Alright, I played quite a bit this weekend. One of the major parts of my game is a very aggressive placement of me forging. I like to be somewhere in which I am vulnerable but so are all of the infantry and vehicles.

For about the 10th time (probably significantly more) some Cal scout flies a drop ship to me, gets out, and takes absolutely zero damage for about 2 full clips of my damage modded adv Magsec.

The cal scout "hitbox" needs to be fixed. All scouts should have the minmatar hit box. I'll tell you that I have never stood and took 2 clips from a 1500 HP Amarr Sentinal's side arm and killed it with a proto combat rifle approaching in a fair 1v1. Now, most of the time it has been 2v1 and I always kill the other guy if it isn't a cal scout but as soon as it's time for me to finish the cal scout...well I don't win a great majority of the time. What is ironic is in another match the guy got sniped, it clearly said 17 armor left and I just kept hitting with my magsec while watching the shields regen.


This really needs to be fixed.

I'm truly at the breaking point of quiting this game.

75% of my deaths are suicide (I pop hives and uplink where I want to forge snipe and then suicide and spawn in as Forge), Orbital, or some kind of Bug (i.e. Cal Hit box, lag, etc.). The other 25% are rail snipers in the redline, normal snipers in the redline, normal deaths, forge sniped, and just normal stuff people have to deal with when they become a target when you harass like I do.

I know this is not the first time this has been posted on the forums. Hotfix Charlie needs to make the scout hitbox the same for all scouts and I suggest the minmatar hitbox as a reference.

Would love some empirical evidence though.

complaining! Never! Not you!

Would love some empirical evidence though.

When this came up we went straight to the database and couldn't find any anomalies in the CA scout, it is setup exactly like the other scouts.

We need more data as proof, not just anecdotal evidence.

IgnurableAura (not sure if I spelled that right) made a video about Scouts and Hit Detection.

I'll try and hunt down the link.

No he didn't. He made a video about SG and hit detection.

It proves literally nothing. His hit detection was consistently worse against heavies than CalScouts.

IgnurableAura (not sure if I spelled that right) made a video about Scouts and Hit Detection.

edit: Here's the link.

When this came up we went straight to the database and couldn't find any anomalies in the CA scout, it is setup exactly like the other scouts.

We need more data as proof, not just anecdotal evidence.

The calscout hitbox is fine. Everyone is just jelly of it's slender body.

Serious note:

Hit detection is not perfect and if you're fighting a shield based character you'll notice a lot more shield flares and no damage making people think it's a problem with cal scouts. The armor's hit effect is a lot less noticeable so a gal scout doesn't get as many complaints after it's easily stripped of shields.

just saw a cal scout get struck directly by an orbital on the american server on a domination that ended at 0022-0026

It lived.

There is definitely something fishy with the Cal Scout, it's the only scout that gives me ANY sort of trouble in 1v1 fights.

Gals, Minmatar and Amarr all fall to my Duvolle, but the Cal Scout just laughs through a full clip of it

When this came up we went straight to the database and couldn't find any anomalies in the CA scout, it is setup exactly like the other scouts.

We need more data as proof, not just anecdotal evidence.

No he didn't. He made a video about SG and hit detection.

It proves literally nothing. His hit detection was consistently worse against heavies than CalScouts.

When this came up we went straight to the database and couldn't find any anomalies in the CA scout, it is setup exactly like the other scouts.

We need more data as proof, not just anecdotal evidence.

Translation: complaining about a bug doesn't work, you need connection info and video recording for CCP to fix anything.

There is definitely something fishy with the Cal Scout, it's the only scout that gives me ANY sort of trouble in 1v1 fights.

Gals, Minmatar and Amarr all fall to my Duvolle, but the Cal Scout just laughs through a full clip of it

LOL, I was thinking that it is funny that they don't just watch a match or play themselves and ask US the 7 people that play seriously to record footage in order for them to believe the evidence. We, the players, have to shell out money and time on a dying game in order for them to get info that matters.

It's actually so funny that I am not even mad. Don't worry, put a "ad" out and see who is willing to help me prove it.

problem is though there are quite a few number of players that don't feel the issue either.

Aeon amandi is already doing some testing and recording.

I keep hearing rumors about the Caldari Scout having a different hitbox or something and... Yanno what, to hell with it, let's put it to the test. I have HD video recording equipment and even though I have a lot of artwork to do right now (this is how I feed myself after all) I'll hop on Dust 514 and test this [redacted].

Never know... Might be some validity in it... Collision boxes were bugged when sprinting once so, who knows..

I keep wondering why people say that the shotgun has poor hit detection... I wreck with it, and have no issues. I think the issue is that the reticule is deceiving, as the shotgun doesn't actually spread at all, but instead hits dead center. Instead of pellets it's more like a single slug round.

I believe it's the same issue with the HMG, where it was simply too accurate, and reduced the spread considerably.

When this came up we went straight to the database and couldn't find any anomalies in the CA scout, it is setup exactly like the other scouts.

We need more data as proof, not just anecdotal evidence.

Before the Cal scout gets nerfed by community's stupidity,can someone with a capture card camera gather evidence of the supposed error of hit detection involving the suit?I hear all this talk and see nothing to support it,while i die in a cal scout suit as normal.

problem is though there are quite a few number of players that don't feel the issue either.

Aeon amandi is already doing some testing and recording.

I keep hearing rumors about the Caldari Scout having a different hitbox or something and... Yanno what, to hell with it, let's put it to the test. I have HD video recording equipment and even though I have a lot of artwork to do right now (this is how I feed myself after all) I'll hop on Dust 514 and test this [redacted].

Never know... Might be some validity in it... Collision boxes were bugged when sprinting once so, who knows..

Translation: complaining about a bug doesn't work, you need connection info and video recording for CCP to fix anything.

Alright, I played quite a bit this weekend. One of the major parts of my game is a very aggressive placement of me forging. I like to be somewhere in which I am vulnerable but so are all of the infantry and vehicles.

For about the 10th time (probably significantly more) some Cal scout flies a drop ship to me, gets out, and takes absolutely zero damage for about 2 full clips of my damage modded adv Magsec.

The cal scout "hitbox" needs to be fixed. All scouts should have the minmatar hit box. I'll tell you that I have never stood and took 2 clips from a 1500 HP Amarr Sentinal's side arm and killed it with a proto combat rifle approaching in a fair 1v1. Now, most of the time it has been 2v1 and I always kill the other guy if it isn't a cal scout but as soon as it's time for me to finish the cal scout...well I don't win a great majority of the time. What is ironic is in another match the guy got sniped, it clearly said 17 armor left and I just kept hitting with my magsec while watching the shields regen.


This really needs to be fixed.

I'm truly at the breaking point of quiting this game.

75% of my deaths are suicide (I pop hives and uplink where I want to forge snipe and then suicide and spawn in as Forge), Orbital, or some kind of Bug (i.e. Cal Hit box, lag, etc.). The other 25% are rail snipers in the redline, normal snipers in the redline, normal deaths, forge sniped, and just normal stuff people have to deal with when they become a target when you harass like I do.

I know this is not the first time this has been posted on the forums. Hotfix Charlie needs to make the scout hitbox the same for all scouts and I suggest the minmatar hitbox as a reference.

IgnurableAura (not sure if I spelled that right) made a video about Scouts and Hit Detection.

edit: Here's the link.