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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8456	Posted - 2014.06.18 23:41:00 - [1] - Quote How much money does CCP need to give Sony to do one more patched update? Because it is absolutely ridiculous that there are no plans to add Amarr/Minmatar vehicles as well as Amarr/Gallente heavy weapons. "With 1.8 we achieved racially parity" lol. Amarr are the good guys.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1460	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:23:00 - [2] - Quote I know the feels >.< Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
MINA Longstrike 892	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:28:00 - [3] - Quote It has to be server side because they've pulled anyone who might actually do something client side to work on legion. It is literally a case of 'we cannot do client side because there is no one to generate said content'. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10785	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:42:00 - [4] - Quote Indeed, however Legion hasn't even been greenlit yet, why not take the time to complete Dust as a game, knowing Rattati will handle hotfixes well, before shifting total focus to Legion? Meanwhile Dusters have accepted they are beta testers and are actively looking to improve balance for Legion. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2838	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:44:00 - [5] - Quote It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1390	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:45:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Indeed, however Legion hasn't even been greenlit yet, why not take the time to complete Dust as a game, knowing Rattati will handle hotfixes well, before shifting total focus to Legion? Meanwhile Dusters have accepted they are beta testers and are actively looking to improve balance for Legion. I'm pretty sure all content creators are working full time on Legion regardless of greenlight status. They're certainly not sitting around with nothing to do all the while getting paid. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Taylor Badasz Proficiency V. 98	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:46:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So your basically saying we might get a client update soon. Lazer focused...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15518	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:49:00 - [8] - Quote Taylor Badasz wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So your basically saying we might get a client update soon. I wouldn't put soon on it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6077	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:50:00 - [9] - Quote Taylor Badasz wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So your basically saying we might get a client update soon. No he's not A moment of silence is not enough. For their crimes, we must make the Caldari silence permanent.
Taylor Badasz Proficiency V. 98	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:50:00 - [10] - Quote SoonGäó then... Lazer focused...

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8459	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:54:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So you're telling me there's a chance? Amarr are the good guys.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3619	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:55:00 - [12] - Quote SOONGäó-«-¬ The struggle is real Confirmed by my toilet
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15518	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:57:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So you're telling me there's a chance? Essentially Yes. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Tectonic Fusion 1718	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:57:00 - [14] - Quote EVEning all, welcome to kicking dust forums.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8459	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:57:00 - [15] - Quote How much support do we need to make this a higher hanging fruit? I bet a lot of people wouldn't mind redownloading the client if we got the remaining vehicles and heavy weapons. Amarr are the good guys.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10785	Posted - 2014.06.19 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. I know one single voice means so little in the sea of players that make up this community, but I would LOVE to see the Amarr and Minmatar content in Dust. I mean for the longest time the Gallente and Caldari have had their content rolled out without issue or hesitance, while the rest have been left waiting for almost a year now hoping we might be able to finish that racial line up. If that could be achieved I think the amazing work you and your team is doing would have much greater value as you push to balance everything in context to everything else, in the end saving you guys more time hotfixing. Even place holders would be welcomed warmly. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8459	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:15:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati, can you explain in a little further detail what the "many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download" are? Because if you were to poll the player base and ask them what their priority wishlist is, I have a hunch this would come before any further module/weapon/suit tweaking. Make a poll, tell everyone about it on the Dust 514 start up screen, and see the results. Amarr are the good guys.
Lynn Beck NoGameNoLife 1860	Posted - 2014.06.19 01:45:00 - [18] - Quote Hell, even a repainted(use the Ai-102 skins) Madrugar with 800 shield and 6000 armor with 1/4 layout would be better. Minmatar obviously getting some rust brown, with 2300/1800 Hp's, and stealing Gunny's 3/2 and replacin it with 4/1. Gallente Hmg can just be a 1200 Rpm Hmg that shoots Ar Bullets, and has appropriate stats, Amarr being a Forge gun with yellow paint and shootin Scr bullets. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8461	Posted - 2014.06.19 02:01:00 - [19] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Hell, even a repainted(use the Ai-102 skins) Madrugar with 800 shield and 6000 armor with 1/4 layout would be better. Minmatar obviously getting some rust brown, with 2300/1800 Hp's, and stealing Gunny's 3/2 and replacin it with 4/1. Gallente Hmg can just be a 1200 Rpm Hmg that shoots Ar Bullets, and has appropriate stats, Amarr being a Forge gun with yellow paint and shootin Scr bullets. I would be ok with this. Amarr are the good guys.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 66	Posted - 2014.06.19 02:32:00 - [20] - Quote Same here. Amarr Victor

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10805	Posted - 2014.06.19 02:47:00 - [21] - Quote It honestly would hurt immensely to see the lack of actual content put into this kind of release but I would have to be okay with it provisioning that I have the capacity to remove my SP in Gallente Tech which has long physically hurt me to use. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
lithkul devant Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 251	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:03:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So you're telling me there's a chance? Essentially Yes. Just...don't get our hopes up on this okay, Logibro already killed that and stomped all over it quite well. Yes I would love to see the full set of minmatar and amarr, would love to see the full potential of Dust what it could be, but don't talk about how their could be another patch even remote possibility unless you know of one comming through. It just opens up old wounds when talking about it even in theory. Also for now, we do need fixing on all the different aspects of the game before it is pushed forward. A lot of the issue was that alot of things were just to wildly slung around and not much effort trying to balance them, we're finally getting that balance now and proper gameplay. What I want to know, is the future of the dust/legion has the project been greenlit, any news about Legion possibly having a side shoot off to the PS4? These questions to me are much more important than if Dust will ever get a next patch.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 929	Posted - 2014.06.19 04:21:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. Honestly, I don't really care how much I have to download. In my opinion it's completely worth it if DUST is improved. The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 1345	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:14:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. So to clarify. Client side isn't off the table, but its a last resort if its needed? Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 47	Posted - 2014.06.19 05:28:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. Not a good answer, I think that every single person here would gladly let their PS3 download a "recook" and have a better game than you picking low hanging fruit for the next 6 months.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 675	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:05:00 - [26] - Quote SANDBOX DISTRICTS COMPLETE WITH SECURITY STATUS & PVE FOR DUST 2.0!!!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10824	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:07:00 - [27] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: SANDBOX DISTRICTS COMPLETE WITH SECURITY STATUS & PVE FOR DUST 2.0!!!! You know that cannot and will not happen. Lets take the potential of the Devs finishing Dusts racial line ups seriously. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 675	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:20:00 - [28] - Quote cant cant do nothin and never will, building a sandbox needs to be something that needs to happen just as much as ur amar hav and large laser turrets, a sandbox can be built and it should be for the sake of the new players, the current round basd battle system does not do the galaxy of new eden justice and is a horrible way to get new players interestid in new eden itself.
The-Errorist SVER True Blood 771	Posted - 2014.06.19 06:55:00 - [29] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Hell, even a repainted(use the Ai-102 skins) Madrugar with 800 shield and 6000 armor with 1/4 layout would be better. Minmatar obviously getting some rust brown, with 2300/1800 Hp's, and stealing Gunny's 3/2 and replacin it with 4/1. Gallente Hmg can just be a 1200 Rpm Hmg that shoots Ar Bullets, and has appropriate stats, Amarr being a Forge gun with yellow paint and shootin Scr bullets. You have the racial slot layouts wrong just like the assault's slot layouts; Caldari is supposed to have 4/1, Minmatar 3/2, Gallente 2/3, Amarr 1/4. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2304	Posted - 2014.06.19 07:02:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. This should mean that if Legion team creates new weapons or a new map, we can have them in dust? (of course the map must be reworked for dust) PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.



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