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Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:05:00 - [1] - Quote Heavily shielded and armoured viper with proto missile launchers shooting at ridiculous speeds for it's damage potential. and dropping the clone score on my team from 70 -70 range to 40 - 70.... Why not just ban vehicles from ambush matches as the tiny quota allows proto vehicle people to cheat, really. Everyone's focused on the super tank that is shooting people with rail gun cannons that act like a sniper in a very large suit of armour with a very large gun. or the team slaying vehicle or the murder taxi team and the only sensible thing they can do is stand there to be shot, as they're gunned downed by other players because they can't defend their self and shoot down vehicles at once. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2670	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:08:00 - [2] - Quote Props to the pilot.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15328	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:11:00 - [3] - Quote damn I have a problem hitting moving targets let alone wondering if I got hit marker or if the game bugged out on me. Dropuplinks I have no problem annihilating though. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:18:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: damn I have a problem hitting moving targets let alone wondering if I got hit marker or if the game bugged out on me. Dropuplinks I have no problem annihilating though. Only things in a dropship I have trouble shooting with is a railgun or if the pilot turned the ship too much, but just that. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:21:00 - [5] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Props to the pilot. Props? Missile launchers aren't hard to use, running away when you get your shield tickled by a little militia swarmer isn't hard either. I don't think proto missile launchers would be hard to use either. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1385	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:27:00 - [6] - Quote your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free.
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:46:00 - [7] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Gooseman Manwhore CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 36	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:48:00 - [8] - Quote 1. It takes a lot to become a good pilot. Isk, experience, sp, etc. 2. If vehicles were banned and all they had was points into vehicles then it wouldn't be very fair to them. 3. We all know this game is unbalanced. In all honesty, you just drew the short straw. I empathize because every time I run ambush I generally run into milkman1 on the opposite team. I constantly get taken down by ADS, and OP tanks. Is it worth complaining over? Not really, because as far as everyone knows it's not going to change anytime soon. I put the sexi in dyslexia
Master Kail R 0 N 1 N 46	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:52:00 - [9] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Just use the Militia Swarm launcher tactically.. it's OP I tell you Everything I touch... Turns Blue Minmatar Scout Hacker and Falcoooon Puncher E-War specialist for R0N1N
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:55:00 - [10] - Quote Master Kail wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Just use the Militia Swarm launcher tactically.. it's OP I tell you Your humour is OP. But yeah seriously Av grenades forge guns and some explosives are pretty effective against ground vehicles, some just a bit over-effective, but not aerial AV stuff. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!

Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1388	Posted - 2014.06.06 01:59:00 - [11] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Bro, its a viper. You can take one of those down even with milita swarms. I could have probably brought it down with my milita forge gun and I'm a pretty bad forger. I loose assault dropships all the time
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:03:00 - [12] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Bro, its a viper. You can take one of those down even with milita swarms. I could have probably brought it down with my milita forge gun and I'm a pretty bad forger. I loose assault dropships all the time Not single handedly when everyone is busy taking down other players, and other vehicles that are spawn destroying them. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Master Kail R 0 N 1 N 47	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:04:00 - [13] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Master Kail wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Just use the Militia Swarm launcher tactically.. it's OP I tell you Your humour is OP. But yeah seriously Av grenades forge guns and some explosives are pretty effective against ground vehicles, some just a bit over-effective, but not aerial AV stuff. Thx :) But have you seen what the knock-back alone from ANY swarm launcher will do to dropships? They like to hit walls and get stuck on the infamous ninja street lamp. o.O Everything I touch... Turns Blue Minmatar Scout Hacker and Falcoooon Puncher E-War specialist for R0N1N
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:06:00 - [14] - Quote Gooseman Manwhore wrote: 1. It takes a lot to become a good pilot. Isk, experience, sp, etc. 2. If vehicles were banned and all they had was points into vehicles then it wouldn't be very fair to them. 3. We all know this game is unbalanced. In all honesty, you just drew the short straw. I empathize because every time I run ambush I generally run into milkman1 on the opposite team. I constantly get taken down by ADS, and OP tanks. Is it worth complaining over? Not really, because as far as everyone knows it's not going to change anytime soon. Banned from ambush and just ambush, it's not fair that whole teams are to be destroyed by well fitted vehicle team set out, and if that won't change there weren't be updates sent out. Anything can change with an update. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1388	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:08:00 - [15] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Bro, its a viper. You can take one of those down even with milita swarms. I could have probably brought it down with my milita forge gun and I'm a pretty bad forger. I loose assault dropships all the time Not single handedly when everyone is busy taking down other players, and other vehicles that are spawn destroying them. Yeah, you should be able to even with milita av. I've downed a few vipers with my forge. Pro tip, you can shoot out the gunner. Hell you can even shoot one down with an lab and basic or milita rail gun.
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:08:00 - [16] - Quote Master Kail wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Master Kail wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Just use the Militia Swarm launcher tactically.. it's OP I tell you Your humour is OP. But yeah seriously Av grenades forge guns and some explosives are pretty effective against ground vehicles, some just a bit over-effective, but not aerial AV stuff. Thx :) But have you seen what the knock-back alone from ANY swarm launcher will do to dropships? They like to hit walls and get stuck on the infamous ninja street lamp. o.O I got hit by swarmers before and I don't get a problem from the knockback unless my vehicle accidentally goes into kamikaze mode when I move forward, good thing that's rare. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:12:00 - [17] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. 1) It wasn't an ordinary viper 2) Most of us probably didn't have proto swarmers or forge guns 3) Of course no one can kill a vehicle fitted with high defense, offensive and running away. Bro, its a viper. You can take one of those down even with milita swarms. I could have probably brought it down with my milita forge gun and I'm a pretty bad forger. I loose assault dropships all the time Not single handedly when everyone is busy taking down other players, and other vehicles that are spawn destroying them. Yeah, you should be able to even with milita av. I've downed a few vipers with my forge. Pro tip, you can shoot out the gunner. Hell you can even shoot one down with an lab and basic or milita rail gun. I know that, but it's not too hard to fit a vehicle if you have things to balance it out. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Master Kail R 0 N 1 N 47	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:12:00 - [18] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: I got hit by swarmers before and I don't get a problem from the knockback unless my vehicle accidentally goes into kamikaze mode when I move forward, good thing that's rare. Wow you're lucky o.O I fly as a gunner.. a lot.. and we get knocked around ...a lot.. by swarms and it's not exactly my pilot's first flight either. Everything I touch... Turns Blue Minmatar Scout Hacker and Falcoooon Puncher E-War specialist for R0N1N
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 801	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:18:00 - [19] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. Not really Assault Dropships are quickly becoming a new FOTM over tanks. They can kill tanks quickly, target infantry whenever they want, and hide in the sky when they feel it's getting risky. Not to mention, they are far faster than tanks, and can simply hover in the blind spot over a tank until it is dead. Most infantry and ground vehicles have no way of fighting back to a well built ADS. It's becoming the coward's suit of choice right next to the max tanked Heavy suits with Proto HMG. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust, theme
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan 528	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:19:00 - [20] - Quote Gÿ+/ /Gûî / \ ^This guy is an ADS pilot. He also loves Ambush. His reaction when he finds out vehicles are flat out banned from Ambush: GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæ GûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûæ GûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûê GûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûêGûæGûæGûäGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûäGûäGûäGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇ GûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæ GûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ He then says "** CCP", " Dust", " life", and silly stuff like that and proceeds to find a different game to play. I imagine most vehicle users who regularly run Ambush would be disappointed as well. Lloyd Orfay wrote: LT SHANKS wrote:** Props to the pilot. Props? Missile launchers aren't hard to use Aiming is the actual hard part. pâ¬péñpâòpâ½pü«tÄïpü½pü¬péïpÇé --pâ¬pâùpâ¬pâ+pâ¬péñpâ¬pâ+

Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:29:00 - [21] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Gÿ+/ /Gûî / \ ^This guy is an ADS pilot. He also loves Ambush. His reaction when he finds out vehicles are flat out banned from Ambush: GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæ GûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûæ GûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæn++ûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûê GûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûêGûæGûæGûäGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûäGûäGûäGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇ GûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæ GûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ He then says "** CCP", " Dust", " life", and silly stuff like that and proceeds to find a different game to play. I imagine most vehicle users who regularly run Ambush would be disappointed as well. Lloyd Orfay wrote: LT SHANKS wrote:** Props to the pilot. Props? Missile launchers aren't hard to use Aiming is the actual hard part. Splash damage does well. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 11	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:36:00 - [22] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Gÿ+/ /Gûî / \ ^This guy is an ADS pilot. He also loves Ambush. His reaction when he finds out vehicles are flat out banned from Ambush: GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæ GûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûæ GûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûê GûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûêGûæGûæGûäGûê GûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûäGûäGûäGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇ GûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæ GûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûêGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûäGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûäGûäGûäGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûäGûäGûäGûêGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûêGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûäGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûÇGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ He then says "** CCP", " Dust", " life", and silly stuff like that and proceeds to find a different game to play. I imagine most vehicle users who regularly run Ambush would be disappointed as well. Lloyd Orfay wrote: LT SHANKS wrote:** Props to the pilot. Props? Missile launchers aren't hard to use Aiming is the actual hard part. Aiming does take a bit of skill but it's not like it's something you must master after years of practice, while you are buffing up your KDR in ambush everyone else is having a bad time, even your team because you take all the kills, its fair. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1388	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:40:00 - [23] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: your telling me your team couldn't down a viper? That sucka but really, they deserved to die. Yes ambush should be vehicle free. Not really Assault Dropships are quickly becoming a new FOTM over tanks. They can kill tanks quickly, target infantry whenever they want, and hide in the sky when they feel it's getting risky. Not to mention, they are far faster than tanks, and can simply hover in the blind spot over a tank until it is dead. Most infantry and ground vehicles have no way of fighting back to a well built ADS. It's becoming the coward's suit of choice right next to the max tanked Heavy suits with Proto HMG. Uhm a viper is a milita dropship.... Lol ads being fotm. It takes about a month to skill into a halfway decent assault dropship. They can kill tanks quickly if you have ads and racial ads skills to 5, so 2 mil sp. Even then you have to actually know how to aim wit the gun or have gunners which is also hard for some pilots. Plus it takes a few weeks to get any good at flying. Then there is the isk bar, 400k just for the hull before you put anything on it.if you put milita stuff on you can make it close to 500k but your not gonna kill much of anything, especially not tanks. Then you get to loose it to things like rdv's and rail tanks, and milita swarm knock swarm knock and suicide dropships and null cannons and ai turrets etc etc. If there is a decent forge gunner I can't engage infantry whenever I want. You can hide in your red line. If a tank operator is good he can shake an ads, or teamwork. Also with nos a tank can almost match a dropships speed. Infantry have plenty of options to fight back. As do tanks, though they seem unwilling to fit a top turret and get a gunner to fight back against a dropship. Remember a dropship is using small turrets too, and I top turret covers the blind spot. If you think its cowardly come fly with me, I warn you my dropship only has one barf bag per fight and you have to drop behind enemy lines. Also red line runs with only one second to spare getting out. Vehicles shouldn't belong in ambush, especially not dropships as they are designed for rapid deployment and such. Ambush maps are too small. but the dropship certainly isn't a fotm. Have you skilled into it?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9156	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:29:00 - [24] - Quote I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
Tesfa Alem ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:48:00 - [25] - Quote I don't have too much sympathy for players who spam vehicles in ambush ad i don't buy the exucse that vehicle users will leave. There is only two people on each side that get to call in anything. This hasn't stopped vehicle based players from joiing matches and slogging it out as infantry, and has done the opposite of driving infantry based players away from ambush. It is slightly funny that a viper wrecked a whole team, i wonder if i could pull it off in skirm. Off to try a new build, it'll proabably last all of 5 seconds. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 13	Posted - 2014.06.06 04:09:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Yepyepyepyepypyepyep Yep. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 13	Posted - 2014.06.06 04:14:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Either ads dropships look too much like vipers or someone can micromanage with CPU and PG items like I can sometimes and added as much shielding they can possible. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10500	Posted - 2014.06.06 04:16:00 - [28] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Atiim wrote: I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Yepyepyepyepypyepyep Yep. I wont deny vehicles do need out of Ambush..... I however would like to see an elimination style Land vehicles and Air vehicles game mode. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 13	Posted - 2014.06.06 04:17:00 - [29] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Atiim wrote: I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Either ads dropships look too much like vipers or someone can micromanage with CPU and PG items like I can sometimes and added as much shielding they can possible. Alsoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Tried it myself, it was a viper. If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!
Lloyd Orfay Fantom Company 13	Posted - 2014.06.06 04:33:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lloyd Orfay wrote: Atiim wrote: I agree with this statement here: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Firstly, don't use Ambush to asses vehicle balance. It's the map design and spawn system that heavily imbalances vehicles in that gamemode. Constantly moving battlefronts do not allow AV to setup strategic positions to attack vehicles while being defended from the [hostile] infantry by their squad. At any time a player can spawn behind you, the battlefront can move, and there is no tactic to stop that. This removes the ability to play strategically. The maps and sockets are also to open and too small, allowing vehicles to cover the entire map in a short period of time. This leaves AV players exposed while 150m ranged Blaster Tanks with seemingly endless ammo and no cooldown, or [inaudible] douchebags in ADSs shoot at them with impunity. Ambush should have no vehicles; it currently doesn't have the correct design for it. So while frustrating, and you'll never see me in an ADS in Ambush, we need to look to more strategic modes to asses vehicles. I don't want to be guilty of taking this out of context, so I'll just place this here. Yepyepyepyepypyepyep Yep. I wont deny vehicles do need out of Ambush..... I however would like to see an elimination style Land vehicles and Air vehicles game mode. How about LAV derby? If I can't kill an enemy, I'll just use my heaps of dead clones!



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