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Baal Omniscient wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Kallas Hallytyr wrote:

Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right?

@Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier?

You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think.

@Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs.

@All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7

What are you referring to exactly...? I'm totally confused...

My apologies, I should have clarified. This is what I was referring to:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Pssh, even if it did it would be worthless. Thing fires at a 45 degree angle if the vehicle is on an incline Lol

This is a bug, the small rail is not supposed to fire at a 45 degree angle when on some inclines. That does not however take away from the fact that when not on an incline it can output 8016 with a single 24 round clip, at a rate of 2 rounds a second (12 seconds total).

A Thales, by comparison, deals 1676.5 damage per clip at a rate of one round every 1.2 seconds. So in 6 seconds a Thale can dish out 1676.5 damage, while in the same span of time the MLT small rail with no SP investment can dish out 4008 damage. Over DOUBLE the damage in the same time frame.

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Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1742	Posted - 2014.06.19 23:59:00 - [1] - Quote You have given the small rail turret too much range. On Fracture road a player parked a Gorgon and was able park on the pipes by the tower in the center to camp A on a skirmish with his militia rail turret and 2 shot everyone he shot at. WAY too much range. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Subject 36 The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 132	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote Nah, it's just skill bruh. *GÇ£When bad things happen, I know you want to believe they are a joke, but sometimes life is scary and dark." -BMO*
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1742	Posted - 2014.06.20 00:06:00 - [3] - Quote Subject 36 wrote: Nah, it's just skill bruh. 334 damage, 0.5 fire interval, max ammo 96, clip size 24, over 300m range. Basically it's a stronger, faster sniper rifle with way more damage, ammo and clip size and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity. Skill my ass. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 1352	Posted - 2014.06.20 02:49:00 - [4] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Subject 36 wrote: Nah, it's just skill bruh. 334 damage, 0.5 fire interval, max ammo 96, clip size 24, over 300m range. Basically it's a stronger, faster sniper rifle with way more damage, ammo and clip size and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity. Skill my ass. Seeing as the glitch making it phase through people beyond 200m, no, its fine.q Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1743	Posted - 2014.06.20 03:40:00 - [5] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Subject 36 wrote: Nah, it's just skill bruh. 334 damage, 0.5 fire interval, max ammo 96, clip size 24, over 300m range. Basically it's a stronger, faster sniper rifle with way more damage, ammo and clip size and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity. Skill my ass. Seeing as the glitch making it phase through people beyond 200m, no, its fine.q If it made the round phase through people beyond 200, people wouldn't be successfully camping with it at 300+m PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1650	Posted - 2014.06.20 04:01:00 - [6] - Quote You never considered, oh I don't knowGÇª sniping him? forging him? flying up there yourself and killing him? The small rail isn't broken, if anything it's finally useable after all this time. Adapt or die.
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1743	Posted - 2014.06.20 04:06:00 - [7] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: You never considered, oh I don't knowGÇª sniping him? forging him? flying up there yourself and killing him? The small rail isn't broken, if anything it's finally useable after all this time. Adapt or die. Can't forge when you're busy being overrun by cloaked scouts, can't run a dropship up there with 2-3 rail tanks on the field, can't snipe that point from the redline. But thank you for your concern. The damage is fine, and the hit detection is great now. I'm happy the small rail finally works, but when it's better than a Thales with way more ammo and clip size, that needs to be fixed. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9634	Posted - 2014.06.20 04:11:00 - [8] - Quote I've got a 20GJ Particle Accelerator on my Methana. It's starting to make me regret ever skilling into the Sniper Rifle. -Insert Clever Statement Here- "The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits" -HAND
matthew swager RisingSuns Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.06.20 04:57:00 - [9] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: You never considered, oh I don't knowGÇª sniping him? forging him? flying up there yourself and killing him? The small rail isn't broken, if anything it's finally useable after all this time. Adapt or die. Can't forge when you're busy being overrun by cloaked scouts, can't run a dropship up there with 2-3 rail tanks on the field, can't snipe that point from the redline. But thank you for your concern. The damage is fine, and the hit detection is great now. I'm happy the small rail finally works, but when it's better than a Thales with way more ammo and clip size, that needs to be fixed. dude you have answered your own question several over small RAILTURRET . more power not mobile fixed to vehicle need i say more. not trying to troll but think about what your talking bout a sniper riffle is a light weapon not a turret I KILL YOU!!!!!!!!
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1744	Posted - 2014.06.20 05:11:00 - [10] - Quote matthew swager wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: You never considered, oh I don't knowGÇª sniping him? forging him? flying up there yourself and killing him? The small rail isn't broken, if anything it's finally useable after all this time. Adapt or die. Can't forge when you're busy being overrun by cloaked scouts, can't run a dropship up there with 2-3 rail tanks on the field, can't snipe that point from the redline. But thank you for your concern. The damage is fine, and the hit detection is great now. I'm happy the small rail finally works, but when it's better than a Thales with way more ammo and clip size, that needs to be fixed. dude you have answered your own question several over small RAILTURRET . more power not mobile fixed to vehicle need i say more. not trying to troll but think about what your talking bout a sniper riffle is a light weapon not a turret What part of Quote: 2-3 rail tanks on the field makes you think pulling a LAV is possible? Also, for the same reason to having to pull a tank to beat a tank is ridiculous, having to pull a small rail to drop a small sniper is ridiculous. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1

Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 484	Posted - 2014.06.20 09:54:00 - [11] - Quote Your problem is not the small railgun, it's that you had no recourse to counter it. That is not always the case, and can often be fixed by running in a squad. In all honesty, your complaints about being overrun by scouts/railgun tanks/redlined just smacks of inability to compete. Was the railgun really that key to the opponent's dominance? Or is it more likely that their team were simply more effective than yours and that rubs you the wrong way? Finally, Hotfix Alpha (or 1.8, I forget which) dropped small railgun range from 300m to 250m. Rail weaponry is long range: that's kind of its defining feature. Ever been killed by a charge sniper from 400m away? Rail weapon. That Gorgon/PA is risking a lot more than that Thale's/Charge sniper who's sat back in the redline on two hundred rep hives.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 1357	Posted - 2014.06.20 10:27:00 - [12] - Quote Large turrets are supposed to be AV. Each kills other vehicles in different ways. Rails kill from far away, blasters are for up close, etc. The effectiveness of each is another can of worms entirely. The small turrets are for killing infantry. Each do it in their own way. Rails kill from afar, blasters up close, missiles are midway. You're mad that a turret made to kill dropsuits from far away, killed your dropsuit from far away. Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1744	Posted - 2014.06.20 10:43:00 - [13] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Large turrets are supposed to be AV. Each kills other vehicles in different ways. Rails kill from far away, blasters are for up close, etc. The effectiveness of each is another can of worms entirely. The small turrets are for killing infantry. Each do it in their own way. Rails kill from afar, blasters up close, missiles are midway. You're mad that a turret made to kill dropsuits from far away, killed your dropsuit from far away. No, I'm mad about specifically the fact that an officer sniper rifle is completely outclassed by a militia turret that can be accessed on the cheap by anyone. Get it straight. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 166	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:01:00 - [14] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: You have given the small rail turret too much range. On Fracture road a player parked a Gorgon and was able park on the pipes by the tower in the center to camp A on a skirmish with his militia rail turret and 2 shot everyone he shot at. WAY too much range. I'm moving this up here since everyone seems to be skipping the thread itself The Facts: Mlt Rail Turret: 334 damage 0.5s (0.2s spool up) fire interval max ammo 96 clip size 24 250ish meter range. Thales TAR-07 Sniper Rifle: 335.30 50 RPM (1.2s fire interval) Clip Size: 5 Max Ammo: 25 Reload Time: 4s Basically it does the same damage and has a higher RoF than the Officer sniper rifle (which is salvage only), can be used on any vehicle, has more ammo and it's clip size is ONE round short of the Thales entire carry capacity, and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity. Or, to be clearer, it's a Rail Rifle attached to a vehicle with better range than a RR and about the damage per shot (WAY better DPS) as a Thales. CCP, FIX NAO RIP MAG, you will be missed. MAG Vet ~ Raven

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2995	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:38:00 - [15] - Quote We will take a look at the range "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1745	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:39:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We will take a look at the range Thank you sir. It's not the range per-say, rather the combination of the range, damage and RoF. .....kinda like another rail weapon I've heard about..... PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2995	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:43:00 - [17] - Quote We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets. I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1745	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:45:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets. I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope. Alright then, settled. Prepare for a LOT of small rail sniping.... PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1558	Posted - 2014.06.20 11:53:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets. I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope. They have efficiency reduced at range though. I know my gunners can snipe but it takes a lot longer from range so I also dont have much of a problem. Plus the difficulty of use is a moderate deterrent for people to actually use rails vs infantry on a regular basis Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 485	Posted - 2014.06.20 12:06:00 - [20] - Quote Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right? @Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier?

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6109	Posted - 2014.06.20 12:19:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets. I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope. Pssh, even if it did it would be worthless. Thing fires at a 45 degree angle if the vehicle is on an incline Oh, and then there's the fact that turrets swivel in all kinda crazy directions when unattended. Think we need to stop giving them candy, they're less obedient. EDIT: Come to think of it... Anyway you can turn up the turn speed on turrets on LAVs specifically? Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1745	Posted - 2014.06.20 12:41:00 - [22] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right? @Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier? You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think. @Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs. @All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7 PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6109	Posted - 2014.06.20 12:49:00 - [23] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right? @Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier? You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think. @Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs. @All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7 What are you referring to exactly...? I'm totally confused... Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Baal Omniscient Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 1745	Posted - 2014.06.20 12:59:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right? @Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier? You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think. @Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs. @All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7 What are you referring to exactly...? I'm totally confused... My apologies, I should have clarified. This is what I was referring to: Aeon Amadi wrote: Pssh, even if it did it would be worthless. Thing fires at a 45 degree angle if the vehicle is on an incline This is a bug, the small rail is not supposed to fire at a 45 degree angle when on some inclines. That does not however take away from the fact that when not on an incline it can output 8016 with a single 24 round clip, at a rate of 2 rounds a second (12 seconds total). A Thales, by comparison, deals 1676.5 damage per clip at a rate of one round every 1.2 seconds. So in 6 seconds a Thale can dish out 1676.5 damage, while in the same span of time the MLT small rail with no SP investment can dish out 4008 damage. Over DOUBLE the damage in the same time frame. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 485	Posted - 2014.06.20 13:51:00 - [25] - Quote Within 6 seconds, the small railgun will have overheated. It takes 8 shots from a railgun to overheat without applying any Gallente ADS skills (ie, any LAV, HAV or non Incubus DS) which sort of invalidates your point. And you can take your superior tone and shove it, especially if you want to compare the zoom fidelity to the Thales which has an even better one than normal.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3286	Posted - 2014.06.20 14:06:00 - [26] - Quote Wait a sec you are complaining about a militia dropship which is parked and not moving from a location? Excuse me but did you ever thought about it that you could grab a sniper rifle and shot him out of the dropship? or blow the dropship up with a militia forgegun or swarms? Seriously its not hard to blow those things up. And the range is fine on them cause they reward players who can aim with them. Not just small missile spam all over the place.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1113	Posted - 2014.06.20 15:26:00 - [27] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: You have given the small rail turret too much range. On Fracture road a player parked a Gorgon and was able park on the pipes by the tower in the center to camp A on a skirmish with his militia rail turret and 2 shot everyone he shot at. WAY too much range. I'm moving this up here since everyone seems to be skipping the thread itself The Facts: Mlt Rail Turret: 334 damage 0.5s (0.2s spool up) fire interval max ammo 96 clip size 24 250ish meter range. Thales TAR-07 Sniper Rifle: 335.30 50 RPM (1.2s fire interval) Clip Size: 5 Max Ammo: 25 Reload Time: 4s Basically it does the same damage and has a higher RoF than the Officer sniper rifle (which is salvage only), can be used on any vehicle, has more ammo and it's clip size is ONE round short of the Thales entire carry capacity, and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity. Or, to be clearer, it's a Rail Rifle attached to a vehicle with better range than a RR and about the damage per shot (WAY better DPS) as a Thales. No. Alldin Kan has joined the battle!
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 367	Posted - 2014.06.20 16:14:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets. I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope. i remember specifically warning that any buff to small rails would make them OP against infantry... i honestly dont care if people complain about it now because i knew this would happen. ive been using them all day. just had an ADS pilot tell me he never wants to see me in one again, after chasing me and buddy all match long without killing us. it was actually fun though lol
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6110	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:11:00 - [29] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right? @Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier? You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think. @Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs. @All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7 What are you referring to exactly...? I'm totally confused... My apologies, I should have clarified. This is what I was referring to: Aeon Amadi wrote: Pssh, even if it did it would be worthless. Thing fires at a 45 degree angle if the vehicle is on an incline This is a bug, the small rail is not supposed to fire at a 45 degree angle when on some inclines. That does not however take away from the fact that when not on an incline it can output 8016 with a single 24 round clip, at a rate of 2 rounds a second (12 seconds total). A Thales, by comparison, deals 1676.5 damage per clip at a rate of one round every 1.2 seconds. So in 6 seconds a Thale can dish out 1676.5 damage, while in the same span of time the MLT small rail with no SP investment can dish out 4008 damage. Over DOUBLE the damage in the same time frame. I understand that it's a bug but that shouldn't be a factor taken into account in balancing the weapon. That being said, it's a vehicle mounted turret, if it did have more damage than a Sniper Rifle I'd be a little concerned Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Alpha 443-6732 BurgezzE.T.F 512	Posted - 2014.06.20 22:57:00 - [30] - Quote The last thing we need is another useless small turret. If anything, the small rail needs a buff to hit detection.

Alpha 443-6732 BurgezzE.T.F 512	Posted - 2014.06.20 22:59:00 - [31] - Quote also, the railgun and the sniper rifle are will never be in direct competition; there's nothing stopping someone from large railgunning your ass off your perch. Sniper rifles are just generally easier to use, have more range, hitscan, etc.
Alpha 443-6732 BurgezzE.T.F 512	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:03:00 - [32] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: @All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7 That's a huge oversight btw. The small railgun has about 200 range and is often used around 100m for best results. The sniper rifle has 600m range with pinpoint accuracy, hitscan, no falloff and a pint sized frame. They are completely different weapons you pretentious ****.
Alpha 443-6732 BurgezzE.T.F 512	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:04:00 - [33] - Quote and yes I just replied 3 times have another bump you giant faggo
Lynn Beck NoGameNoLife 1870	Posted - 2014.06.22 02:09:00 - [34] - Quote ...and i outDPS'ed a Adv Amarr Sentinel yesterday with a Mlt 20GJ Blaster, on a Baloch, wearing a Mlt CalHeavy. It's a vehicle turret, it had better be more effective than a handheld, lest we go back to LAV's only being used for a Boundless HMG Teleportation Device(patent pending) Please, just accept it as a threat and move to counter it(Packed Av nades, Mlt Forge, Mlt Railtank, Thale's(which has 500x better zoom and can hit from 3x the range) or even a Gorgon fitted with a AB to ram his ass off the tower.) This is the same as what's happening to Scouts,Heavies,AV, Ewar, and Plasma Cannons, they're USEFUL now. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6130	Posted - 2014.06.22 03:48:00 - [35] - Quote I smell QQ from a sniper. This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 150	Posted - 2014.06.22 05:08:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We will take a look at the range With all due respect you can't be ******* serious railguns need range to fend off dropships if someone was able to park a dropship and sit on the turret to snipe people well then too bad. Its not their fault no one on your team is smart enough to idk take a militia dropship up his/her location no one is smart enough to snipe this guy. Please don't give in to this bullshit from the OP.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3295	Posted - 2014.06.22 15:21:00 - [37] - Quote Small rails should not be nerfed cause a incubus equipped with small rails is by far the best choice to intercept other dropships and rewards talented pilots who chase after fleeing dropships in first person fiew.
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 335	Posted - 2014.06.22 19:44:00 - [38] - Quote Lets look at it this way: A sniper has killed the same guy 3 times vs a parked dropship/LAV with rail turret killing someone 3 times. Sniper: Well he killed me here, here, and here from that direction so I think he is somewhere in those hills. I had better go start searching over there and hopefully I will find him. Dropship/LAV: Look, that guy who just killed me with a small turret three times sticks out plain as day on top of that hill over there. I am going to spawn 400m away, take my time to aim, and head shot him out of his stupid vehicle. The OPs problem would be like a blaster tank killing many infantry, but the infantry are having a hard time retaliating because the enemy time is killing them before they can kill the tank. Said scenario is not the tanks fault, you were just losing.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 953	Posted - 2014.06.22 19:47:00 - [39] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: If it made the round phase through people beyond 200, people wouldn't be successfully camping with it at 300+m Is that really an excuse to ruin it for everyone who uses it for it's intended use? The only thing you could touch is it's range and never lower than 100M. The small railguns need their damage and RoF to be effective at AV. The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;


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