In so many of the HMG discussions we hear from HMG loyalist terms like "I" and "ME" and "MY" when describing how HMG Hevs can be beaten. If it were simply a lone HMG, we the non hevs at large would quickly oblige and beat it in all the manners suggested.

However, the truth of the matter is that it is "WE" and "US" and "OUR" where the HMG problem arises.

The HMG Conga Line.

I actually witnessed in one dom match an entire squad worth of HMGers, one behind the other, stalking away from the objective in the Biomass facility. There were four HMGs and two reppers (each repping two HMGs) all literally in a line parading through the far corners of the facility going 4v1 on every enemy they met, even when the enemy were in groups.

In another, I watched three HMGs pa-trolling the Orbital Artillery compound together like scouts rather than defending a point. And in yet another, a hard fought objective capture in the Communications outpost, one that took nearly the entire team and entire match to achieve, and was thereafter defended by the entire team, became completely undone when the enemy spammed five HMGS in the closing moments of the match.

Yes, a single HMG can be dealt with by even a single assault. But add a second and third HMG coming around the corner and it quickly becomes an exercise in futility. More HMGs increase the problem of low risk high reward domination exponentially.

So when balancing of HMGs is being discussed, the effect on battlefield dynamics by multiple simultaneous HMG heavies must be considered.

This guy gets it.

The effect of heavies in groups grows far more rapidly than the same for a group of assaults or even scouts.

A solo heavy is easy to kill.

A heavy/logi is harder to kill than two assaults.

Dual heavy + logi = might as well press the suicide button.

What happens when a heavy squad ventures outside of cover in a city map? Light weapons on the high ground waiting for them! That's what they do in a PC match against us.

You, this Elite vet, b!tching and whining too about heavies. Laughable. Please don't press the suicide button, what a loss that would be.

If you don't like to play stop b!tching about and don't play.

Time for shady acres retirement home for you.

So tldr: I want to beat a heavy 1 v 1 or possibly 4 solo in a scout fit. It annoys me that they have been able to react for a while now. I'd also like to go back to solo ing sentinels with an mlt smg.

Well, I'd expect nothing less of idiots trickling in 1 after the other trying to solo that.

Great argument bro.

Those 4 heavies can dominate two squads of assaults and scouts at the same time.
I have seen it happen in a proto stomp match where both sides brought out full on proto gear.

Those 4 heavies can dominate two squads of assaults and scouts at the same time.
I have seen it happen in a proto stomp match where both sides brought out full on proto gear.

You, this Elite vet, b!tching and whining too about heavies. Laughable. Please don't press the suicide button, what a loss that would be.

If you don't like to play stop b!tching about and don't play.

Time for shady acres retirement home for you.

I purposely do not run heavy against heavies as it's mostly like a very fat kid beating another fat kid with a turkey leg. Ppl complain because they want to have every suit be viable in a stand up fight against every other suit. This is not the case, think of your suit vs the map vs the enemy vs the engagement and find ways to win. Stop trying to bum rush the anti bum rush suit.

1 Counter--multiple snipers :D

you dumbass..

I had some respect for you Jagermeister but you've officially worn out your novelty.

Not really true.

My regen isn't fast enough to juke him; if he hits me for a quarter-second I'm regenning for about ten seconds.

Assuming I survive.

I'm just saying that there are certain situations where certain things are supposed to shine. I feel like so many ppl complain about not being able to beat down a heavy in his own environment