1250 damage on standards is pretty significant enough to get a heavy killed though and with 4 second activation time the oversized grenade deal gets removed and they return more to a trap deal.

In version 2 of the numbers you no longer need to get to prototype to get to old damage numbers just adv now. Prototype actually got a damage buff from current.

The problem is, that if he has a cal scout buddy in his squad that doesn't wander too far away, I light up on his tacnet like a christmas tree. He gets to have field presence AND an incredibly high ehp suit with face melting weaponry.

If I have a heavy in my squad, I don't get any passive increase to my armor. I don't get armor reps if someone else in my squad has them equipped.

Minjas are the red headed stepchild of Dust.

Man, you are dumb. It takes skill to actually use Nova Knives. They practically have no range, so killing fatsuits with them is perfectly fair game.

Considering how you have to walk up to your target, plant the charges, and then run away to dentonate the charges (or risk killing yourself); they take skill to use.

Unless of course the people your playing against are bads who can barely fight their way out of a paper bag.

Its been pretty well established that there is a rock paper scissors (ideally) aspect to Dust.

Heavies are the rock, assaults/mediums the scissors, and scouts the paper.

If not the scouts, who else would be the heavy counter?

We are supposed to be the counter to heavies. That is the point. Besides, a good heavy checks his 6 regularly. You know how hard it is to sneak up behind someone who actually makes an effort to be aware of their surroundings?

Damn hard. Especially when they carry weapon that can melt your face in a fraction of a second.

Yes.

Apparently its ok if std HAV and LAV are cheap and not so significantly worse than the proto versions that everyone can use them, but when it comes to REs...

Lets just say that its obvious CCP cares more about helping those who don't have the field awareness rather than actually taking a step back and seeing what the real problem is.

Another heavy, or multiple mediums/scouts. And that's fair, because medium frames and scouts contribute something other than combat. Heavies only contribute combat, therefore they need to be superior at it. Being locked into a rock paper scissors system does not make them superior at it.

Not everything needs a counter of equal strength to make a game balanced. That's simply an easier answer for people to comprehend when they lack perception of how everything interacts on multiple levels.

Rock Paper Scissors is game design at its absolute laziest, and is never something you should strive for.

Considering how you have to walk up to your target, plant the charges, and then run away to dentonate the charges (or risk killing yourself); they take skill to use.

Unless of course the people your playing against are bads who can barely fight their way out of a paper bag.

Mildly annoyed, to be honest. I've got the SP to skill into these things and have been thinking of doing so for awhile, I'd just prefer not to have to use proto gear to kill cheap militia tanks. I was actually hoping to spec into shield regulators (Assuming I could even find the urge to log into Dust again) but it seems even that's out of this nerf happens.

Yes.

Apparently its ok if std HAV and LAV are cheap and not so significantly worse than the proto versions that everyone can use them, but when it comes to REs...

Lets just say that its obvious CCP cares more about helping those who don't have the field awareness rather than actually taking a step back and seeing what the real problem is.

I dont understand what the big deal is. Base remotes costs 1,500. A militia tank with a few mods costs about 75,000ISK on the low end. So base REs are 50 times cheaper than a militia tank.

i have Lv5 for mines. I have a suit loaded with proxies that I can use as a massive area denial. The fitting restock cost is about 50,000ISK. Thats still 25,000ISK less than the tank cost. I can turn a tank into vapor in 1 second if they stumble into my minefield. But I also sank alot of SP and ISK to be able to do that.

I just dont get the community sometimes. When someone asks for a repsec, you all come out of the woodwork and start shrieking that this game is all about specialization, and to take your FOTM consequences with some HTFU.

Now suddenly they want to change something you like and its oh no thats not fair I have entitlements I have the right to proto efficiency at militia costs and STD access.

If mines are your thing and a essential part of your gameplay, you will spec up. But if you were just FOTMing it anyway, then save up for the next game changing advantage to exploit.

Are being nerfed? Really, CCP? Are you really going to make me skill into prototype gear to kill militia tanks? Pound another nail into the coffin, why don't you. Oh, let me give you a suggestion, save ya some time. Nerf Nova Knives so they can't one shot heavies. It's totally OP. Cut the damage in half or something like that, or increase the charge up time to five seconds... or better yet, just remove them. It's much easier that way.

No, you're not supposed to be the counter to heavies. You're supposed to be a scout. A gatherer of information and the first one to an area. Not an elite assassin capable of dispatching any foe. That is delusion brought on by ego.

And let's not pretend you know anything about good heavies. Thanks.

Or just keep your ears open so you can turn and blast the sneaky turds creeping up behind you. They're quiet but they aren't silent.

Man, you are dumb. It takes skill to actually use Nova Knives. They practically have no range, so killing fatsuits with them is perfectly fair game.

You sound like a tanker. They say the only thing that should take on a tank is another tank or damn near full squad of AV.

If you need multiple people to take down a heavy, then its Heavy 514, and everyone will run it. There will be no room for diversity. This game is meant to exist with a plethora of viable options. Just because you haven't the skill to turn around on occasion to check your surroundings doesn't mean the rest of the community needs to be molded to fit your handicap.