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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:38:00 -
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The Rainbow Affect wrote:[quote=NIETZCHES OVERMAN][quote=The Rainbow Affect][quote=NIETZCHES OVERMAN][quote=The Rainbow Affect]
Do you really expect me to care that much?
We mostly did it for the ISK, and the chance to rid MH of passive isk farming, (mostly casue we didn't get it ourselves...) both objectives reached...
Lol first you said it was to stop passive isk gain.... 2 things are clear 1 you dont knkw what you are talking about and 2 you will lie. You didnt do anything except what you were told. Just like FA was told after their surrender and entry into DNS that they couldnt hold districts, and they did what they were told. If you domt know what you are talking about, and I venture to say you dont even know who the hell Black is, then please just stfu?
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3144
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:43:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Also, you obviously have your roles wrong because there's no such thing as a slayer. That's far too general a term.
"Slayers kill people"- so you could be a shocktroop, a defensive area-denier, offensive area-denier, vehicle-based offensive area denier, AVer.... slayers kill people.....which is why you should specify your role over your suit. I mean, common sense dictates that if you're a heavy or an ADS or a tanker, you should specify that. But if you're a scout that kills, a logi that kills, an assault that kills then you should classify yourself as an assault/slayer An "assault slayer" could be literally anything listed, aside from vehicle-based. A "sentinel slayer" could also be anything aside from shock. So "slayer" definitely isn't specific enough. I also posted in the same post.....that "common sense dictates that if you're a heavy or an ADS or a tanker, you should specify that". Everything else is an assault/slayer role. Frames hardly spell out anything by themselves. What a fitting is capable of is about the combination of weapons as well as dropsuit. A shotgun assault isn't capable of offensive area-denial, but they're great at defensive area-denial (given the right area), and mediocre shock. A shotgun scout, meanwhile, can pull off the shock role quite well, while doing mediocre defensive area-denial.
I'm not sure of the point that you're trying to make....it almost sounds like you're making my point for me.
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Michael Arck
4830
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:00:00 -
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Well Dubbs, you're just a different beast of a player. For you KDR and such matters most. Those translate to you as what the mercenary can produce cause you probably, more than likely, come from a long career of FPS games where KDR is THE stat that defines the player.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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The Rainbow Affect
The Rainbow Effect
Dirt Nap Squad.
30
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:01:00 -
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:The Rainbow Affect wrote:[quote=NIETZCHES OVERMAN][quote=The Rainbow Affect][quote=NIETZCHES OVERMAN]
Lol first you said it was to stop passive isk gain.... 2 things are clear 1 you dont knkw what you are talking about and 2 you will lie. You didnt do anything except what you were told. Just like FA was told after their surrender and entry into DNS that they couldnt hold districts, and they did what they were told. If you domt know what you are talking about, and I venture to say you dont even know who the hell Black is, then please just stfu?
Well first off, I've never cared for the EVE side of it all, thats why we're still in DNS after all this time. We haven't gotten around to leave EVE side yet which means our Dust corp still is in DNS. At the time, entering DNS was merely a practical matter so they didn't have to put details of all those CB's in multiple channels.
I haven't lied, we did set out to stop passive isk farming, that part was clear from the start, it was Kain's baby and we agreed, and we did earn a lot of isk doing so, which was a neccissary incentive. So tell me what lie I told, I'm curious.
Do you seriously think that Black or even Kain where the one's making it all possible? Really? Tells me how little you know.
Do you know how many isk a week FA got for not holding any districts? Or indeed, how many isk we in TRE got for the same?
Most of DNS couldn't give a rats arse about Black, its merely a name, and a dude most of us either laughed at or couldn't care less about....
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5376
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:19:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
slayers kill people.....which is why you should specify your role over your suit. I mean, common sense dictates that if you're a heavy or an ADS or a tanker, you should specify that. But if you're a scout that kills, a logi that kills, an assault that kills then you should classify yourself as an assault/slayer
An "assault slayer" could be literally anything listed, aside from vehicle-based. A "sentinel slayer" could also be anything aside from shock. So "slayer" definitely isn't specific enough. I also posted in the same post.....that "common sense dictates that if you're a heavy or an ADS or a tanker, you should specify that". Everything else is an assault/slayer role. Frames hardly spell out anything by themselves. What a fitting is capable of is about the combination of weapons as well as dropsuit. A shotgun assault isn't capable of offensive area-denial, but they're great at defensive area-denial (given the right area), and mediocre shock. A shotgun scout, meanwhile, can pull off the shock role quite well, while doing mediocre defensive area-denial. I'm not sure of the point that you're trying to make....it almost sounds like you're making my point for me.
My point is that "slayer" isn't a role, neither is "assault/slayer" or "heavy/slayer" because it's too nonspecific.
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Egonz4
371
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:26:00 -
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Yes cuz that could mean that he kills a lot while dies a lot and just does what is fun....ya know cuz dust is just a game!.....a high kdr usually means redline sniper, Tank stomper, or proto stomper...aka tryhards that need a life
Master of The Flaylock
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3148
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:53:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
What a fitting is capable of is about the combination of weapons as well as dropsuit.
A shotgun assault isn't capable of offensive area-denial, but they're great at defensive area-denial (given the right area), and mediocre shock. A shotgun scout, meanwhile, can pull off the shock role quite well, while doing mediocre defensive area-denial.
I'm not sure of the point that you're trying to make....it almost sounds like you're making my point for me. My point is that "slayer" isn't a role, neither is "assault/slayer" or "heavy/slayer" because it's too nonspecific.
slayer isn't a role?? We'll just call it assault then..unless you have another name for it.
I've gotten used to calling that particular role, "slayer" because assault may be confusing since guys started using different suits to fulfill that role.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3148
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:56:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Yes cuz that could mean that he kills a lot while dies a lot and just does what is fun....ya know cuz dust is just a game!.....a high kdr usually means redline sniper, Tank stomper, or proto stomper...aka tryhards that need a life
You seem like the guy on the outside of a conversation and just says anything just to get in. Don't worry though...happens to most...I've been there :)
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
238
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:58:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Don't look at KDR, WP/death (takes a little work to calculate), is what someone should look at, if they believe in any stats.
However, recorded stats are unreliable.
Players who primarily go solo (yours truly) will almost always have worse stats than people who run squads all the time.
Other players use some under-powered weapons for sport, or in preparation for them getting over-buffed (also yours truly).
Other players also put winning over WP, by doing necessary but low-wp roles (not me, **** my teammates)
Or, crash dropships and LAVs for fun when a match is crap.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
4340
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:00:00 -
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KDR does not mean sh*t there is a certain acceptability level, but a person with a 4 KDR and 8 KDR will not have that high of difference in performance in PC, coming from someone who has done hundreds of PC matches. LOL i've seen proto stompers with 7+ KDR's go negative every other match, KDR does not transfer to PC. KDR is such a easy stat to manipulate also.
Viktor for CPM
I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 51Mil SP)
Chat Channel: Vik PC
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
238
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:02:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:True Adamance wrote:KDR means jack all.
Can you get your job done? That's all the matters. what job is that? Whatever job you ask the contracted mercenary to achieve. Frankly if I was every to hire out players for a some reason it would be to achieve a specific goal. I would establish that before the contract, and interview potential applicants to determine which could best achieve the goal. In that sense having high KDR means nothing if you can't get to the objective and fulfil your role. If you don't achieve the goal you don't get paid for it. Additionally under most circumstance if I don't know that's players abilities how do I know how to best use them? Having a higher KDR means that you are killing more than you are dying.....it is safe to assume that you may be alive long enough to reach the objective. If you can't stay alive, it is much harder to cap and hold objectives, correct?
Or, you are not fulfilling a killing role. Like it matters in this game though right? Kill, kill, kill. Win, win, win.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4023
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:09:00 -
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Area Cleanse and Denial.
All Roles/Classes.
Positive KDR, despite my love of running headlong into a gunfight.
I don't need my gameplay approved by anyone else.
With me or against me, it will be a fight and I will do what is necessary to secure the Victory.
TL,DR: Come find out about it, bruh.
(Did I do it right? Ha Ha, almost made you think I give a ****.)
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3148
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:50:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:KDR does not mean sh*t there is a certain acceptability level, but a person with a 4 KDR and 8 KDR will not have that high of difference in performance in PC, coming from someone who has done hundreds of PC matches. LOL i've seen proto stompers with 7+ KDR's go negative every other match, KDR does not transfer to PC. KDR is such a easy stat to manipulate also.
You may be right when you talk about the difference between a 4 and an 8 KDR. But there is a difference between a 3 or 4 KDR and a 1 KDR player.
KD doesn't always translate to pcs because KD doesn' t matter in a pc match plus the competitive level is different in a pc match than a pub. But when recruiting or using ringers that you don't know....higher KD implies a certain level of competence.
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Egonz4
375
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:15:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Yes cuz that could mean that he kills a lot while dies a lot and just does what is fun....ya know cuz dust is just a game!.....a high kdr usually means redline sniper, Tank stomper, or proto stomper...aka tryhards that need a life You seem like the guy on the outside of a conversation and just says anything just to get in. Don't worry though...happens to most...I've been there :)
No I usually try to stay off the forums cuz its full of whiners, try hards and people who think kdr matters
Master of The Flaylock
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