Except the amarrians.
They loves them some lasers


EDIT: I'm also taking to post to let people know that this thread is for suggestions. No matter how hard you argue, I will NOT take them off the list. If you have your own Ideas, post them here. Even if they have already been said. let's please rre-rail this thread.

lol. I want you to think about all of that, and why it's so wrong..........

I think I'm just going to pretend you don't exist from now on. If you don't believe proof well...what can you say.

But you didn't give proof........

Yet I gave ingame proof that they don't.

Unfortunately, Godin, lore is rather more important in this context.

i.e. not only are you approaching this like a class A wanker, you're also wrong.

But you've given no proof that they have. You gave a very low possibility that it could be true.

Yet I've given multiple levels of proof. All ingame.

But you didn't give proof........

Yet I gave ingame proof that they don't.

You are trying to argue that a game...... barely finished and missing masses of content is somehow more logically sound in determining which empires use what weapons with someone who has spend more time playing EVE than most people on the forums and with those who have PRIME FICTION on their side being the lore from which players actively draw information and role play from.

Godin, frankly you are not as smart and infallible with your suggestions as you think you are, you seem to have this narrow field of vision where your suggestions are right and those who have greater understanding of the universe of New Eden and its workings do not.

Frankly given these displays you are in no place whatsoever to critique anyone who makes any suggestion related to advancing the lore and immersive aspects of this game because you have shown here you do not have the requisite knowledge of New Eden, and are not willing to accept the reasoning of those who do.

Using LOGIC Godin considering that clone soldiers are new technology as established by prime fiction through Templar One, though most people despite the authors space opera style, we can assume that any and all tech we currently use for Dust 514 is specifically made and designed for clone use and thus was only developed within the time Dust has been considered Canon. Additionally as Theodicy is considered prime fiction it words undeniable from a lore perspective unless stated otherwise.

As such prior to and most likely concurrently within Prime Fiction it is logical to assume all Empires would make use of all forms of Technologies.

You are trying to argue that a game...... barely finished and missing masses of content is somehow more logically sound in determining which empires use what weapons with someone who has spend more time playing EVE than most people on the forums and with those who have PRIME FICTION on their side being the lore from which players actively draw information and role play from.

Godin, frankly you are not as smart and infallible with your suggestions as you think you are, you seem to have this narrow field of vision where your suggestions are right and those who have greater understanding of the universe of New Eden and its workings do not.

Frankly given these displays you are in no place whatsoever to critique anyone who makes any suggestion related to advancing the lore and immersive aspects of this game because you have shown here you do not have the requisite knowledge of New Eden, and are not willing to accept the reasoning of those who do.

Using LOGIC Godin considering that clone soldiers are new technology as established by prime fiction through Templar One, though most people despite the authors space opera style, we can assume that any and all tech we currently use for Dust 514 is specifically made and designed for clone use and thus was only developed within the time Dust has been considered Canon. Additionally as Theodicy is considered prime fiction it words undeniable from a lore perspective unless stated otherwise.

As such prior to and most likely concurrently within Prime Fiction it is logical to assume all Empires would make use of all forms of Technologies.

Oh god I promised myself I would just leave this alone, but I can't resist.

You realize that game-play in EVE is NOT necessarily lore, right?

Did you know that, in lore, camera drones have to move INSIDE a ship while it jumps through a gate? When a capsuleer activates a gate, he loses his 'sight' outside his ship. In EVE though, we have a nice transition animation, because its nicer than a black screen. This is for game-play purposes only.

Here's another good one.

Riddle me this: how long do you think it takes a capsuleer to go from captains quarters to pod to ship to undocking?

In game it takes just a few seconds. Guess what, in the reality of the game world, it would take (insert best guess here. 20 min? maybe less if you have high priority clearance and prepping for pod insertion is a simple thing).

The fact you can undock in 5 seconds does not mean that is how it is in lore.

The same can be said for any vast number of things.

If you cant / don't want to understand that, then you REALLY have no place discussing things like lore and immersion.

That has nothing to do with the fact that there has nver been any proof that Caldari makes blaster tech. Again, where's my Cal Navy Heavy Neutrons if they do? Where's my ika PLC? Where's my State Ion Pistol?

Allotek produces Nanohives
Ishukone produces Nanohives

This is a shared technology indicating that both groups from the Gallente and Caldari respectively can produce a technology that is exactly the same, has the same underlying principles and components.

Any pilot can loot any factions turret once they destroy an enemy ship and bring it to their respective faction, this is an in game mechanic.

The Caldari and Gallente have been at war for decades, this the likelihood of this having happened is insanely high.

Logically RD develops by taking the oppositions armament and then producing a counter to that armament.

It stands to reason drawing a logical conclusion that if two different Empire factions can produce the came technology they have equivalent levels of technology, thus it stands to reason that a technology that the Gallente invented, Railgun Technology ,is not just able to be developed by the Caldari but improved on a specialised.

It is also equally likely that the Caldari can and do have the technological ability to produce Blaster Technology.
I am still looking for the quote but it directly infers that the Caldari were vastly less technologically developed than the Gallente, the Garoun Kindgom at the time, and adopted magnetic projection technology and blaster technology.

I will however leave you with this to some effect.

"The major Gallente nations established embassies across the Tikiona states, and began to assist the Caldari in emerging out of their industrial era and into the Space Age. Thanks to Gallente assistance, the Caldari were able to populate other areas of the world in earnest, which had remained undeveloped for centuries."

"Over the following decades, the Caldari proved remarkably efficient in catching up with the GallenteGÇÖs level of development, thanks to a more homogeneous history creating a stronger sense of collective identity. In addition, the bureaucratically authoritarian governments of Caldari were not weighed down by democratic or populist concerns that may otherwise have held them back. The two races worked on colonizing and developing their home system together, which eventually was named Luminaire."

Cited: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Nascent_Era_of_the_Gallente_Federation

These implying that during the Nascent era of the Gallentean expansion the Caldari and Gallente shared technology, very likely developing both rail and blaster tech before the schism that was the Caldari-Gallente war.

I know all of that. That still doesn't proves that Caldari has developed their own blaster tech. Also, you yourself said it, as I've already said it. How do they get their blasters? they buy from a 3rd party, or they steal the stuff (which you yourself pointed out).

Regarding the great Godin vs Dagger debate, there have been points made on both sides of this debate which I agree with.

However, from a game development perspective I donGÇÖt think it is a good investment of resources to create two art models for the same turret. At least not initially.

Got a good one: Not being able to drive a vehicle unless you have the skills for it.

Or literally build it themselves.

Dagger Two has already proven Caldari Weapons Manufacturers produce blaster tech in his post about the Gistii 10 and Pithum 2 Automatic.

If I can build blaster tech with a blue print or a complex ship, even a titan, it stands to reason the four major powers with their trillions of ISK can do much...much better.

Then I ask again, why isn't there a Cal Navy blaster, or a Ika PLC?