Nah, it's just skill bruh.

334 damage, 0.5 fire interval, max ammo 96, clip size 24, over 300m range.

Basically it's a stronger, faster sniper rifle with way more damage, ammo and clip size and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity.

Skill my ass.

Seeing as the glitch making it phase through people beyond 200m, no, its fine.q

You never considered, oh I don't knowGǪ sniping him? forging him? flying up there yourself and killing him?

The small rail isn't broken, if anything it's finally useable after all this time. Adapt or die.

Can't forge when you're busy being overrun by cloaked scouts, can't run a dropship up there with 2-3 rail tanks on the field, can't snipe that point from the redline. But thank you for your concern.

The damage is fine, and the hit detection is great now. I'm happy the small rail finally works, but when it's better than a Thales with way more ammo and clip size, that needs to be fixed.

dude you have answered your own question several over small RAILTURRET . more power not mobile fixed to vehicle need i say more. not trying to troll but think about what your talking bout a sniper riffle is a light weapon not a turret

2-3 rail tanks on the field

Large turrets are supposed to be AV. Each kills other vehicles in different ways. Rails kill from far away, blasters are for up close, etc. The effectiveness of each is another can of worms entirely.

The small turrets are for killing infantry. Each do it in their own way. Rails kill from afar, blasters up close, missiles are midway.

You're mad that a turret made to kill dropsuits from far away, killed your dropsuit from far away.

You have given the small rail turret too much range. On Fracture road a player parked a Gorgon and was able park on the pipes by the tower in the center to camp A on a skirmish with his militia rail turret and 2 shot everyone he shot at. WAY too much range.

I'm moving this up here since everyone seems to be skipping the thread itself

The Facts:

Mlt Rail Turret:
334 damage
0.5s (0.2s spool up) fire interval
max ammo 96
clip size 24
250ish meter range.

Thales TAR-07 Sniper Rifle:
335.30
50 RPM (1.2s fire interval)
Clip Size: 5
Max Ammo: 25
Reload Time: 4s

Basically it does the same damage and has a higher RoF than the Officer sniper rifle (which is salvage only), can be used on any vehicle, has more ammo and it's clip size is ONE round short of the Thales entire carry capacity, and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity.

Or, to be clearer, it's a Rail Rifle attached to a vehicle with better range than a RR and about the damage per shot (WAY better DPS) as a Thales.

We will take a look at the range

We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets.

I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope.

We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets.

I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope.

We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets.

I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope.

Baal, you do realise that Sniper Rifles have much greater zoom fidelity than any Small Rail, right?

@Rattati: personally, I wouldn't see a small range reduction being entirely remiss, but might I suggest that you look to the Sniper ?Rifles for the problem? Aside from the Charge and Thales we rarely see other SRs being utilised: increasing zoom range might be the simplest fix for them, perhaps an additional headshot multiplier?

You might want to hop in one and hit the ADS button. The difference may not be as great as you think.

@Aeon, that is a bug not a feature, the strength of a turret should not be balanced based on bugs.

@All, Ratatti has spoken. I shall now go spread the word that cheap Thales with slight range reductions are available in the marketplace and are equippable to all vehicles with no SP investment. Have fun. o7

What are you referring to exactly...? I'm totally confused...

Pssh, even if it did it would be worthless. Thing fires at a 45 degree angle if the vehicle is on an incline

You have given the small rail turret too much range. On Fracture road a player parked a Gorgon and was able park on the pipes by the tower in the center to camp A on a skirmish with his militia rail turret and 2 shot everyone he shot at. WAY too much range.

I'm moving this up here since everyone seems to be skipping the thread itself

The Facts:

Mlt Rail Turret:
334 damage
0.5s (0.2s spool up) fire interval
max ammo 96
clip size 24
250ish meter range.

Thales TAR-07 Sniper Rifle:
335.30
50 RPM (1.2s fire interval)
Clip Size: 5
Max Ammo: 25
Reload Time: 4s

Basically it does the same damage and has a higher RoF than the Officer sniper rifle (which is salvage only), can be used on any vehicle, has more ammo and it's clip size is ONE round short of the Thales entire carry capacity, and requires no SP investment and the only down side is less zoom fidelity.

Or, to be clearer, it's a Rail Rifle attached to a vehicle with better range than a RR and about the damage per shot (WAY better DPS) as a Thales.

We intentionally increased damage so it would be more viable as secondary weapon in a dedicated AV tank, if you want to instagib tanks, bring friends in small turrets.

I have no particular problem with people sniping infantry with small Rails though, not like it has a sniper scope.

My apologies, I should have clarified. This is what I was referring to:


This is a bug, the small rail is not supposed to fire at a 45 degree angle when on some inclines. That does not however take away from the fact that when not on an incline it can output 8016 with a single 24 round clip, at a rate of 2 rounds a second (12 seconds total).

A Thales, by comparison, deals 1676.5 damage per clip at a rate of one round every 1.2 seconds. So in 6 seconds a Thale can dish out 1676.5 damage, while in the same span of time the MLT small rail with no SP investment can dish out 4008 damage. Over DOUBLE the damage in the same time frame.