I've played 46 Domination games in the last two days (I kept track), and all of the matches--I do mean "ALL"--were one-sided proto stomps. What gives? Do players actually enjoy running Caldari Scouts and Heavies that much?

Is it fun to camp the only opposing spawn uplink with 6+ Heavies and various shotgun Scouts? Are they competing to see who can get the best record or something? What about redlining? Is bombarding the enemy redline with orbitals that satisfying?

What are these players trying to achieve? Why are they trying so hard to win? It's understanable if the opposing team had an equally skilled set of players or squads, but no. These stompers want to give their all against groups of NPC corp randoms and solo players.

I don't get it.

Ive found that all the stompers moved to domination after tanks got removed from ambush and people started quitting, so I started playing skirm and recently ambush and its much better.

The better question is whats with all the not putting up a fight and hideing in the redline snipping like fools.

see stomps happen for two reasons yes one is cause threre is squads of PC corps proto stomping but all so you have to look at the team getting stomped to why are they no where near the letter why are they running around trying to hipfire a sniper rifle why are they calling in 6 tanks to drive around and not hack anything

why do they not put down uplinks why does that freaking guy who is 2-24 keep ******* spawning in so you get cloned out?

I've played 46 Domination games in the last two days (I kept track), and all of the matches--I do mean "ALL"--were one-sided proto stomps. What gives? Do players actually enjoy running Caldari Scouts and Heavies that much?

Is it fun to camp the only opposing spawn uplink with 6+ Heavies and various shotgun Scouts? Are they competing to see who can get the best record or something? What about redlining? Is bombarding the enemy redline with orbitals that satisfying?

What are these players trying to achieve? Why are they trying so hard to win? It's understanable if the opposing team had an equally skilled set of players or squads, but no. These stompers want to give their all against groups of NPC corp randoms and solo players.

I don't get it.

The better question is whats with all the not putting up a fight and hideing in the redline snipping like fools. see stomps happen for two reasons yes one is cause threre is squads of PC corps proto stomping but all so you have to look at the team getting stomped to why are they no where near the letter why are they running around trying to hipfire a sniper rifle why are they calling in 6 tanks to drive around and not hack anything why do they not put down uplinks why does that freaking guy who is 2-24 keep ******* spawning in so you get cloned out?

Let me enlighten you. Most 'stompers' are 'vet'. They have a pocket full of quarters with no candy to buy. They feel if they don't spend all those quarters, someone will steal them(CCP).
I have been stomping since 'end of world announcment'. I have been making MORE ISKIES then ever before. There is just something about killing 50 mercs in one match. Go big or go home!
You have been enlightened!

Domination has turned to crap since Hotfix Bravo. I recently played a match that had two organized squads from Outer.Heaven/Inner Hell and Molon Labe. The turn out was awful, but the sad thing is that my team actually tried to fight.

I was the primary Uplink user in that game and I gained well over 1000 WP from my team of blueberries as they constantly spawned in and tried to fight for the objective. However, that match was nothing compared to the Nyain San, Gods Among Men, and SAIUKI game I played. By the time the match ended, our team was down to 12 clones and the other was at 140.

Blues weren't even sniping. They were all on the front-lines, trying to put up a fight. It was both sad and frustrating.

its sad that you enjoy it, there is NO challenge or skill to running a proto sqaud in pubs. all your doing is padding your ego because you suck to much to do anything else. Try running frontline again, or better yet try starting a fresh alt without the SP and see how good you are..... see how much fun it is to have 3 proto boundless heavies come after you......

Been happening quite a bit lately where two que synched squads dominate with protoers... As if one squad was bad enough, but I guess with the way things are going, why not go out with a bang hmm?

By the time the match ended, our team was down to 12 clones and the other was at 140.

Blues weren't even sniping. They were all on the front-lines, trying to put up a fight. It was both sad and frustrating.

^ Here is proof of what ive been saying.

A few people in this thread blame the "blues" and name a bunch of things, like redline sniping, as examples that cause people to lose games.

It dosent matter what the "blues" do. Cause even when they adopt your favorite style of run and gun, it still yields the same results. One side has vastly superior weapons, experience, and tactics.

On a side note, thats kind of why I enjoy Factional. Im always up against better players, equipment, and tactics, but theres also people on my team with better stuff too, so the battle is always turning tides. Problem is its a ISK sink, and I cant use Prox mines against tanks cause some clown on my team will suicide on them and get me tossed from the game.

There are two types of people still playing Dust:

1.) Players not good enough to have fun at other FPS, or are too attached to their precious SP advantage to move to a game where they might have to fight relatively fair.

2.) New players who don't know dust is dead, and are trying to get some F2P action.

Group 1 murders group 2 because they couldn't do it anywhere else, so they go hard in Dust.

There are two types of people still playing Dust:

1.) Players not good enough to have fun at other FPS, or are too attached to their precious SP advantage to move to a game where they might have to fight relatively fair.

2.) New players who don't know dust is dead, and are trying to get some F2P action.

Group 1 murders group 2 because they couldn't do it anywhere else, so they go hard in Dust.

You sound like someone who has never been on the receiving end of a stomp. Otherwise you would damn well know how effective a Militia AR is against a proto suit that has extra damage output and extra defensive power. You would know that being able to just melt the sheilds off one of these guys is a herculean task. Then you have to factor in the fact that there will be 6 of them together. Of course people are going to retreat and snipe when in a situation like that!



No, stomps happen for 1 reason. A corp full of proto players sends squads to go and fight new players in Public Contracts. It hurts player retention and stunts community growth. All those things you named are the results of players doing frantic things just to survive.

They have tried to hack letters, only for a invisible scout to back**** them. They hipfire the sniper rifle cause they decided to come out of the redline and someone else advanced on them, salivating for a easy kill. (someone who will likely complain about red line snipers down the road). They call in and drive around tanks cause thats their only chance to finish the game in the black instead of in the red.



Because if he camps out the rest of the game in the MCC all the "vets" will come here and throw temper tantrums about "AFK players" and "cowards who refuse to fight" and such.

Lol, I'm even better at CoD than i am at dust, so where do i fall?

LOL you act like i was never a new player and never seen a proto stomp. when i was a new player these vets were trying to take my head off every day but it didn't make me run in the redline and snipe because how would i ever learn to beat them some day. What it did was tuffen me up made me learn better tactics and gun game and how to make a suit to survive. In my old clan on bf3 i used to make my guys fight team USA a let them get stomped trial by fire and it made them into the killers they are to day. I can see you didn't learn anything from your stompings cause your still complaining about this a year later.

The better question is what around the matchmaking system consistently stacks teams one sided.

This isn't some random occurrence that happens here and there in DUST, it's something that happens in majority.

Rarely will you get what looks like a random allocation of players, you will have one side frequently filled with names that have been around for 6 months+ and the other side filled with NPC corporations.

And if this happened say even 50% of the time.. I would say it's merely coincidence.. But like i said previously this happens well above 60% of the time which leads you to believe there is something fundamentally Broken about the Match Making System.

The issue with match making has been debated for almost a half year; feel free to even search on the Dust forums on my posts alone that go back 4 months on this being a problem that leads directly to player retention. I'm pretty sure if all CCP will work on are hotfixes then this will never get addressed; you have to create either a tiered or cap system where players who fall under a specific SP number can only enter said matches or a given range or some other method. No matter the solution it'd require a client side update most likely and that doesn't seem to be in CCP's interests.

It's not like hotfixes aren't needed as well but its really a way of CCP implying that anything that is a client-side update they've already thrown in the white flag. Stomps pretty much happen on the weekends more than any other time and for the sole reason that its easier for players to stomp all the new ones and cap out their skill points.

Sadly though, the matchmaking argument is, was, n will always be circular....can't keep players because they quit due to going up against vets, and don't have the player count to have good matchmaking....lovely isn't it?

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But then again this is CCP's management team and they are... Special and seem to get away with murder and not be held accountable.

Most of the quality slayers in DUST are the same in others FPS games.

Usually they are wayyy better at the main FPS titles to the point where the challenge was gone and they got bored.

This echoes with nearly every quality player that people consider. More so then what your saying.

I've played 46 Domination games in the last two days (I kept track), and all of the matches--I do mean "ALL"--were one-sided proto stomps. What gives? Do players actually enjoy running Caldari Scouts and Heavies that much?

Is it fun to camp the only opposing spawn uplink with 6+ Heavies and various shotgun Scouts? Are they competing to see who can get the best record or something? What about redlining? Is bombarding the enemy redline with orbitals that satisfying?

What are these players trying to achieve? Why are they trying so hard to win? It's understanable if the opposing team had an equally skilled set of players or squads, but no. These stompers want to give their all against groups of NPC corp randoms and solo players.

I don't get it.

You also act like people play FPS games to get into the army, if this was the case; North Koria would rule the world by now.

The overwhelming majority of NK does not even have computers.

I switched to the European servers today knowing that I would no longer have to face Duna2002. After a few games of ambush, I switched back to the american servers. I'd rather face nyan chan alone than 3-4 members of the rainbow effect - this is proto stomping at its finest ladies and gentlemen, move along, nothing left to see here.

Obviously I could use the countless proton weapons and dropsuits I have in stock, but this is beside the point.

Ive found that all the stompers moved to domination after tanks got removed from ambush and people started quitting, so I started playing skirm and recently ambush and its much better.

Most of the quality slayers in DUST are the same in others FPS games.

Usually they are wayyy better at the main FPS titles to the point where the challenge was gone and they got bored.

This echoes with nearly every quality player that people consider. More so then what your saying.