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Schecter 666
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:18:00 -
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Why are rounds disappearing from my clip when I'm not shooting my weapon?
Why are people lagging so hard that they're skipping in front of my bullets to the point where there is literally no hit detection?
Why is EVERY SINGLE GAME nothing but tank spam! No matter how many tanks you destroy they always pull out more, because they have infinite ISK, how are you supposed to compete with that?
I don't appreciate having to switch to a forge gun and getting constantly mowed down by infantry as I pathetically attempt to take down a militia tank because I can't fight back.
Why is a MILITIA asset the most ISK-efficient and arguably the best asset in the game?
Domination is a joke of a game mode, one team takes the point and holds it the entire game.
Matchmaking, is a joke, I'm constantly seeing teams cloned out by 60-100 clones. I am constantly seeing a red kill-feed whereby the enemy team sometimes gets 20 kills before my team gets one.
Why am I always on the losing side?
Why is that as soon as I group up we are against 16 randoms and redline every game?
It's boring every game.
DUST is impossible to play, it's no fun whatsoever. I won't play it anymore, even though it's free. You hear that CCP,
your product is so bad I'm not going to play it even though it's free.
And answer me this, how come I can destroy an armour-hardened Madrugar with a CRD assault scrambler rifle but I can't destroy a dropship with a rail rifle? Why can't dropships be destroyed with small-arms-fire?! Just now it had 0 shield 0 armour, we all shot at it with rail rifles etc and it just repped it's shield. It had no driver, it was on the ground, in fact he crashed it and we still couldn't destroy it.
Dropships need serious balancing, they can just get above your tank and you can't aim high enough to shoot them or move fast enough, they have no obstacles but you do, you can't just keep on moving backwards trying to move fast enough to get the dropship in your line of fire because you crash into something. And do I need to mention how ridiculously overpowered the one-shot infantry missiles are? And the fact that they can just boost away from your swarms and then rep through them?
So that's about it, I just threw my controller on the ground because ammo was disappearing from my gun whilst I wasn't firing it and people were lagging so hard they were moving in front of my bullets.
Every single game is nothing but tank spam, I played 3 games just now and all it was, was being farmed by the enemy side's MILITIA tanks.
So, you let an EA guy - EA who have been voted worst company in America for 2 years running who are a DISGUSTING company - take over the project and what does he do? Push micro-transactions right after nailing the coffin tight.
Now the game is so laggy it's unplayable and furthermore it's cancelled.
Great job CCP, looks like EA are really helping you out.
Expect a completely broken Legion beta in 1-2 years time with a fully-functional micro-transaction market.
Until then, enjoy having your proto suits farmed by 5 militia tanks.
Not trying to get attention, just stating what really annoys me in this game and how it's driven me to quit. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
958
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:27:00 -
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Yep, The peoples of Africa should be burning this instead of wood or other forms of biomass.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
CCP Logibro is not forum, Mike Ruan is forum!
GJR Said I was Dust Famous
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9102
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:29:00 -
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G'day mate.
I suggest leaving the area as quick as possible and contacting your local Game Master or Moderator, as you've managed to awaken the feral trolls sleeping under the bridge. It's their mating season, so they're really aggressive.
Though whatever you do, don't consume popcorn. It's the main ingredient in trollbait, and it's scent can rile them up real easy.
HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior
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Onesimus Tarsus
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
2049
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:30:00 -
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These strong feelings you are having are similar to the struggle in your lungs just before you drown and the peaceful slumber of death begins.
Battlefield 1943. Running since 2009. I'm diskinetic, BTW.
Birth, growth, decline, death.
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
26
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:32:00 -
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I don't know what is up with your gameplay but mine has been fine besides the terrible lag. Also, how are you not destroying dropships? They're really easy to take down, just use a MLT Railgun tank redline and done. If you're in a tank and a ADS is hovering over you you could drive back for a few seconds and then drive forward, doing this will cause the ADS to misfire, happens to me anyways. Don't be one of those stupid tanks that are constantly in the same spot.
Logistics ak.0
ADS Pilot
PSN: Riptalis
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Egonz4
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:49:00 -
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Well u have some good points but some aren't ......killing a D's with an assault rifle? Really......?
And drop ships need balancing.....ppl spend 500K isk just to assault drop ship.... And if you are good you can go around average 20-1...but that one drop ship you lose makes your next few matches a no gain.....drop ships should be good if u have to invest a half million isk just to fly one!.....they are one of the most balanced things in the game
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
2591
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:08:00 -
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Preach it brother!
I've been playing KZ4 for a time now, and yes, the game has issues, design-wise, though it can be argued that I'm simply dissagreeing on some points.
The good thing is that every single thing works as far as I've seen, just on the top of my head:
- Constant good framerate.
- No lag whatsoever, absolutely nothing.
- Much better map design and graphics, although the maps are filled with rubble and has a much more organic feel than Dust, I haven't been wallgrabbed at all. 
- At no point did my character refuse to run after I pressed the "run" button.
- There is no guns with a push back effect that stops my character in his tracks.
- There is as far as I've experienced balance between the classes and the guns, I haven't seen anything even close to being OP so far.
Its just such a sweet feeling, the thing I've felt the most is the fluidity and consistency of it all. If I go ADS and move a little to the left, well guess what? My cursor goes a little to the left. Its not like in Dust where it sometimes goes fast and sometimes slow, and a lot of times it goes just a little and then it suddenly jumps too far... Seriously, it was actually close to a chock playing this game after 2 years of Suck 514, I've sort of forgotten how its supposed to be.
- What a fantastic game Dust could have been if it'd been on the PS4 and developed by monkeys...
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:21:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Well u have some good points but some aren't ......killing a D's with an assault rifle? Really......?
And drop ships need balancing.....ppl spend 500K isk just to assault drop ship.... And if you are good you can go around average 20-1...but that one drop ship you lose makes your next few matches a no gain.....drop ships should be good if u have to invest a half million isk just to fly one!.....they are one of the most balanced things in the game
I think that really is the bit of information that smart people like me have been actually emphasizing about for a while:
if you get a game where you can constantly go 20+ to 1 on KDR, then the ultimate impact is people stop playing the game. And lets not kid ourselves about one thing; players who are beginning have realistically NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER OF CATCHING UP TO PLAYERS WITH THE 30+M SP!!! New players are going to get minor skill learning [because getting protostomped doesn't teach you anything except where to run to which is really the redline which teaches you nothing] and their skill points won't really rack up at the same level that even a player with 20M can.
Now if you want the more detailed explanation then it would also go on to being when more players leave, the overall expected percent of the population who would also buy Aurum also falls. When the amount of aurum/microtransactions decrease then the overall profitability of the game also takes a significant hit.
If you want to even take this one step further, you get a metacritic score as currently ****** as Dust514 has on ALL game websites and it results in anyone in the market wanting a good FPS game without knowing anything about the history of Dust itself will just look at reviews and would turn potential customers into players just waiting for Destiny.
That there isn't anything about a troll or what not. Game glitches are still pretty present. I've died twice today from suicide because I was autokilled when redlining an opponent and my timer said i had 8 seconds left and I died at 4 seconds *shrugs*. Happened twice today alone and 4 times this month so I think it qualifies as a glitch [and one I've reported oh months ago so I don't expect it being fixed]. When cloaked and I jump into rock formations I sometimes get stock. Happened 3 times this month *shrugs*. I think that's a glitch too. Lag has gotten a bit worse and CCP says they did nothing on the server end *shrugs*.
Yea we've all heard these complaints and the typical player response is like Star Wars "move along, move along". I mena that's fine and dandy, really whatever. But it's also this attitude of "playing the saddest song on the world's tiniest violin" toward general rants and complaints that really lets a company kind of not care at all.
Sony had to have nearly its whole gamer base screaming at their necks after the ANON attacks to make dramatic changes and shake ups at the corporate head offices and leadership positions. CCP seems rather snugly defended by its pc and white knights here. I used to tell my students something it was "with some people there's never a point to asking nicely if you don't have the power to enforce it". That's CCP and it would take not just console players alienated by Dust but a larger proportion of players to really be up in arms for them to really sit down and fix Dust.
They don't ever have to and probably won't because enough of posters on this forum are indicative of the "idc" or "go away with your complaints" mentality so what's the use for CCP to do anything? Likewise if Dust is a glimpse of what Legion is, if they can't get something to a nicely polished state in a year after release then it's already a bad show for Legion; you are using a lot of what Dust is for Legion and the same ppl, experience and expertise for it as well.
The game is horrible and unplayable at times. It's not like we have any other FPS games on the console to choose from so saying some ppl are playing by default is really the polite way of saying players like me have no problems dropping ship the first sign we can. Here's a real life scenario for some of the simpletons out there. I have a custom built desktop but I buy a laptop also because I have to take my work with me. I've brought from various brands and I'll never buy a Dell mainly. Now that first time I passed on a Dell, it was one time sure. However in the decades I am to live I'll be passing up a total of maybe 30 Dell laptops overall let alone anyone who asks me what laptop I recommend I would pretty much say "not Dell" which increases the potential number of sales lost also. Overall Dell may have lost 3 dozen sales of a laptop alone from one customer.
Now if we take this whole situation created by CCP and calculate the number of customers who will never return once an alternative like Destiny launches and the number of players who really did a test run of, hated it and deleted it, that's a huge number of players CCP basically lost sales on for just current Dust microtransactions as well as future microtransactions for Dust & Legion AND Valkyrie as I also know some players are going to refuse to support CCP on any other future game after Dust.
That's why I said smart people look at posts like this and dissect it because its not the only one and with the number of these posts being bombarded all over the forums, it's not a fluke either. Silly people look these posts and really don't actually get a clue of what really the larger picture is. |
Eko Sol
Strange Playings
440
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:34:00 -
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Join A/V united and I'll pick you up next time southpac and I are on. We'll run AV together and you'll see how I use ADV Swarms and He uses forge and watch as the "tank spam" is just "spank spam" real quick.
Now that I think about it, I should probably pick up more AV'ers so they can participate in this. It's actually quite fun.
All of your complaints are invalid in my mind except the bug and lag points. I actually think it is fun to redline the other team.
A) It's recruiting central. If your corp is short staffed and you do feel bad for them then request they apply to your corp.
B) When I first started I got redlined so many times I couldn't count. I put up with it. I actually didn't start getting angry at the game until I got to a level where the only time I really lose a firefight is a GREAT player or some crazy lag or bug happens and I'm shot down for it.
Anyway, the key is to find yourself in better squads or corps. Period.
I have my gripes about the game but it 90% because of lag and bugs.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games
Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
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Powerh8er
Heaven's Lost Property
434
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:40:00 -
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Tl; DR. Get good. |
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Dimashq and Al-Shams Troops of Al-Fil
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:44:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:That's CCP and it would take not just console players alienated by Dust but a larger proportion of players to really be up in arms for them to really sit down and fix Dust.
That's why I said smart people look at posts like this and dissect it because its not the only one and with the number of these posts being bombarded all over the forums, it's not a fluke either. Silly people look these posts and really don't actually get a clue of what really the larger picture is.
Not to dismiss anything that you said but I found these two points to be spot on .
The first is similar to what I said in Eko Sol's post about burn out and the fact that if everyone doesn't stand up and proclaim their point , then nothing will get or be done . The fact that management still hasn't made a public apology about what happened at FF is one glaring point that can not be refuted .
The second point is so true a as well and I can't for the life of me , understand why you still find those in this community .. still willing to make excuses for CCP's treatment of the same community and their dismissive nature of said persons .
The silly one's will attack you and claim that you know nothing , all the while touting CCP's record as being a tolerable business model . They attack and attack away like CCP's hold over them is just that strong and that's sad .
This is no community and if you find someone whom you don't agree with , then comes the attacks and insults ... where the bulk of the people here are suppose to be adults . You have pockets of friends like it's high school and this community will never come together because if they could , we wouldn't have half the problems that occur in this game .
All they care about is killing roles , what's OP and the next FOTM but proclaim that they care and challenge if you do or not , like they have the right to do so .... I guess they do because we are all free but to me that's an insult .
Passion is more than giving this game time and effort , even more so when you feel alienated to the point of not even feeling like playing to begin with .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
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Posted - 2014.06.03 21:52:00 -
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Schecter 666 wrote: Why can't dropships be destroyed with small-arms-fire?!
Dropships need serious balancing, they can just get above your tank and you can't aim high enough to shoot them or move fast enough, they have no obstacles but you do, you can't just keep on moving backwards trying to move fast enough to get the dropship in your line of fire because you crash into something. And do I need to mention how ridiculously overpowered the one-shot infantry missiles are? And the fact that they can just boost away from your swarms and then rep through them?
Sigh....
Alright first up, a buddy of mine has destroyed dropships with a sniper rifle when it had almost no health so that was a problem on your end.
Now, you want the dropship to simply die because you brought out your tank or swarms. Not because you use them skillfully, but simply because you have them. You don't want a dropship to be able to fight back against you. To that I will simply say htfu.
Dropships can have obsticals they must avoid when chasing tanks, such as bridges and buildings. Though a tank has to use the obsticals to his advantage. If you simply reverse in an open field thinking you will get the dropship in range, your a bad tanker and should feel bad about what you have said.
I hate having to give advice to people who want nothing more than to down my dropship but I pity you for not learning how we operate and learning how to fight us. If you want an advantage on a dropship fit a nos. You can pretty much match a dropships speed with one. Now its up to you to figure out how to use it.
Actually you have to hit the infantry directly to kill them in one shot, with splash it takes two, with heavies it takes 3 (almost half a clip) the only thing that dies in one shot to splash is scouts. Mind you I'm talking about prototype missiles. If you think its easy gunning in a dropship I challenge you to do better than one of my gunners who has flown with me for months if not a year.
An afterburner is our only counter measure for swarms. Our only option is to turn and burn or kill the swarmer. Doesn't matter what kind of maneuver I do without afterburning, they will hit me. So unless we get some chaff or someway to counteract them its not a problem.
Also, we boost away and then rep through them? You mean they hit us after we burn away and we rep through them? Or we rep once we are gone?
Another, "I don't like dropships so they should just be bad" gripe, did the thought of learning how to kill a dropship ever cross your mind?
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
440
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Posted - 2014.06.03 22:29:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Schecter 666 wrote: Why can't dropships be destroyed with small-arms-fire?!
Dropships need serious balancing, they can just get above your tank and you can't aim high enough to shoot them or move fast enough, they have no obstacles but you do, you can't just keep on moving backwards trying to move fast enough to get the dropship in your line of fire because you crash into something. And do I need to mention how ridiculously overpowered the one-shot infantry missiles are? And the fact that they can just boost away from your swarms and then rep through them? Sigh.... Alright first up, a buddy of mine has destroyed dropships with a sniper rifle when it had almost no health so that was a problem on your end. Now, you want the dropship to simply die because you brought out your tank or swarms. Not because you use them skillfully, but simply because you have them. You don't want a dropship to be able to fight back against you. To that I will simply say htfu. Dropships can have obsticals they must avoid when chasing tanks, such as bridges and buildings. Though a tank has to use the obsticals to his advantage. If you simply reverse in an open field thinking you will get the dropship in range, your a bad tanker and should feel bad about what you have said. I hate having to give advice to people who want nothing more than to down my dropship but I pity you for not learning how we operate and learning how to fight us. If you want an advantage on a dropship fit a nos. You can pretty much match a dropships speed with one. Now its up to you to figure out how to use it. Actually you have to hit the infantry directly to kill them in one shot, with splash it takes two, with heavies it takes 3 (almost half a clip) the only thing that dies in one shot to splash is scouts. Mind you I'm talking about prototype missiles. If you think its easy gunning in a dropship I challenge you to do better than one of my gunners who has flown with me for months if not a year. An afterburner is our only counter measure for swarms. Our only option is to turn and burn or kill the swarmer. Doesn't matter what kind of maneuver I do without afterburning, they will hit me. So unless we get some chaff or someway to counteract them its not a problem. Also, we boost away and then rep through them? You mean they hit us after we burn away and we rep through them? Or we rep once we are gone? Another, "I don't like dropships so they should just be bad" gripe, did the thought of learning how to kill a dropship ever cross your mind?
I think you nailed it. I just started piloting an incubus and run MLT/STD missile turret so I can fit enough elements to not die. One day I may get my Missile turret and a whole bunch of optimization but until then I just have to deal with the weaker damage. A point you didn't make is how many skill points it costs to be a survivable drop ship while still being able to hurt clones and other vehicles. To get my perfect Incubus fit will cost about 5 mil SP I think. Maybe a bit less BUT ALL I DO IS INCUBUS. I don't tank. I don't care about anything else but the drop ship. Large numbers of ADS pilots are multi vehicle capable and spend
So things that people don't take into factor about ADS:
1) Well fitted ADS are half mil and crappy fitted ones are still 400k isk and go down without much issue even against swarms
2) Takes a ridiculous amount of skill points to specialize
3) Most, except my fit, can be one shotted by a triple damage modded rail tank sitting 200 meters in the red waiting for that one shot against you because they suck and can't do anything else. It's part of the game so I'm not really complaining...but I won't call them good for good reason.
4) It takes a lot of lost drop ships and ALOT of practice to get any good with them. I hit 7/0 in one match. It's going to be a while.
5) Teammates sometimes think it's funny to nail your drop ship with their drop ship for fun. Some of them shoot you with their forge to throw you off course and try to crash you. Some will kill you and steal it in Factional Warfare and sometimes I have to actually kill someone that gets too close.
6) Your squad mates always want you to risk your half mil isk ship to take their 30k suit to some stupid spot and you have to argue that it's dumb as hell after all of the times you get shot down.
7) Eventually, no matter what, there will be a match where 7 MLT forgers or better just take you out. No time to react you are just gone. Yayyyyy, paper thin vehicle.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games
Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
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Doctor Day
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.06.03 22:45:00 -
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Just leaves this got damn game Destiny bEta is free get it
Its ruined by proto stompers with proto acrs and combat rifles
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Jack Kuzio
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.04 00:32:00 -
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I honestly have to agree. This game does have some major balance issues. The reserves about 13 to 56 and the same guy is calling air strikes constantly and there are about 2 tanks which are unkillable regardless of what gun you try. The enemies seem to be loaded with one hit kill guns as I'm unloading into some guys back with a heavy machine gun and he turns around and kills me with a burst from a smg and I'm dead. I really want to play this game but god its annoying when I'm fighting a dozen people with prototype guns and armor and no matter how hard you try they seem to be able to take down a dozen people with one clip.
Whoevers idea it was to put fresh players in with hardcore vets really needs to be beaten senseless. |
Zirzo Valcyn
Gunners Acadamy
542
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Posted - 2014.06.04 00:39:00 -
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i lol'ed at the RR vs dropship part..
wait for the PLC/AV nade buff- you're just making the pilot laugh at you from above when you and your buddies tryhard at it with RR's
srsly the PLC/AV nade buff will give you a fighting chance vs dropship stop asking for your stupid rail rifle to counter dropships
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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