaaave fun! Not sure why anyone would like his post, well besides for people who are clearly misinformed like this troll. Caldari scouts have 4 highs at prototype. Even if a proto scout stacked all 4 with complex precision enhancers coupled with their passive, a galscout with two dampeners and prototype cloak will be completely invisible on tacnet. This still allows the galscout to have higher primary tank, if wanted, enrich itself with more ewar or biotics over the caldari scout. Now the amarr scout will be taking over the precision duty with only two highs at proto. I do not know what kind of percentages the calscout and amscout will receive but I'm having a bad feeling about this. Plus there is really nothing stopping the amarr scout to perform in the exact same way the caldari has been, it may even be worse because of stacking for range amps. Typical caldari build is two extenders, two precision with 1-2 range amps. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR

KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5272	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:27:00 - [101] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... I havnt played for a while. I started playing again this week. I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal) I come in the forums See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly) I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... Stealth Storm
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1305	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:33:00 - [102] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... I havnt played for a while. I started playing again this week. I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal) I come in the forums See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly) I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5272	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:36:00 - [103] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... I havnt played for a while. I started playing again this week. I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal) I come in the forums See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly) I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is. Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts... Stealth Storm
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:42:00 - [104] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... I havnt played for a while. I started playing again this week. I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal) I come in the forums See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly) I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is. Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts... The main problem is people are butthurt about passive scans being shared with squad. So because currently the cal scout sees most suits, amarr is getting a better scan profile then it's current state and cal will get a reduction even though scans will still be shared. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5273	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:43:00 - [105] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I spec for Caldari especialy for anti scout role. And now youre telling me that i waste all that sp for nothing? For fk scan range? Bullshit... Now Caldari will be left as low hp hunter? What hunter is that. It was my decisions and it was taken . I choose to be anti scout and you choose to rip that from me (and others). Thats just not fair. You make people waste sp and then making it usless. PS. That f bonus will give only 8m longer scan with maxed passive. WOW so much... I havnt played for a while. I started playing again this week. I spent 3 mill in Cal scouts ( i already have Proto gal) I come in the forums See the CAl scout is getting nerfed (anyone can specify what exactly) I'll be back,maybe, in 4-6 months... its not even getting nerfed, its just getting longer range scans with less precision Yeah.because its not hard enough to detect Gal scouts as it is. Me myself being a double cx Profile dampened Gallente scout already laugh a CAl scouts... The main problem is people are butthurt about passive scans being shared with squad. So because currently the cal scout sees most suits, amarr is getting a better scan profile then it's current state and cal will get a reduction. Then remove Shared Passive scan. Im not getting SP for it anyways, Leave the Cal scout as it is. Stealth Storm
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:45:00 - [106] - Quote @ checkmate - I'm in agreement with you but that is a server-side (?) Fix that ccp will not do due to budgeting for legion. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5273	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:47:00 - [107] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: @ checkmate - I'm in agreement with you but that is a server-side (?) Fix that ccp will not do due to budgeting for legion. Well thats CCP's problem, we shouldnt ask for less just because tthey probably wont do it bruh. Stealth Storm
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 188	Posted - 2014.07.13 16:50:00 - [108] - Quote So after all, what ccp had to cal scouts? It was doing its role, and just like that they decide to give it to amarr. While amarr will stack amps still having tank and share all that to squad. Will people qq about that? And another nerf/buff cycle will go..
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 196	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:48:00 - [109] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either.... I respect you o7
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 196	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:48:00 - [110] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Cant hear you guys arguing numbers over the sound of my Cal scout jumping off of high ledges with a Mass Driver..... Hotfix charlie wont change this for me either.... Awesome, someone who made their choice and is sticking with it for buff or nerf....... We need more mercs like him

JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 41	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:49:00 - [111] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Fit precision enhancers, you'll still pick up quite a bit. Also, don't underestimate the importance of scanning range. Yep, my logi with 2 range amps loves it. Still using my cal scout either way. Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1106	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:01:00 - [112] - Quote Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 41	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:03:00 - [113] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 196	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:05:00 - [114] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.>
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1106	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:08:00 - [115] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Exactly, why use NK when they are unusable. I want to be able to play a knife ninja - knives are in the game - should not they be an option as opposed to a joke. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 41	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:09:00 - [116] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Exactly, why use NK when they are unusable. I want to be able to play a knife ninja - knives are in the game - should not they be an option as opposed to a joke. Well I hear they are getting buffed good. Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 196	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:13:00 - [117] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.> True, true, nothing beats going 36/6 as a minja against some proto suits. What makes it even better is using ZN knives against 1k armor heavies
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 41	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:24:00 - [118] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Finally Cal Scout is getting nerfed. It was too much of a FOTM ever since cloak update dropped. Sure ppl bitched about gal scouts in pubs but in PC it was all about Cal Scouts getting a lock on a map so that a mouse could not squeeze by. I run Minmatar Scout. How am I ever able to play as a knife specialist when each game had 10 cal scouts constantly scanning for me. This is clearly broken. I don't mind Cal Scouts being able to see non stealthy suits over a wide range but picking up Min Scout - no thank you. That was game breaking for min scouts. That's one of the major reasons I quit playing. Well fear no more, and why use nova knives when shotguns do it better? Knives are more fun and use more skill. >.> True, true, nothing beats going 36/6 as a minja against some proto suits. What makes it even better is using ZN knives against 1k armor heavies I was using basic knives, I believe, either that, or the advanced ones. Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Dark Taboo 197	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:27:00 - [119] - Quote Both are a kick to the nuts but I might try using the basics again just for the lolz


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