DUST Search - Getting sick of playing heavy 514

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Rusty Shallows wrote:

Anyone who actually wants a real discussion about war materiel or tactics can go find another game. This is FPS politics at its worst for game design, throw in real-life threats on Devs and we will officially hit rock bottom. Although technically these days are less severe than that 2013 campaign to break vehicle/weapon balance.

Are we not here to discuss and optimize role/weapon balance?
Yeah your role
Are we not in a better position to do so than the Devs themselves?
After saying you've never used the fit in question you have lost ALL credibility
Are we not more numerous than the Devs?
And the numbers DISAGREE with you
Are we not further progressed in our respective roles?
Again you cannot discuss something you have never used get in a militia fit...
Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in competitive play?
Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in non-competitive play?

Weapons and roles aren't balanced. Thankfully, we have a Dev (Rattati) who is interested in seeing them balanced. I'd like to think our feedback helps Rattati prioritize issues.

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Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2564	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:05:00 - [61] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol noobs... You know where heavies are gonna be... you know their range of dmg... you know how you're "suppose" to approach one... yet you apparently get molested by heavies allot, YET you call heavies the scrubs? Good one Buff my ar to kill heavies in 2 seconds. Since they both have the same range Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1396	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:08:00 - [62] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol noobs... You know where heavies are gonna be... you know their range of dmg... you know how you're "suppose" to approach one... yet you apparently get molested by heavies allot, YET you call heavies the scrubs? Good one Buff my ar to kill heavies in 2 seconds. Since they both have the same range If a light weapon performs as good as a heavy weapon what is the point of using a heavy weapon? Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Lynn Beck NoGameNoLife 1830	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:12:00 - [63] - Quote Then tell CCP to buff range? Why run a Gallente Assault when a Minmatar Sentinel is far superior? General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1396	Posted - 2014.06.16 06:14:00 - [64] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Then tell CCP to buff range? Why run a Gallente Assault when a Minmatar Sentinel is far superior? not sure who this is replying to but sure id love a LR range buff Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9498	Posted - 2014.06.16 07:02:00 - [65] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Again, no one is forcing you to play. You can quit anytime you like, unless if there is literally someone holding you at gun point and forcing you to play. BTW what makes you think that Legion won't have balancing problems when it comes out? You know, you may be in my corp, but I REALLY don't like you let alone have ever seen you in game.... That's a bit too hostile don't you think? Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9498	Posted - 2014.06.16 07:08:00 - [66] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol noobs... You know where heavies are gonna be... you know their range of dmg... you know how you're "suppose" to approach one... yet you apparently get molested by heavies allot, YET you call heavies the scrubs? Good one Buff my ar to kill heavies in 2 seconds. Since they both have the same range If your a good shot, have your Proficiency Skill to V, and use A Gallente Commando, the Duvolle Plasma Rifle does come pretty close (538 DPS makes it quite deadly against them). Not to mention that Commandos have a rather large HP Pool, making it possible to 1v1 Heavies if your good at strafing. As for making the base stats conform to your suggestion, no on the grounds that they would be absurdly overpowered when placed on a Light or Medium Frame, and Gallente Commandos could quite possible become God itself. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9498	Posted - 2014.06.16 07:09:00 - [67] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then tell CCP to buff range? Why run a Gallente Assault when a Minmatar Sentinel is far superior? not sure who this is replying to but sure id love a LR range buff My Caldari and Matari suits wouldn't. >.> Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1396	Posted - 2014.06.16 07:12:00 - [68] - Quote Atiim wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then tell CCP to buff range? Why run a Gallente Assault when a Minmatar Sentinel is far superior? not sure who this is replying to but sure id love a LR range buff My Caldari and Matari suits wouldn't. >.> :3 then go with the (literal cause we have slaves) Master Race Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3684	Posted - 2014.06.16 08:06:00 - [69] - Quote How about using a weapon against them that doesn't have a -20% damage reduction to armor? Or a weapon that chews heavies up (like a shotgun) Instead of complaining about it, adapt, change your strategy, counter them. Whenever I go up against 12 heavies, I run my own heavy and show them how you're suppposed to play the role. Or I switch to a scout and shotgun/remote them to death until they stop camping. Long range maps I use armor eater weapons. Yeah, I wish I could just slaughter everything with my prof 5 scrambler rifle, but not everything can be a caldari scout. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 241	Posted - 2014.06.16 09:22:00 - [70] - Quote Stupied reactive plates... Now heavys ignore my triage hives. Lonewolf till I die

Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 199	Posted - 2014.06.16 09:26:00 - [71] - Quote Oh I'm sorry Aisha Are you mad they're nerfing your "I win button" remotes? My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 242	Posted - 2014.06.16 10:31:00 - [72] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Oh I'm sorry Aisha Are you mad they're nerfing your "I win button" remotes? This from the guy posting " don't listen to the people saying heavys are op " lol He needs the ehp, since it takes him at least 2 seconds to react to someone shooting him. 2.5 sec and a warning sound wasn't enuf time to react to re's. Lonewolf till I die
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10662	Posted - 2014.06.16 11:28:00 - [73] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Oh I'm sorry Aisha Are you mad they're nerfing your "I win button" remotes? Aisha doesn't use Remotes. He never has. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4887	Posted - 2014.06.16 11:32:00 - [74] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Oh I'm sorry Aisha Are you mad they're nerfing your "I win button" remotes? You clearly have me confused with someone else. I am a proto Amarr Assault that runs a fully maxed out proto SCR, where in the world did you get the notion that I use remotes? Scrambling brains since 5/14/13
End Is Here Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 52	Posted - 2014.06.16 14:25:00 - [75] - Quote Waaaaaaaaaaa what a fking cry baby. GTFO, now! Destiny, please hurry up..... Ps, 1700hp 24/7, boundless, flayloc(for touch of class) There is a heavy vs heavy war going on. Who is the master heavy....... Only SCRUBS cry when they can't kill something. I kill LARGE AMOUNTS of heavies with my exile 'free logi suit'. Get above them, problem solved!
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 99	Posted - 2014.06.16 15:58:00 - [76] - Quote I disagree. I've been playing as a Heavy since Jan last year (end of 'closed Beta') and the only thing that has changed drastically is the difference in heavies, I don't think the numbers have changed that much. Whereas you might see (and could only see) 5-8 (Amarr) heavies per team, you now see 6-9 (varied) heavies per team so it's not that much of a difference; there's still just as many medium and light suits about as there were. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2567	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:10:00 - [77] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Then tell CCP to buff range? Why run a Gallente Assault when a Minmatar Sentinel is far superior? Why should I chase fotm? Why can't everything just be balanced.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9510	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:16:00 - [78] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Oh I'm sorry Aisha Are you mad they're nerfing your "I win button" remotes? A weapon that gave a player 4.65x the amount of time to react than an average human was in no way a win button. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9510	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:17:00 - [79] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: :3 then go with the (literal cause we have slaves) Master Race I'd sooner drink Vitoc than touch an Amarr frame. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1919	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:20:00 - [80] - Quote Victor889 wrote: ... the only thing that has changed drastically is the difference in heavies ... Since Beta, which of the following has also changed drastically? 1) Heavy Hitpoint Potential 2) Heavy Rotation Speed 3) Heavy Resistances 4) HMG Range 5) Shotgun Range Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley

Atiim NoGameNoLife 9511	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:21:00 - [81] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Victor889 wrote: ... the only thing that has changed drastically is the difference in heavies ... 1) Has Heavy max-HP changed drastically? 2) Has Heavy Rotation Speed changed drastically? 3) Has HMG Range changed drastically? You also forgot about damage resistance. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1919	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:24:00 - [82] - Quote Atiim wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Victor889 wrote: ... the only thing that has changed drastically is the difference in heavies ... 1) Has Heavy max-HP changed drastically? 2) Has Heavy Rotation Speed changed drastically? 3) Has HMG Range changed drastically? You also forgot about damage resistance. Fixed. Also added Shotgun Range, since they tend to move out-of-range so freely following the first blast. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 1871	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:31:00 - [83] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Again, no one is forcing you to play. You can quit anytime you like, unless if there is literally someone holding you at gun point and forcing you to play. BTW what makes you think that Legion won't have balancing problems when it comes out? You know, you may be in my corp, but I REALLY don't like you let alone have ever seen you in game.... I've seen him. I feel better about my gameplay when I see him. Is it wrong that when I read posts by Heavies I think of Spkr and Taki discussing AV? I get that feeling reading the nerf requests. Forum Metagame at its best. Same old tune of people wanting what they don't use nerfed for a competitive advantage. Anyone who actually wants a real discussion about war materiel or tactics can go find another game. This is FPS politics at its worst for game design, throw in real-life threats on Devs and we will officially hit rock bottom. Although technically these days are less severe than that 2013 campaign to break vehicle/weapon balance. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1920	Posted - 2014.06.16 16:39:00 - [84] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Anyone who actually wants a real discussion about war materiel or tactics can go find another game. This is FPS politics at its worst for game design, throw in real-life threats on Devs and we will officially hit rock bottom. Although technically these days are less severe than that 2013 campaign to break vehicle/weapon balance. Are we not here to discuss and optimize role/weapon balance? Are we not in a better position to do so than the Devs themselves? Are we not more numerous than the Devs? Are we not further progressed in our respective roles? Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in competitive play? Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in non-competitive play? Weapons and roles aren't balanced. Thankfully, we have a Dev (Rattati) who is interested in seeing them balanced. I'd like to think our feedback helps Rattati prioritize issues. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1410	Posted - 2014.06.16 17:13:00 - [85] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Anyone who actually wants a real discussion about war materiel or tactics can go find another game. This is FPS politics at its worst for game design, throw in real-life threats on Devs and we will officially hit rock bottom. Although technically these days are less severe than that 2013 campaign to break vehicle/weapon balance. Are we not here to discuss and optimize role/weapon balance? Yeah your role Are we not in a better position to do so than the Devs themselves? After saying you've never used the fit in question you have lost ALL credibility Are we not more numerous than the Devs? And the numbers DISAGREE with you Are we not further progressed in our respective roles? Again you cannot discuss something you have never used get in a militia fit... Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in competitive play? Are we not more aware of battlefield conditions in non-competitive play? Weapons and roles aren't balanced. Thankfully, we have a Dev (Rattati) who is interested in seeing them balanced. I'd like to think our feedback helps Rattati prioritize issues. Gonna leave this here Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. 2877	Posted - 2014.06.16 17:37:00 - [86] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Clearly people suck ass at this game and need a 1200 eHP suit to get anything done...getting pretty tired of playing games where 12 of the 16 enemy players are heavies. Legion please hurry up already. Pro Tip: Quit playing. "The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 5090	Posted - 2014.06.16 19:10:00 - [87] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol noobs... You know where heavies are gonna be... you know their range of dmg... you know how you're "suppose" to approach one... yet you apparently get molested by heavies allot, YET you call heavies the scrubs? Good one Buff my ar to kill heavies in 2 seconds. Since they both have the same range If a light weapon performs as good as a heavy weapon what is the point of using a heavy weapon? Atiim wrote: If your a good shot, have your Proficiency Skill to V, and use A Gallente Commando, the Duvolle Plasma Rifle does come pretty close (538 DPS makes it quite deadly against them). Not to mention that Commandos have a rather large HP Pool, making it possible to 1v1 Heavies if your good at strafing. As for making the base stats conform to your suggestion, no on the grounds that they would be absurdly overpowered when placed on a Light or Medium Frame, and Gallente Commandos could quite possible become God itself. Hey guys c'mon.... logical thinking doesn't belong here. People obviously want the good ol days of Assault > heavies in CQC. I mean it's obviously the HMGs fault that CCP has lowered the range of the AR right? So let's buff the DPS of an AR to match that of an HMG. I mean that's obviously the best way to go about it ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9524	Posted - 2014.06.16 22:51:00 - [88] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Or when all the "top scouts" tried to defend that the Amarr scout would be hyper OP and didn't need any buffs in the face of over whelming evidence their "scouty know how" was a load of ***. Let's not attempt to re-write history here. The Scout community openly stated that the Amarr Scout would be out-performed and could need adjustments. However, they rediculed the Amarr loyalists because they were suggesting everything under the sun; most of said suggestions would make the Scout overpowered. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical.* Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
Michael Arck 4696	Posted - 2014.06.16 23:56:00 - [89] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: After which and I forgot his name.... basically proved that Amarr scouts were garbage. Magnus Amadeuss? I remember having an entire thread argument disproving the notion that the Amarr suits would be terrible in comparison. Well, after the math was done it turned out that they were the worst off, but the margin was too insignificant to make a difference. Also, he's in your corp. The fact that you don't remember him is quite sad. >.> I thought he was True's alt? Shrugs. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10686	Posted - 2014.06.16 23:58:00 - [90] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: After which and I forgot his name.... basically proved that Amarr scouts were garbage. Magnus Amadeuss? I remember having an entire thread argument disproving the notion that the Amarr suits would be terrible in comparison. Well, after the math was done it turned out that they were the worst off, but the margin was too insignificant to make a difference. Also, he's in your corp. The fact that you don't remember him is quite sad. >.> I thought he was True's alt? Shrugs. I haven't seen him online in a very long time. Not since before Fanfest...... and since I have been integrating myself into EVE more I have dozens more names to remember, ranks, in Corp RP phrases, skill lists, ship fits, enemy ships to be wary of, LP, shipping my loot, selling my loot, making money, hunting in belts, out doing Aero on kills, etc...... Besides that I have work which is down time compared to EVE...... "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon



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