Calscouts being able to scan through my Triple Damped Minja was BS, and deserved to be nerf hammered.

Although, they're still going to be useful: scan down anybody who tries to get within range of your allies' (racial) rail rifles or (nonracial) get that HMG heavy moving to the north door because HEY, alongside those 6 scanned reds, there's a dampened scout that you didn't know about.

Half the time the super damped scouts are found by undamped blues who decide its' their mission to defend that base HP scout.

Tl:Dr- HTFU or leave, we would be better off without you goddamned FOTM chasers, ruining MULTIPLE roles because of your short-sightedness and inability to compromise.

Of course scouts would prefer it. Any scout can get under the Amarr relatively easily, it's only the Cal scout currently that can keep other scouts in check via its scans and shared scans with squad mates.

I've already said this a thousand times: Most combat Cal scouts only use 1-2 Cplx precision mods, which can be dodged by even another Cal scout (with a cloak). However, this is the limit of the Amarr scout whereas the Cal scout can sacrifice virtually all it's combat effectiveness in exchange for scanning ability.

You're basically asking to remove one of the (if not the) only counters to your suit.

Using anything over two enhancers is worthless......allowing the amarr where its PRIMARY TANK comes from low slots to be able to equip enhancers without sacrifice is bad balance.

Scan bonus should go to suits that will be gimped if they use those modules. Suits which are primarily, shield suits like cal and min. Give the amarr the dampening bonus and give gallente the range bonus.

Using anything over two enhancers is worthless......allowing the amarr where its PRIMARY TANK comes from low slots to be able to equip enhancers without sacrifice is bad balance.

Scan bonus should go to suits that will be gimped if they use those modules. Suits which are primarily, shield suits like cal and min. Give the amarr the dampening bonus and give gallente the range bonus.

Under what number assumption do you claim?
5%?
3%?
7%?
It's not clear yet so you have wait and see.

There's nothing wrong with permitting each scout frame the opportunity to dampen effectively. Dampened scouts aren't the problem.

The role of if "hunter scouts" should be to encourage dampening over brick, rather than shut out of play all but gallente. The CalScout is overly effective and needs to be fixed. Rattati's suggestion is one way to do it.

For the record, 4 cPEs will still light up FoTM brick tankers, and a Range bonus will certainly help.

@ Osborne

Ridiculous?

I presently run a max skill CalScout with 3 precision enhancers, 2 range extenders, and 2 prototype active scanners. If in squad, I seldom draw fire (until I decide that I want to ); that right thar is called Low Risk. My squad mates and I see dang near everything in advance of it posing a threat; that's called High Return.

I don't think that I'm OP; I know that I'm OP.

Afterthought

Scouts want four balanced frames. Nothing more, and nothing less. We can't get there with a 15dB precision baseline. When good Scouts can't feasibly beat scans, they have little choice other than to tank up. Assault Lite is the result, and it is not very Scoutly.

CalScouts aren't themselves the problem. Tanky Scouts are the problem. CalScouts are reinforcing the problem.

That argument works only and only if efficacy to modules

For instance if we continue to give the precision bonus to Caldari it frees up 2 high slots with the 5% bonus. People will look at this like a present on the door step and ignore further pursuing use of precision mods and replace it with tank. Giving them a range bonus frees up a low slot in essence, of which they have very little use for in terms of tank. However at the same time they have the most high slots so they are the best scanner no matter if they tank or not. There is a reason we see Cal Scouts with shields in the hundreds, who are still very able to track down dampened suits.

If we had efficacy to module bonuses then, you'd be correct. However we won't until Delta.

Then let's petition for all bonuses to go towards efficiacies to the respective modules and not passive.

yes a cal in squad format is op, try running solo, you can still pick your fights(and win),but at the time your fighting add a tank that rolls by ,some ass a rail rifle that has enough distance you don't see him on tacnet, a fully damp'd gal scout or recieving sniper fire and your good as dead not to mention with the fit you mentioned above you can be seen by any other scout

if they removed shared scans with squad problem SOLVED