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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.10 19:58:00 -
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We have not always fought them...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We have not always fought them... Hmmm historically you might say the Caldari and Gallente have always been at war... if not on the battlefield then culturally and politically since the first of their ancestors introduced themselves as Gallenteans. True, I was speaking battlefield wise... Not culture wise Man's existence is conflict and war. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum Damn you and your quote! Are we talking about all mankind or just the gallente and caldari
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:01:00 -
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Really?
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. That was rhetorical...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.10 22:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Really? Indeed. By man's very nature, and the individuality we Amarr celebrate, its is only logical to perceive the fundamental nature of that individuality to be a conflict. One reason the concept of Uniform Thought amongst my people is so important. Where we see a natural contention and conflict within our very natures, we see a uniformity and peace within our spiritual beliefs by accepting God. That was rhetorical... Not so. We Amarr perceive that there is conflict all around us and seek to right that conflict, we celebrate the knowledge that while we are as people are all individuals we reach the same conclusion in terms of our spirituality. Your truly adamant... This was not about you damn amarr, it was the relations of the gallente and caldari...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:46:00 -
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Laiod Klan wrote:True Adamance wrote:I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved"
- Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:00:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Laiod Klan wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Laiod Klan wrote:True Adamance wrote:I have a whole book of them..... "Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved"
- Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423 I enjoy quotes As do I, but his quotes are placed at times that annoy me Also you misspelled your last name... I think... What do you mean I misspelled it? I think he is referring to your use of a hard C (K) in "Klan", despite the fact that this is, in fact; acceptable phonetic spelling. Uh... No... I've always pronounced it Kla-an Perhaps you are thinking too hard hawk... Enough drinks and it'll make better sense to you
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:00:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship.
The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect.
Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. She speaks the truth! now away with you gallente! Also hawk, can you please stick some of that ISK into my hands instead of my eyes?
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:25:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: War is but a means to and end, one that sees the unity of our two peoples by something far more eternal and secure than kinship.
The last thing I wish for is more conflict. Peace and stability is what we must strive for, and given the history of the Minmatar peoples it seems conflict is the only thing that the Elder's respect.
Impossible. There will always be conflict. It's too deeply ingrained into humanity to bring an end to conflict. She speaks the truth! now away with you gallente! Also hawk, can you please stick some of that ISK into my hands instead of my eyes? But the part where I drive the little ISK tokens through your eyes is the best part! not for me!
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.09.16 16:54:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:A Caldari victory? Please, don't make me laugh. Your ground force is a joke. For all that training you all receive as teenagers through adulthood, it doesn't seem to do you much good. You're getting smashed by a bunch of volunteers . The only time you'd ever win on the battlefield, is if your government were to contract out to notorious private emperyan corporations like Nyan San and pay exorbitant amounts for s platoon of mercs just for individual victories. If it weren't for the fact the the ROE was changed and now we Gallenteans are forced to spend more time defending than attacking because of all of our gained territory, we'd still control all the planets in the war zone from day one to today. You Navy might be passable, but your infantry wouldn't be second rate by even Minmatar standards. Hell even your Navy was defeated not to long ago allowing for full zone control in space by us again. I hope I see you on the battlefield, maybe even make you eat your words.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:50:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:They're jealous of our freedom. Who? The Caldari sure isn't or we'd never had started this war and we'd never would've taken our independence.
The Caldari got Clone tech from guess who... Jove! (Unless the game lore was messed up) Can someone allow me to borrow some History books from both sides of the war? I'd love to take a look and see how they differ.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.21 02:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:True Adamance wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:They're jealous of our freedom. Freedom means nothing until you earn it. It means nothing if you do not know utter subservience. A man who is simply handed his freedom never truly values it. True... There is only one way to have true freedom, that is Anarchy, but nobody wants that. I may not be as 'free' as a Gallente citizen, but I what I have I treasure... Anarchy is not freedom, it is chaos. Truly being free is understanding the celebrating the uniformity of your thought. To know and understand at all times the correct way to act in the just and righteous manner befitting your station for your people, your Empress, and God. The only worthy freedom is spiritual liberation through the Faith. To be truly free is to understand this and know that path. He who is stripped to his very foundations is closest to God and able to transcend their earthly limitations. It is chaos, but you are free. You have only your own self limiting your actions. Nothing dictates your actions, no laws, and for certain people, no religion. I never said I wanted true freedom. The winds guide me to victory and happiness and that is all I need.
"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.04 17:12:00 -
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The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you.
To a Caldari wage-slave, perhaps it doesn't seem so bad. After all, most of you spend your lives toiling away for nothing, so poorly treated slaves dying by their millions isn't a concern. Numbers on a spreadsheet. That's all people are to the Caldari. You can't say one thing about slaves without claiming the Caldari are slaves can you? At least we don't kill people because they are randomly selected. Not to mention your P.o.Ws I wouldn't be surprised if a gallente came out to say All Gallentes are gods and Caldari a worms! Oh wait half of that has already been said on more than 7 occasions.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.04 22:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: At least we don't kill people because they are randomly selected.
That's because you select all of them. Quote: Not to mention your P.o.Ws
Odd that you should mention POW treatment. All the ones you take end up in labour camps, typically until they die, given that mercy is not an attribute the Caldari possess in any great measure. Or any measure at all. Quote: I wouldn't be surprised if a gallente came out to say All Gallentes are gods and Caldari a worms! Oh wait half of that has already been said on more than 7 occasions.
What are you claiming I said now? I do notice you don't even bother attempting to defend your suggestion that the Minmatar slaves weren't treated poorly. Do you recognise that you were wrong? 1, According to you the Caldari should not exist because we all kill each other and the last one just commits suicide.
2, I'd rather be in a labour camp than be beaten, raped, and killed by the Gallente.
3, I never said you. I say it's been said you you accuse me of claiming you said it?
4, I never said they were treated well, nor poorly, only that sir RAVEN WING wrote: The slaves are not treated as bad as the federation would tell you.
5. there is two reasons I didn't defend what I didn't say, they are that I didn't say it and your comment that the Caldari are all slaves.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 22:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:This looks suspisciously like the argument I had with Arkena in last year in YC 114........
I also realised that Raven is a cloned soldier based of Diana Kim..... ((You know I have called her crazy on several occasions?))
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.05 01:04:00 -
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I was thinking why we were arguing
Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed.
I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said.
Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.05 01:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:I was thinking why we were arguing Well I want peaceful coexistence and I am opposed. I started to boil thing down to see who was right and eventually said. Viktor Revon wrote: In the end there will be no wrong and no right, no ruler and no subject. No master nor slave. You are who you lived as and I am who I lived as. At the end of the day all that matters is survival and time, so why argue about who is the evil and who is the good? Those are both opinions, and thus they are useless.
But it does matter. One should strive to live righteously before the eyes of God. In the end we all end up in the same place. Dead. How you get there determines what rewards He gifts unto you after death. In the end does it even matter? We may burn or freeze, but there is nothing about 'being a repeating video" and therefore we may thrive there too. It only matters the way you look at it and most of the time, it never matters.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:
Always
I'll watch the night turn light blue... But it's not the same without you. Because it take two to whisper quietly... The silence isn't so bad till I look at my hands and feel sad.... Cuz the spaces between my fingers are right where yours fit perfectly. ((This doesn't seem to much of what a templar would say, more like one of Raven's thoughts))
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Posted - 2014.12.05 22:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Adamance was already broken mentally. This I can confirm.
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