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Gloomy Cobra
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.06 05:59:00 -
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Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2406
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:09:00 -
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None of your wishes can be granted until this chap admits that he's a troll, Duna's KDR dips below 25, and Spkr promises to stop eating crayons.
Shoot scout with yes...
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10690
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:15:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:None of your wishes can be granted until this chap admits that he's a troll, Duna's KDR dips below 25, and Spkr promises to stop eating crayons. In other words, for the people who are confused by DUST terms: when hell freezes over and pigs start flying.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Gloomy Cobra
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
66
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:None of your wishes can be granted until this chap admits that he's a troll, Duna's KDR dips below 25, and Spkr promises to stop eating crayons. In other words, for the people who are confused by DUST terms: when hell freezes over and pigs start flying.
First of all i doubt that Panda is wasting his time just to troll, and 2nd of all if you look closer and try to understand you might see what he is trying to say....I skilled into proto swarms and now that their proficiency works it a lot better, but if the fix only included in making the proficiency skill work no problem would've come out from it....Now im not saying that av needs to be weak but the part that i agree with a Panda is that av needs not be the ultimate that most people are trying to make out of it
Anyways, the reason I am asking these question is because you can't really fix things without a complete set up.... Not to be selfish but, I am really tired of having the same fit everyday and being able to look at an enemy/friendly and able to tell what their fit is in 5 seconds. Before the vehicle build, even though av were tough, it was fun to use vehicles cuz the person that had the best module set and skill won those matches. Honestly though who does not get tired of eating the same thing everday, every hour, ever minute? :P
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deezy dabest
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
719
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: In other words, for the people who are confused by DUST terms: when hell freezes over and cats start flying.
Made it more fitting to you.
Why are pigs always the ones that get something special if they fly?
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11643
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:43:00 -
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Gloomy Cobra wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:None of your wishes can be granted until this chap admits that he's a troll, Duna's KDR dips below 25, and Spkr promises to stop eating crayons. In other words, for the people who are confused by DUST terms: when hell freezes over and pigs start flying. First of all i doubt that Panda is wasting his time just to troll, and 2nd of all if you look closer and try to understand you might see what he is trying to say....I skilled into proto swarms and now that their proficiency works it a lot better, but if the fix only included in making the proficiency skill work no problem would've come out from it....Now im not saying that av needs to be weak but the part that i agree with a Panda is that av needs not be the ultimate that most people are trying to make out of it Anyways, the reason I am asking these question is because you can't really fix things without a complete set up.... Not to be selfish but, I am really tired of having the same fit everyday and being able to look at an enemy/friendly and able to tell what their fit is in 5 seconds. Before the vehicle build, even though av were tough, it was fun to use vehicles cuz the person that had the best module set and skill won those matches. Honestly though who does not get tired of eating the same thing everday, every hour, ever minute? :P
Dude I've been a tanker since forevers......while I won't openly mock him.....since I feel it only undermines other tankers, ......good god do some of his suggestions reek for poor balance......
Also we are not getting them. While Rattati has confirmed that a client update is possible its probably pretty bloody unlikely, and of very secondary importance.
As well we have no indication if CCP has even developed the assets even after 12 months of flip flopping around.......even if they have the likelihood of them caring enough to put them in Dust is exponentially lower that if we assume they even bothered or intended to even introduce them.
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
4047
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:47:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:None of your wishes can be granted until this chap admits that he's a troll, Duna's KDR dips below 25, and Spkr promises to stop eating crayons. Poor old Spkr.
I think he was dropped on his head when he was a child.
Repeatedly.
And intentionally.
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Gloomy Cobra
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
66
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:22:00 -
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[/quote] Dude I've been a tanker since forevers......while I won't openly mock him.....since I feel it only undermines other tankers, ......good god do some of his suggestions reek for poor balance......
Also we are not getting them. While Rattati has confirmed that a client update is possible its probably pretty bloody unlikely, and of very secondary importance.
As well we have no indication if CCP has even developed the assets even after 12 months of flip flopping around.......even if they have the likelihood of them caring enough to put them in Dust is exponentially lower that if we assume they even bothered or intended to even introduce them.
[/quote] Thanks for your reply on this matter and not something out of the blue like most have :) still going to wait and see if I can get CCP Rattati can answer at least couple of the questions regarding modules
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11644
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:26:00 -
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Dude I've been a tanker since forevers......while I won't openly mock him.....since I feel it only undermines other tankers, ......good god do some of his suggestions reek for poor balance......
Also we are not getting them. While Rattati has confirmed that a client update is possible its probably pretty bloody unlikely, and of very secondary importance.
As well we have no indication if CCP has even developed the assets even after 12 months of flip flopping around.......even if they have the likelihood of them caring enough to put them in Dust is exponentially lower that if we assume they even bothered or intended to even introduce them.
[/quote] Thanks for your reply on this matter and not something out of the blue like most have :) still going to wait and see if I can get CCP Rattati can answer at least couple of the questions regarding modules[/quote]
I certainly wish you luck but the odds of this succeeding are low.
Before the community can accept the role of HAV in combat..... CCP and the Tanker community first have to sit down, discuss and flesh out what role HAV should be playing on the battlefield.
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10216
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:[...]
This Forum Scrub is ranked 2nd on the Forums?!
FFS, you can't even quote properly.
Long Live The Anime Empire
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens Final Resolution.
80
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Posted - 2014.07.06 09:19:00 -
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Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust?
Some(if not all) of this stuff would require a client side fix, which SONY said they will not allow since CCP decided to leave DUST and work on LEGION. Otherwise you can expect this stuff when pigs start feeding you bacon. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:12:00 -
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He's not your Jesus. Those things are never coming. Do you really expect this game to continue in its growth in the year 2015? |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
3562
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:18:00 -
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Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust?
Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why
Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning
Very unlikely
Very unlikely
If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Yokal Bob
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
511
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
The modules that repaired armour and shields on vehicles need to be reintroduced as they were an important element of the game. It was fun to drive around repping vehicles. It was a unique playstyle of the game and has the potential to bring back some players (providing they keep up to date with the goings on of Dust).
The only reason the logistics vehicles were removed was because the logistics LAVs were monsterously overpowered. they could drive through everything providing they didn't get stuck somewhere. With the current AV/V balance it would be safe to bring them back, same with the enforcers.
The racial varients are needed to complete the game in terms of factions as is heavy weapon racial variants. Perhaps move some staff working on Legion back to Dust will go a long way. Certainly would restore some lost faith in CCP at the current time.
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:41:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
Might aswell stop playing dust
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6147
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:42:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
Logistics LAVs were kinda useful when they weren't being abused at every turn. The built in remote infantry repairer was pretty interesting when it wasn't being applied to the driver, who was usually a Heavy.... that and the fact that the Logistics LAVs were nigh indestructible...
Actually, to be completely honest, I'd much prefer if we just left those out... Offload the support role to the Axis repair tool so it can be used to repair vehicles, give WP for it, let some of those Minmatar Logi guys go to town. Just my personal opinion though.
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.06 16:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
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PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
7
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Posted - 2014.07.06 17:13:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance.
If you bring back my enforcer so I can enforce these proto stompers......... :) |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:01:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. Might aswell stop playing dust Wait for legion instead Legion will probably just be more of the same. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1112
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:04:00 -
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Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
1) -When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
2) -When will we get the logi vehicles back?
3) -Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
4) - Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
5) - Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust?
1) Good question. It would be nice to have them back - but NOT brought in a hurry!
2) Good question. It would be nice to have them back - but NOT brought in a hurry!
3) Too far-fetched. Irrelevant.
4) Too far-fetched. Irrelevant.
5) Too far-fetched. Irrelevant.
:-S
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:27:00 -
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Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in? That was done to reduce the variety that pilots have. There wasn't any "noise." You worked out fits and discovered what was best for you and what you like to do. It was done simply to reduce variety.
-When will we get the logi vehicles back? We won't, because anything with inherent defense is declared OP by infantry, and thus will not be allowed back into the game. If it cannot easily be destroyed by MLT AV, then we cannot have it.
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust? No, because that would increase the options available, plus likely including the racial turrets as well, and infantry cannot allow more options for pilots.
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit? That was declared OP before we even saw any potential slot layout, and if those modules would go to further improve the vehicle. Simply by its passive skills, infantry declared it OP, and CCP in usual fashion bowed to them (simply because they're the majority community - basically dictatorship), and said that they would take them out for "reworking," which in CCP-speak means 'never'.
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? No, anything that can easily destroy a dropship (thanks you terrible pilot) or a supply depot has too much power, and therefore is OP (only if you're a bad dropship pilot who doesn't roll with any kind of help at all). Also, tankers cannot be allowed to have anything with defenses that are too high, otherwise it might be a challenge for Johnny Bluedot with Darkside swarms, therefore variety has to be minimal, offensive capabilities have to be minimal, and defensive capabilities have to be minimal, because the best fit tanks with the best pilots must be easy to destroy by a single person with MLT swarms. Anything more is OP, and must be nerfed through the ground.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10223
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:29:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote: Am I wrong?
Yes, as always Spkr4TheDead.
Long Live The Anime Empire
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3403
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:29:00 -
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Oh god please not again the murder taxis that run every 1 over and need to be shot by 3 breach forgeguns to be destroyed. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DontChimpOut wrote: Am I wrong?
Yes, as always Spkr4TheDead. Oh really now? That's a big accusation there. |
Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10223
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:36:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Atiim wrote:DontChimpOut wrote: Am I wrong?
Yes, as always Spkr4TheDead. Oh really now? That's a big accusation there. But entirely plausible.
Your the only other pilot on the Forums who references 'Darkside' Swarm Launchers besides Spkr4TheDead, and your syntax is identical to him you.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
838
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:45:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:[quote=Gloomy Cobra]
Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why
Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning
If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. The modules that repaired armour and shields on vehicles need to be reintroduced as they were an important element of the game. It was fun to drive around repping vehicles. It was a unique playstyle of the game and has the potential to bring back some players (providing they keep up to date with the goings on of Dust). The only reason the logistics vehicles were removed was because the logistics LAVs were monsterously overpowered. they could drive through everything providing they didn't get stuck somewhere. With the current AV/V balance it would be safe to bring them back, same with the enforcers. The racial varients are needed to complete the game in terms of factions as is heavy weapon racial variants. Perhaps move some staff working on Legion back to Dust will go a long way. Certainly would restore some lost faith in CCP at the current time.
True but some things need to change , like the mechanics of the shield boosters should be how the energizers work and the boosters need to go back to the way that they worked during 1.6 . One pulse should be for the chargers and energizers because they were useless during pre 1.7 , they functioned so slowly and yes I knew that it was passive but those thing were horrible . The previous boosters would reap threw damage as long as the mod was active and that was what and how the mechanics should have stayed . I for one think that they are useless now , wouldn't waste the programming for one cycle .
With the way that shield charge is now a skill , the passive actions of energizers and rechargers might work now but it might work better as an active mod with the actions of the current booster .
It would be nice to have the shield and armor hardeners to have the scale from basic to prototype like how the vehicle damage mods were changed .
The spider actions were nice and that would be good .
It use to be hard for me to notice or activate the shield rep mod on the Logi LAV and the regular mod . Trying to move and turn seems like it had to be done slowly and not with sudden movement or the connection would break for me , if I could get it locked to begin with .
Anti-vehicle balance is so nice now that whatever flaws that the previous vehicles had should be easily noticeable now so that they could be fixed .
It's not overpowering like it was pre 1.7 .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
838
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:50:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Oh god please not again the murder taxis that run every 1 over and need to be shot by 3 breach forgeguns to be destroyed. Yeah they were strong but they just need to bring the resistance numbers down and keep those numbers for the Proto vehicles .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2247
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:52:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. Might aswell stop playing dust Wait for legion instead
Sir, give me the keys to your tank, NOW
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:Atiim wrote:DontChimpOut wrote: Am I wrong?
Yes, as always Spkr4TheDead. Oh really now? That's a big accusation there. But entirely plausible. Your the only other pilot on the Forums who references 'Darkside' Swarm Launchers besides Spkr4TheDead, and your syntax is identical to him you. Oh, so proper typing means I'm somebody? There's over 7 billion people on the planet, yet you're so certain I'm that one person? Maybe you should be a psychic or something. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.07.06 18:55:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:Please answer these questions if you can :)
-When will we get the rest of the vehicle modules that have been taken out to 'reduce the noise' back in?
-When will we get the logi vehicles back?
-Will we ever get the rest of the vehicle racial for dust?
- Will we ever get the infamous pilot suit?
- Will we ever get any other vehicles other than the variants we already have for dust? Not sure, will listen to vehicle player feedback on what could/should be reintroduced first and why Not sure, I wasn't around when they were removed, need to understand the reasoning Very unlikely Very unlikely If you mean the Enforcer and those variants, maybe, if they don't ruin balance. Might aswell stop playing dust Wait for legion instead Sir, give me the keys to your tank, NOW Doesn't mean you'll be able to use it well. |
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