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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:54:00 -
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This guy gets it.
The effect of heavies in groups grows far more rapidly than the same for a group of assaults or even scouts.
A solo heavy is easy to kill.
A heavy/logi is harder to kill than two assaults.
Dual heavy + logi = might as well press the suicide button.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 18:52:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:This guy gets it.
The effect of heavies in groups grows far more rapidly than the same for a group of assaults or even scouts.
A solo heavy is easy to kill.
A heavy/logi is harder to kill than two assaults.
Dual heavy + logi = might as well press the suicide button. You, this Elite vet, b!tching and whining too about heavies. Laughable. Please don't press the suicide button, what a loss that would be. If you don't like to play stop b!tching about and don't play. Time for shady acres retirement home for you.
Not bitching and whining.
I am just as guilty of this as anyone else.
I was logi-ing for four proto heavies in a Gal Research Facility Domination earlier today.
I'm terrible at being an actual logi, so I didn't quite break 5k WP.
I know exactly how ridiculous this strategy is.
Unlike any other tactic in the game at this point, it is uncounterable except by itself.
If I fill the room with REs, they can be fluxed.
If I fill the room with clacked scouts, I can use my damn eyes.
No amount of fluxes or eyes will allow you to kill 4k EHP of armour before it shreds you at 2400 DPS.
You bring fewer proto heavies than me? GG, focused fire = you die really quickly.
Good luck getting scouts in there; we're watching all the entries with our massive reticules of insta death.
Have fun with assaults; we have twice as much EHP as you do and about 75% more DPS, and your silly strafing doesn't matter inside.
You decided to OB? Well, have fun with the Amarr Logistics proto spawns I've placed in strategic locations (i.e. Far apart enough that you can't get them all with one OB).
If we'd had a wallhacking EWAR scout we'd have been set.
Unfortunately that's usually my job recently.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 18:54:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:I purposely do not run heavy against heavies as it's mostly like a very fat kid beating another fat kid with a turkey leg. Ppl complain because they want to have every suit be viable in a stand up fight against every other suit. This is not the case, think of your suit vs the map vs the enemy vs the engagement and find ways to win. Stop trying to bum rush the anti bum rush suit.
Not really true.
My regen isn't fast enough to juke him; if he hits me for a quarter-second I'm regenning for about ten seconds.
Assuming I survive.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.26 00:29:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Reign Omega wrote:I purposely do not run heavy against heavies as it's mostly like a very fat kid beating another fat kid with a turkey leg. Ppl complain because they want to have every suit be viable in a stand up fight against every other suit. This is not the case, think of your suit vs the map vs the enemy vs the engagement and find ways to win. Stop trying to bum rush the anti bum rush suit. Not really true. My regen isn't fast enough to juke him; if he hits me for a quarter-second I'm regenning for about ten seconds. Assuming I survive. I'm just saying that there are certain situations where certain things are supposed to shine. I feel like so many ppl complain about not being able to beat down a heavy in his own environment
I appreciate that, and I agree.
But there has to be a counter.
There isn't really one.
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