Scanning is far stronger than dampening.
While dampening hides just the specific unit, scanning reveals the location of the entire enemy team.

To hide a team from ONE scanner, you need the entire team to be dampened.


And even worse, the scanning is shared within the squad, increasing the effect it has on the battlefield that much more.





-Meows and drops the mic

Scanning is far stronger than dampening.
While dampening hides just the specific unit, scanning reveals the location of the entire enemy team.

To hide a team from ONE scanner, you need the entire team to be dampened.


And even worse, the scanning is shared within the squad, increasing the effect it has on the battlefield that much more.





-Meows and drops the mic

I swear to God if you nerf my Cal Scout after you nerfed my Gallente Logi, my Gallente assault, and my Caldari assault I may actually throw my PS3 out the window.

I swear to God if you nerf my Cal Scout after you nerfed my Gallente Logi, my Gallente assault, and my Caldari assault I may actually throw my PS3 out the window.

Gal Assault was never one of the best choices.

It's one of the few suits that really haven't been buffed or nerfed. Just one useless skill swapped out for another useless skill.

If anything the Gal Assault has been improved a wee bit due to the armor repair buff and armor changes.


Try again.

The cal scout does need a nerf, and this is coming from a very scout-ward leaning scout

the nerf would be to fix its hit box, or whatever is wrong with it so that it only takes 40 damage from a shotgun blast at 5m, and make its max (4 prec enhancers) scanning potential only able to pick up a scout if they didn't have 2x damps and a cloak (unless its a gal scout, in which case they only need 2 damps)

That'll fix the spam without ruining the suit, and keeping it very OP

I personally like this particular proposal.

While it nerfs Cal scouts with 1 or 2 enhancer, it results in no change for the 3rd and 4th enhancer. Similarly for the range amp, where it nerfs no amps to 1 amps, there is no change for 2.

The same is similar to Gal scouts, with no damps and 1 damp being a nerf, and no change above 1.

Plus it attempts to buff minmatar and give amarr a role.

Scanning is definitely OP as it stands with shared scanning that won't be turned off anytime soon because its a client side change. Something needs done, but this proposal doesn't get too crazy, and still rewards those willing to make the sacrifice by adding mods, while it nerfs those unwilling to sacrifice tank or other mods.

Also- just because a scout made to scan enemies can scan you in your freking Minmatar or Amarr scout doesn't mean it needs a nerf (it's suppose to scan you).

The "it's supposed to" argument is not a good one,, as one could also say that all Light Frames "are supposed to" evade scanners, hence the better eWAR capabilities. Not to mention that one could use the "it's supposed to scan you" argument to bring back the 1.6 Active Scanners.

Caldari Scouts aren't the only things that need a nerf though The real culprit is Shared Squad Vision and Passive Scanners in general.

Seeing everything and having your squad see everything>not being seen and having to gimp yourself to do it.

I didn't say don't nerf squad vision. Im just saying don't nerf the caldari scout directly.

Sigh.

What don't you get about shared scanning not being able to be taken out? Its not an option. Most people agree its a problem, and yet Rattati has explicitly stated its not happening anytime soon. Therefore the only recourse is to adjust the Cal scout.

Sigh.

What don't you get about shared scanning not being able to be taken out? Its not an option. Most people agree its a problem, and yet Rattati has explicitly stated its not happening anytime soon. Therefore the only recourse is to adjust the Cal scout.

Just because a cal scout with 3 complex precision modules can scan you while you are using two only tells me 1 thing. You are too lazy to fight electronically.

If a Cal scout has to give up multiple slots where it could have fitted shield extenders just to scan you, you should have to do the same to stay unscanned.

Also- just because a scout made to scan enemies can scan you in your freking Minmatar or Amarr scout doesn't mean it needs a nerf (it's suppose to scan you).


FYI- Dampening is much stronger than scanning. A Enhanced dampening module is = to a complex Precision module (they both do 20%).
Also- base scanning for scouts starts at 40 while dampening starts at 35. Also, cloaks give you passive dampening (except for STD)


Random, off topic, stuff....

1.) buff minmatar scouts PG- KinCats take a ridiculous amount of PG, 3 complex KinCats take up over 50% of a proto Minmatar scouts PG!!! that doesn't even include the Shield extenders which take up 11pg a pop of the available 35 pg...

2.) Amarr scout- Rof bonus to Scrambler pistol and longer duration of cloaks per level.

10% Rof bonus to ScP per level
15% Duration bonus to cloaks per level.

Proto-45> 78.75 seconds
ADV-30> 52.52 seconds
STD-15> 26.25 seconds

EDIT: Cloak dampening is too low. Needs to be raised

STD-0%->5%
ADV-5%->10%
PRO-10%->15%

50% ROF increase for SCP? Ya right. Thats crazy. 50%? ******........

Yes, at least the features board had a amazing idea.

Tie scout bonuses to the module so they at least have to equip eWar mods to get the full usage.

saying it cannot be done is like saying man will never step on the moon. If CCP can make DUST, why can they not take out this out?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

ALL Scouts have too many high and low slots. Plus way too much CPU and PG.

For a light suit they can equip every slot...... that is kinda BS.

Scouts should have at top tier 1 high and 2 low slot, and half the CPU/PG. You are a light suit why should you get more slots and PG/CPU than a medium?

No I do not care. You scouts are way to OP.