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Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 10	Posted - 2014.07.10 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! The Caldari State will prevail.
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 4	Posted - 2014.07.10 19:58:00 - [2] - Quote We have not always fought them... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11752	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:05:00 - [3] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 4	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11753	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:21:00 - [5] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 4	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:23:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum Damn you and your quote! Are we talking about all mankind or just the gallente and caldari Creative with guns
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11753	Posted - 2014.07.10 20:56:00 - [7] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum Damn you and your quote! Are we talking about all mankind or just the gallente and caldari I suppose as the statements can be applied to all mankind so to can it be applied to the various sections of it. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 4	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:01:00 - [8] - Quote Really? Creative with guns
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11754	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:25:00 - [9] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 6	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:55:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. That was rhetorical... Creative with guns

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11754	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:57:00 - [11] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. That was rhetorical... Not so. We Amarr perceive that there is conflict all around us and seek to right that conflict, we celebrate the knowledge that while we are as people are all individuals we reach the same conclusion in terms of our spirituality. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 6	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:46:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. That was rhetorical... Not so. We Amarr perceive that there is conflict all around us and seek to right that conflict, we celebrate the knowledge that while we are as people are all individuals we reach the same conclusion in terms of our spirituality. Your truly adamant... This was not about you damn amarr, it was the relations of the gallente and caldari... Creative with guns
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 10	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:48:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum Fantastic quote. The Caldari State will prevail.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11769	Posted - 2014.07.11 00:48:00 - [14] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum Fantastic quote. I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 10	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:23:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes The Caldari State will prevail.
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 6	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:46:00 - [16] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: True Adamance wrote: I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think... Creative with guns
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 10	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:50:00 - [17] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: True Adamance wrote: I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think... What do you mean I misspelled it? The Caldari State will prevail.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 262	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:54:00 - [18] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: True Adamance wrote: I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think... What do you mean I misspelled it? I think he is referring to your use of a hard C (K) in "Klan", despite the fact that this is, in fact; acceptable phonetic spelling. Shofixti beats an Ur-Quan Dreadnought and a Kor-Ah Marauder.
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 6	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:00:00 - [19] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: True Adamance wrote: I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved" - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think... What do you mean I misspelled it? I think he is referring to your use of a hard C (K) in "Klan", despite the fact that this is, in fact; acceptable phonetic spelling. Uh... No... I've always pronounced it Kla-an Perhaps you are thinking too hard hawk... Enough drinks and it'll make better sense to you Creative with guns
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 262	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:04:00 - [20] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Uh... No... I've always pronounced it Kla-an Perhaps you are thinking too hard hawk... Enough drinks and it'll make better sense to you But... I'm already drunk! Shofixti beats an Ur-Quan Dreadnought and a Kor-Ah Marauder.

Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 14	Posted - 2014.07.11 02:19:00 - [21] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Uh... No... I've always pronounced it Kla-an Perhaps you are thinking too hard hawk... Enough drinks and it'll make better sense to you But... I'm already drunk! lol funny vid The Caldari State will prevail.
Crownrule SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 0	Posted - 2014.07.23 07:48:00 - [22] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! I would be honored to fight by the caldari, they are fierce, strong warriors such as the amarr and I would like to live up to the expectations of my ancestors and fight for the amarr people and our ally, the caldari "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 15	Posted - 2014.07.24 03:01:00 - [23] - Quote Crownrule wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! I would be honored to fight by the caldari, they are fierce, strong warriors such as the amarr and I would like to live up to the expectations of my ancestors and fight for the amarr people and our ally, the caldari Our bothers and sisters in arms fight against the Gallenteans, who only hail to the ISK in my eyes. We will fight with true honor and vigilance. The Caldari State will prevail.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 296	Posted - 2014.07.24 10:28:00 - [24] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: Crownrule wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! I would be honored to fight by the caldari, they are fierce, strong warriors such as the amarr and I would like to live up to the expectations of my ancestors and fight for the amarr people and our ally, the caldari Our bothers and sisters in arms fight against the Gallenteans, who only hail to the ISK in my eyes. We will fight with true honor and vigilance. I don't hail only to the ISK. I also don't try to stick said ISK into your eyes... He is indestructable!
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 15	Posted - 2014.07.26 02:52:00 - [25] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Crownrule wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! I would be honored to fight by the caldari, they are fierce, strong warriors such as the amarr and I would like to live up to the expectations of my ancestors and fight for the amarr people and our ally, the caldari Our bothers and sisters in arms fight against the Gallenteans, who only hail to the ISK in my eyes. We will fight with true honor and vigilance. I don't hail only to the ISK. I also don't try to stick said ISK into your eyes... Gallentean. Off with you. The Caldari State will prevail.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 302	Posted - 2014.07.26 10:10:00 - [26] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. He is indestructable!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12253	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:03:00 - [27] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. C'mon Hawkeye lets be honest....you are Galletean and filth that needs to be cleansed by the fires of the Faith "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 302	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:19:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. C'mon Hawkeye lets be honest....you are Galletean and filth that needs to be cleansed by the fires of the Faith Yeah, I know, I'll get to the fires later, but until then, I DEMAND THE RIGHT to bring my filthy Gallentean-ness where I please! He is indestructable!
Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 15	Posted - 2014.07.27 16:35:00 - [29] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. Forever in battle we stand. You are just like America back in the Milky Way. Using lies to make people believe your democracy is true and honest. Yes, I broke the lore. The Caldari State will prevail.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 306	Posted - 2014.07.27 18:35:00 - [30] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. Forever in battle we stand. You are just like America back in the Milky Way. Using lies to make people believe your democracy is true and honest. Yes, I broke the lore. ((You also broke the 4th wall. Nice work.)) He is indestructable!

Laiod Klan Providence Guard Templis CALSF 15	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:34:00 - [31] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. Forever in battle we stand. You are just like America back in the Milky Way. Using lies to make people believe your democracy is true and honest. Yes, I broke the lore. ((You also broke the 4th wall. Nice work.)) No problem The Caldari State will prevail.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 308	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:47:00 - [32] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Laiod Klan wrote: Gallentean. Off with you. That... Is racist. You're racist. You horrible person. Forever in battle we stand. You are just like America back in the Milky Way. Using lies to make people believe your democracy is true and honest. Yes, I broke the lore. ((You also broke the 4th wall. Nice work.)) No problem ((Sorry, I should have told you, I was being sarcastic in that post.)) He is indestructable!
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 248	Posted - 2014.07.27 21:06:00 - [33] - Quote Hawk I believe you need to drink more. You clearly arn't as drunk as me just yet. Legionhares Unite!
Klaus Heissleir Stonetread 8	Posted - 2014.08.30 18:05:00 - [34] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Hawk I believe you need to drink more. You clearly arn't as drunk as me just yet. I can drink more than you.
Hunter Junko Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 265	Posted - 2014.09.01 01:11:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum I'll use this quote: " war is a drug. It starts with a taste, then it grows and grows until it becomes an addiction, then by the time we realize it, we thrist for it, and at the same time become desperate to find a way to stop it."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13146	Posted - 2014.09.01 01:54:00 - [36] - Quote Hunter Junko wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum I'll use this quote: " war is a drug. It starts with a taste, then it grows and grows until it becomes an addiction, then by the time we realize it, we thrist for it, and at the same time become desperate to find a way to stop it." War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Hunter Junko Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 266	Posted - 2014.09.01 03:10:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Hunter Junko wrote: True Adamance wrote: Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum I'll use this quote: " war is a drug. It starts with a taste, then it grows and grows until it becomes an addiction, then by the time we realize it, we thrist for it, and at the same time become desperate to find a way to stop it." War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. Perhaps the only reason why our people want conflict can be linked to the day of darkness, something in which amarrian religion made possible. And I meant war in general, although the same rules apply to the conflicts between our people, not just the Maw'hyri
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 325	Posted - 2014.09.05 07:47:00 - [38] - Quote Klaus Heissleir wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Hawk I believe you need to drink more. You clearly arn't as drunk as me just yet. I can drink more than you. The only Caldari I know that stands a chance to out drink me is Raven. Go drink some juice kid. Legionhares Unite!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17548	Posted - 2014.09.05 21:36:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. Flying to new horizons.
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 13	Posted - 2014.09.07 00:00:00 - [40] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. She speaks the truth! now away with you gallente! Also hawk, can you please stick some of that ISK into my hands instead of my eyes? Creative with guns

Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 354	Posted - 2014.09.07 01:04:00 - [41] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. She speaks the truth! now away with you gallente! Also hawk, can you please stick some of that ISK into my hands instead of my eyes? But the part where I drive the little ISK tokens through your eyes is the best part! AM. A. M. Cogito Ergo Sum! I think, therefore I AM.
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 13	Posted - 2014.09.07 01:25:00 - [42] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship. The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect. Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. She speaks the truth! now away with you gallente! Also hawk, can you please stick some of that ISK into my hands instead of my eyes? But the part where I drive the little ISK tokens through your eyes is the best part! not for me! Creative with guns
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2730	Posted - 2014.09.07 18:59:00 - [43] - Quote Put some damn state pythons in your loyalty store and I will bring with me the best pilots this cluster and beyond. Roles mastered- HAV/ADS/LDS/Forum Lord/Working on Assault Pinned down? Let my tank scatter enemies for you v(^_^)v
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17592	Posted - 2014.09.08 20:37:00 - [44] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Put some damn state pythons in your loyalty store and I will bring with me the best pilots this cluster and beyond. And I might come out of retirement to watch the fireflies. Flying to new horizons.
Klaus Heissleir Stonetread 8	Posted - 2014.09.09 01:37:00 - [45] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Put some damn state pythons in your loyalty store and I will bring with me the best pilots this cluster and beyond. And I might come out of retirement to watch the fireflies. http://youtu.be/FydsEUiRzSE
Foehammerr OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 43	Posted - 2014.09.14 09:02:00 - [46] - Quote A Caldari victory? Please, don't make me laugh. Your ground force is a joke. For all that training you all receive as teenagers through adulthood, it doesn't seem to do you much good. You're getting smashed by a bunch of volunteers . The only time you'd ever win on the battlefield, is if your government were to contract out to notorious private emperyan corporations like Nyan San and pay exorbitant amounts for s platoon of mercs just for individual victories. If it weren't for the fact the the ROE was changed and now we Gallenteans are forced to spend more time defending than attacking because of all of our gained territory, we'd still control all the planets in the war zone from day one to today. You Navy might be passable, but your infantry wouldn't be second rate by even Minmatar standards. Hell even your Navy was defeated not to long ago allowing for full zone control in space by us again. *Rangers Lead The Way!* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
sir RAVEN WING Death Dea1ers 13	Posted - 2014.09.16 16:54:00 - [47] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: A Caldari victory? Please, don't make me laugh. Your ground force is a joke. For all that training you all receive as teenagers through adulthood, it doesn't seem to do you much good. You're getting smashed by a bunch of volunteers . The only time you'd ever win on the battlefield, is if your government were to contract out to notorious private emperyan corporations like Nyan San and pay exorbitant amounts for s platoon of mercs just for individual victories. If it weren't for the fact the the ROE was changed and now we Gallenteans are forced to spend more time defending than attacking because of all of our gained territory, we'd still control all the planets in the war zone from day one to today. You Navy might be passable, but your infantry wouldn't be second rate by even Minmatar standards. Hell even your Navy was defeated not to long ago allowing for full zone control in space by us again. I hope I see you on the battlefield, maybe even make you eat your words. Creative with guns
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 534	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:26:00 - [48] - Quote Laiod Klan wrote: We, my fellow Caldari brothers, are emerging into a new age of war. The battlefield is our new frontier, my brothers and sisters in arms. The Caldari need to embrace this new age of war, and bring victory across the land. Brothers and sisters, we must unite in arms against the oppressive Gallente, whom we have fought since forever. The Gallente's reign in the battlefield will not last longer, as the State will bring a new age of advancement when we are able to prevail. All of the corporations that fight under the Caldari flag fight with true honor and vigiliance, against all oppressors they see. May the State be victorious in the battlefield in years to come! I thought every provist had given neckshot allready,obiosly i was wrong Fck the kdr,i`m going in
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 230	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:42:00 - [49] - Quote They're jealous of our freedom.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14913	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:49:00 - [50] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 370	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:50:00 - [51] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Who? The Caldari sure isn't or we'd never had started this war and we'd never would've taken our independence. The Caldari got Clone tech from guess who... Jove! (Unless the game lore was messed up) Can someone allow me to borrow some History books from both sides of the war? I'd love to take a look and see how they differ. This is the after forum, the old forum sploded when The Barbershop reached page *514* ...
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 370	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:55:00 - [52] - Quote True Adamance wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure... This is the after forum, the old forum sploded when The Barbershop reached page *514* ...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14913	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:06:00 - [53] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure... Anarchy is not freedom, it is chaos. Truly being free is understanding the celebrating the uniformity of your thought. To know and understand at all times the correct way to act in the just and righteous manner befitting your station for your people, your Empress, and God. The only worthy freedom is spiritual liberation through the Faith. To be truly free is to understand this and know that path. He who is stripped to his very foundations is closest to God and able to transcend their earthly limitations. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 370	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:20:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure... Anarchy is not freedom, it is chaos. Truly being free is understanding the celebrating the uniformity of your thought. To know and understand at all times the correct way to act in the just and righteous manner befitting your station for your people, your Empress, and God. The only worthy freedom is spiritual liberation through the Faith. To be truly free is to understand this and know that path. He who is stripped to his very foundations is closest to God and able to transcend their earthly limitations. It is chaos, but you are free. You have only your own self limiting your actions. Nothing dictates your actions, no laws, and for certain people, no religion. I never said I wanted true freedom. The winds guide me to victory and happiness and that is all I need. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Zealot Devaurous Raymond James Corp 0	Posted - 2014.11.28 09:58:00 - [55] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure... Anarchy is not freedom, it is chaos. Truly being free is understanding the celebrating the uniformity of your thought. To know and understand at all times the correct way to act in the just and righteous manner befitting your station for your people, your Empress, and God. The only worthy freedom is spiritual liberation through the Faith. To be truly free is to understand this and know that path. He who is stripped to his very foundations is closest to God and able to transcend their earthly limitations. It is chaos, but you are free. You have only your own self limiting your actions. Nothing dictates your actions, no laws, and for certain people, no religion. I never said I wanted true freedom. The winds guide me to victory and happiness and that is all I need. Adam, do you really think that Amaar beliefs represent the unity of thought? You close the possibility of the ideals as a templar. You were an inquisitor who helped destroy and pillage the ideals of so many tribes! Is the untity of thought only through your beliefs? Or do you want to destroy those who are only not united with you? Freedom is derived by independent thought, the belief that one can choose their morals and not close the morals of others.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15167	Posted - 2014.11.28 12:28:00 - [56] - Quote Zealot Devaurous wrote: Adam, do you really think that Amaar beliefs represent the unity of thought? You close the possibility of the ideals as a templar. You were an inquisitor who helped destroy and pillage the ideals of so many tribes! Is the untity of thought only through your beliefs? Or do you want to destroy those who are only not united with you? Freedom is derived by independent thought, the belief that one can choose their morals and not close the morals of others. Freedom, if such a thing has value in life, is derived from knowing and attempting to understand through the Word of God and His prophets the fundamental truths of existence. Now I whole heartedly believe than a man or woman cannot know freedom unless they know utter subservience and submission before the naturally higher power. A man who is given his freedom by secular laws and policies laid down by the hand of Man is not a true Freedom and not the kind that I believe I wish from myself, my slave, or my people. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 546	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:08:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zealot Devaurous wrote: Adam, do you really think that Amaar beliefs represent the unity of thought? You close the possibility of the ideals as a templar. You were an inquisitor who helped destroy and pillage the ideals of so many tribes! Is the untity of thought only through your beliefs? Or do you want to destroy those who are only not united with you? Freedom is derived by independent thought, the belief that one can choose their morals and not close the morals of others. Freedom, if such a thing has value in life, is derived from knowing and attempting to understand through the Word of God and His prophets the fundamental truths of existence. Now I whole heartedly believe than a man or woman cannot know freedom unless they know utter subservience and submission before the naturally higher power. A man who is given his freedom by secular laws and policies laid down by the hand of Man is not a true Freedom and not the kind that I believe I wish from myself, my slave, or my people. It is strange,that every person who are pro slavery in amarr culture.Are people who has not live in slavery. Fck the kdr,i`m going in
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1140	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:12:00 - [58] - Quote The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15461	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:14:00 - [59] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: True Adamance wrote: Zealot Devaurous wrote: Adam, do you really think that Amaar beliefs represent the unity of thought? You close the possibility of the ideals as a templar. You were an inquisitor who helped destroy and pillage the ideals of so many tribes! Is the untity of thought only through your beliefs? Or do you want to destroy those who are only not united with you? Freedom is derived by independent thought, the belief that one can choose their morals and not close the morals of others. Freedom, if such a thing has value in life, is derived from knowing and attempting to understand through the Word of God and His prophets the fundamental truths of existence. Now I whole heartedly believe than a man or woman cannot know freedom unless they know utter subservience and submission before the naturally higher power. A man who is given his freedom by secular laws and policies laid down by the hand of Man is not a true Freedom and not the kind that I believe I wish from myself, my slave, or my people. It is strange,that every person who are pro slavery in amarr culture.Are people who has not live in slavery. That's not true at all. Many pirate groups practice and deal with slaves, from Sansha's Nation, who implant mind control devices in their victims, to the Blood Raiders, who either butcher their slaves or siphon them for blood in slave pens..... both ideals equally abhorrent. ((OOC Slaves are used by every specific racial group. Read Beautiful faces.)) In the Amarr Empire the idea of being a slave is one of social integration. The Amarr culturally have a great respect for age and piety. In order for a slave to be made a free man they must show they are pious and committed to adopting the faith. This might take generations but the benefits are plain to see. Freedom to live and work as a citizen of the largest empire in New Eden, protection under the law in the most stable region of high security space in New Eden, the promise to social advancement through service to the Empire. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19842	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:20:00 - [60] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. Because execution collars and mutating viruses that cause painful deaths if not constantly dosed up constitutes decent care, right? There is a reason billions upon billions of Minmatar wanted out, a reason the Federation intervened, and a reason the Jove helped them. That reason is that they are maltreated. To a Caldari wage-slave, perhaps it doesn't seem so bad. After all, most of you spend your lives toiling away for nothing, so poorly treated slaves dying by their millions isn't a concern. Numbers on a spreadsheet. That's all people are to the Caldari. How can you believe that programmes like the HEP are anything close to ethical? Minmatar slaves are butchered by the Amarrians for the slightest of reasons. The Amarrians even funded Sansha's monstrosities. And yet you still have the gall to say that they're not treated that badly. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15465	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:50:00 - [61] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. Because execution collars and mutating viruses that cause painful deaths if not constantly dosed up constitutes decent care, right? There is a reason billions upon billions of Minmatar wanted out, a reason the Federation intervened, and a reason the Jove helped them. That reason is that they are maltreated. To a Caldari wage-slave, perhaps it doesn't seem so bad. After all, most of you spend your lives toiling away for nothing, so poorly treated slaves dying by their millions isn't a concern. Numbers on a spreadsheet. That's all people are to the Caldari. How can you believe that programmes like the HEP are anything close to ethical? Minmatar slaves are butchered by the Amarrians for the slightest of reasons. The Amarrians even funded Sansha's monstrosities. And yet you still have the gall to say that they're not treated that badly. Treatment of slaves varies from Holder to Holder, and even then that depends on the Holder's political views, the political pressures on specific holders, and more so than not their dispositions. You assertions that slaves are butchered by Holder is incorrect and unjust as you cannot support such accusations nor are you privy to the personal life on any such Holder. As for the HEP? While not ethical it yielded certain benefits for the Empire which cannot be denied. Now to suggest the Empire knowingly supported the formation of the Nation is another foolish suggestion and equally as ridiculous as suggesting it was the fault of the Caldari because Kuvakei was born of their bloodlines, or the Federation was to blame for their cultural exchange that may well have shaped Kuvakei's utopian ideals. The thing to remember about the Nation was and remains that every empire see's them as a valid threat and an ethically abhorrent pirate group, and that each empire provided personnel and materials to the campaign in the Stain region to see his fleets and secret enclaves brought low. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1145	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:51:00 - [62] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. To a Caldari wage-slave, perhaps it doesn't seem so bad. After all, most of you spend your lives toiling away for nothing, so poorly treated slaves dying by their millions isn't a concern. Numbers on a spreadsheet. That's all people are to the Caldari. You can't say one thing about slaves without claiming the Caldari are slaves can you? At least we don't kill people because they are randomly selected. Not to mention your P.o.Ws I wouldn't be surprised if a gallente came out to say All Gallentes are gods and Caldari a worms! Oh wait half of that has already been said on more than 7 occasions. RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19847	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:04:00 - [63] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: At least we don't kill people because they are randomly selected. That's because you select all of them. Quote: Not to mention your P.o.Ws Odd that you should mention POW treatment. All the ones you take end up in labour camps, typically until they die, given that mercy is not an attribute the Caldari possess in any great measure. Or any measure at all. Quote: I wouldn't be surprised if a gallente came out to say All Gallentes are gods and Caldari a worms! Oh wait half of that has already been said on more than 7 occasions. What are you claiming I said now? I do notice you don't even bother attempting to defend your suggestion that the Minmatar slaves weren't treated poorly. Do you recognise that you were wrong? The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1145	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:20:00 - [64] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: At least we don't kill people because they are randomly selected. That's because you select all of them. Quote: Not to mention your P.o.Ws Odd that you should mention POW treatment. All the ones you take end up in labour camps, typically until they die, given that mercy is not an attribute the Caldari possess in any great measure. Or any measure at all. Quote: I wouldn't be surprised if a gallente came out to say All Gallentes are gods and Caldari a worms! Oh wait half of that has already been said on more than 7 occasions. What are you claiming I said now? I do notice you don't even bother attempting to defend your suggestion that the Minmatar slaves weren't treated poorly. Do you recognise that you were wrong? 1, According to you the Caldari should not exist because we all kill each other and the last one just commits suicide. 2, I'd rather be in a labour camp than be beaten, raped, and killed by the Gallente. 3, I never said you. I say it's been said you you accuse me of claiming you said it? 4, I never said they were treated well, nor poorly, only that sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. 5. there is two reasons I didn't defend what I didn't say, they are that I didn't say it and your comment that the Caldari are all slaves. RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15466	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:30:00 - [65] - Quote This looks suspisciously like the argument I had with Arkena in last year in YC 114........ I also realised that Raven is a cloned soldier based of Diana Kim..... *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1145	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:35:00 - [66] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This looks suspisciously like the argument I had with Arkena in last year in YC 114........ I also realised that Raven is a cloned soldier based of Diana Kim..... ((You know I have called her crazy on several occasions?)) RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19848	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:43:00 - [67] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: 1, According to you the Caldari should not exist because we all kill each other and the last one just commits suicide. Where has this come from? Quote: 2, I'd rather be in a labour camp than be beaten, raped, and killed by the Gallente. Would you rather be in a labour camp and have the same treatment? Quote: 3, I never said you. I say it's been said you you accuse me of claiming you said it? Many things have been said, most of them irrelevant. Most discussions with you end with you claiming that something was said that I did not say to refute one of my points. How does that work? Would you care to provide a quote on this, anyway? Anyone can say 'Oh, this was said and that was said', but whether it was actually said is another matter entirely. Regardless of whether it was said or not, I do not hold that opinion, and so it is pointless to attempt to use it against me. Quote: 4, I never said they were treated well, nor poorly, only that sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you. 5. there is two reasons I didn't defend what I didn't say, they are that I didn't say it and your comment that the Caldari are all slaves. Do you deny that the slaves are treated in the manners I described? If so, then you are wrong. If not, then you were wrong earlier. Shall we play the semantics game? I never said the Caldari are all slaves. I simply commented that there are a great number of parallels between Caldari wage-slaves and Amarrian slaves. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15467	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:09:00 - [68] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Stuff I doubt either you have even met a Holder before. As such you comments are no more than hearsay and speculation borne of a general cultural bias against slavery and substantiated by low budget holo-films and second hand accounts of the coddled son of the son of the son of a Matari immigrant who claims to have been a slave. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19849	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:20:00 - [69] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Treatment of slaves varies from Holder to Holder, and even then that depends on the Holder's political views, the political pressures on specific holders, and more so than not their dispositions. You assertions that slaves are butchered by Holder is incorrect and unjust as you cannot support such accusations nor are you privy to the personal life on any such Holder. I can absolutely support such accusations as there are numerous well-documented cases of this happening. An entire planet's population was eradicated after one slave rebelled and killed his master. Freighterloads of slaves were killed rather than allowed emancipation after the 9th generation laws. Karsoth ordered the Starkmanir exterminated after survivors were found. Quote: As for the HEP? While not ethical it yielded certain benefits for the Empire which cannot be denied. I'm hardly denying the benefits of the HEP. I'm stating that it did not constitute good treatment of slaves. Quote: Now to suggest the Empire knowingly supported the formation of the Nation is another foolish suggestion and equally as ridiculous as suggesting it was the fault of the Caldari because Kuvakei was born of their bloodlines, or the Federation was to blame for their cultural exchange that may well have shaped Kuvakei's utopian ideals. The thing to remember about the Nation was and remains that every empire see's them as a valid threat and an ethically abhorrent pirate group, and that each empire provided personnel and materials to the campaign in the Stain region to see his fleets and secret enclaves brought low. I will concede that the Amarrians did not want Sansha's Nation to exist. However... It was the Amarrians who funded Kuvakei's experiments. Interestingly, since the advent of Insorum, some of the methodology used to control slaves in the Empire is very similar. Transcranial microcontrollers are based on the same principles as slave implants. Using those to control a slave and force them to work is exactly what the Sansha do. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19849	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:23:00 - [70] - Quote The vicious treatment of slaves and the lack of care from Amarrians killed two of the greatest scientists the cluster has ever seen, as well as crushed a bastion of co-operation between the Caldari and Gallente. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15469	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:40:00 - [71] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The vicious treatment of slaves and the lack of care from Amarrians killed two of the greatest scientists the cluster has ever seen, as well as crushed a bastion of co-operation between the Caldari and Gallente. You could equally morally justify that as two slaves having murdered the scientists, one of many reasons slavery continues to exist within the Empire, by consigning them to the fate of one respectable Hier that arguably before his encounter with the Speaker of Truth, the same speaker PIE escorted through Kor-Azor's region, and was redeemed. Within the Empire the empire there is no law against the exchange of slaves, only the slave taking itself, which was carried out by a neutral entity. Within the Empire that would have been the Kor Azor Heir's right. It it equally fair to lay blame on the State and Federation for pulling their funding and security forces from the project leaving them susceptible to the depredations of pirate organisations....an act that reflects poorly on your own people and not mine. Moreover the Crielere Project itself was rife with corruption and intrigue if you believe the unofficial reports regarding the origins of the Morphite technologies....not something I would hold up as a shining beacon of State-Federation relations. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19852	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:46:00 - [72] - Quote Considering the Caldari openly stole the blueprints from the project, creating the initial instability, blame cannot be laid entirely equally. Regardless of the corporate backstabbing that ultimately sank the Crielere ship, I think we can all agree it was a tragedy. Touvolle and Umailen did not deserve that end. Nobody did. Why were slaves so poorly treated as to die in so short a time? That's hardly done with the goal of religious enlightenment. That's just cruelty. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15470	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:57:00 - [73] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Considering the Caldari openly stole the blueprints from the project, creating the initial instability, blame cannot be laid entirely equally. Regardless of the corporate backstabbing that ultimately sank the Crielere ship, I think we can all agree it was a tragedy. Touvolle and Umailen did not deserve that end. Nobody did. Why were slaves so poorly treated as to die in so short a time? That's hardly done with the goal of religious enlightenment. That's just cruelty. As I said that depends on the disposition of the Holder. The Kor-Azor Heir was, and I put this most respectfully, troubled in his youth and was subject to formal investigation and severely punished for his crimes. This is one example of a what happens when a Holder is not treating his sacred duty with the diligence it deserves. Other examples of Holder's who treat their slaves fairly and with the care they deserve exist, even if more so on a pedestrian scale. I for one do not treat my slaves unfairly, to suggest otherwise would cause me to name you a liar, nor would I treat those belonging to others in a disrespectful manner. Dr Adad's Wild Time, an example of a popular children's holo-show in the Empire, actively teaches the younger generations of Amarr to respect and treat their slaves fairly. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1147	Posted - 2014.12.05 01:04:00 - [74] - Quote I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless. RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15479	Posted - 2014.12.05 01:22:00 - [75] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless. But it does matter. One should strive to live righteously before the eyes of God. In the end we all end up in the same place. Dead. How you get there determines what rewards He gifts unto you after death. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1147	Posted - 2014.12.05 01:26:00 - [76] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless. But it does matter. One should strive to live righteously before the eyes of God. In the end we all end up in the same place. Dead. How you get there determines what rewards He gifts unto you after death. In the end does it even matter? We may burn or freeze, but there is nothing about 'being a repeating video" and therefore we may thrive there too. It only matters the way you look at it and most of the time, it never matters. RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15485	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:02:00 - [77] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless. But it does matter. One should strive to live righteously before the eyes of God. In the end we all end up in the same place. Dead. How you get there determines what rewards He gifts unto you after death. In the end does it even matter? We may burn or freeze, but there is nothing about 'being a repeating video" and therefore we may thrive there too. It only matters the way you look at it and most of the time, it never matters. It always matters. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Dimitri Rascolovitch Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 279	Posted - 2014.12.05 07:52:00 - [78] - Quote True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: True Adamance wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless. But it does matter. One should strive to live righteously before the eyes of God. In the end we all end up in the same place. Dead. How you get there determines what rewards He gifts unto you after death. In the end does it even matter? We may burn or freeze, but there is nothing about 'being a repeating video" and therefore we may thrive there too. It only matters the way you look at it and most of the time, it never matters. It always matters. Always Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15505	Posted - 2014.12.05 09:54:00 - [79] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Always I'll watch the night turn light blue... But it's not the same without you. Because it take two to whisper quietly... The silence isn't so bad till I look at my hands and feel sad.... Cuz the spaces between my fingers are right where yours fit perfectly. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1149	Posted - 2014.12.05 10:22:00 - [80] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Always I'll watch the night turn light blue... But it's not the same without you. Because it take two to whisper quietly... The silence isn't so bad till I look at my hands and feel sad.... Cuz the spaces between my fingers are right where yours fit perfectly. ((This doesn't seem to much of what a templar would say, more like one of Raven's thoughts)) RPG!. The Ultimate Forum Passing-Time MetaGame!

Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 410	Posted - 2014.12.05 19:10:00 - [81] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Always I'll watch the night turn light blue... But it's not the same without you. Because it take two to whisper quietly... The silence isn't so bad till I look at my hands and feel sad.... Cuz the spaces between my fingers are right where yours fit perfectly. Ah, learning all those Gallente classic hits I see. I am ready to serve... . Again...
Dimitri Rascolovitch Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 279	Posted - 2014.12.05 22:26:00 - [82] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Always I'll watch the night turn light blue... But it's not the same without you. Because it take two to whisper quietly... The silence isn't so bad till I look at my hands and feel sad.... Cuz the spaces between my fingers are right where yours fit perfectly. I think lack of amarr vehicles has broken adamance mentally Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19878	Posted - 2014.12.05 22:51:00 - [83] - Quote Adamance was already broken mentally. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1428	Posted - 2014.12.05 22:53:00 - [84] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Adamance was already broken mentally. This I can confirm. *[Level 1 Forums] [Level 100 Caldari Loyalist]* *Master of the Calssault*
Klaus Heissleir Stonetread 9	Posted - 2014.12.11 03:44:00 - [85] - Quote Brother! All the Gallente will die by my rail rifle.


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