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Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Schecter 666 wrote:

Why can't dropships be destroyed with small-arms-fire?!

Dropships need serious balancing, they can just get above your tank and you can't aim high enough to shoot them or move fast enough, they have no obstacles but you do, you can't just keep on moving backwards trying to move fast enough to get the dropship in your line of fire because you crash into something. And do I need to mention how ridiculously overpowered the one-shot infantry missiles are? And the fact that they can just boost away from your swarms and then rep through them?

Sigh....

Alright first up, a buddy of mine has destroyed dropships with a sniper rifle when it had almost no health so that was a problem on your end.

Now, you want the dropship to simply die because you brought out your tank or swarms. Not because you use them skillfully, but simply because you have them. You don't want a dropship to be able to fight back against you. To that I will simply say htfu.

Dropships can have obsticals they must avoid when chasing tanks, such as bridges and buildings. Though a tank has to use the obsticals to his advantage. If you simply reverse in an open field thinking you will get the dropship in range, your a bad tanker and should feel bad about what you have said.
I hate having to give advice to people who want nothing more than to down my dropship but I pity you for not learning how we operate and learning how to fight us. If you want an advantage on a dropship fit a nos. You can pretty much match a dropships speed with one. Now its up to you to figure out how to use it.

Actually you have to hit the infantry directly to kill them in one shot, with splash it takes two, with heavies it takes 3 (almost half a clip) the only thing that dies in one shot to splash is scouts. Mind you I'm talking about prototype missiles. If you think its easy gunning in a dropship I challenge you to do better than one of my gunners who has flown with me for months if not a year.

An afterburner is our only counter measure for swarms. Our only option is to turn and burn or kill the swarmer. Doesn't matter what kind of maneuver I do without afterburning, they will hit me. So unless we get some chaff or someway to counteract them its not a problem.
Also, we boost away and then rep through them? You mean they hit us after we burn away and we rep through them? Or we rep once we are gone?

Another, "I don't like dropships so they should just be bad" gripe, did the thought of learning how to kill a dropship ever cross your mind?


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Eko Sol Strange Playings 440	Posted - 2014.06.03 21:34:00 - [1] - Quote Join A/V united and I'll pick you up next time southpac and I are on. We'll run AV together and you'll see how I use ADV Swarms and He uses forge and watch as the "tank spam" is just "spank spam" real quick. Now that I think about it, I should probably pick up more AV'ers so they can participate in this. It's actually quite fun. All of your complaints are invalid in my mind except the bug and lag points. I actually think it is fun to redline the other team. A) It's recruiting central. If your corp is short staffed and you do feel bad for them then request they apply to your corp. B) When I first started I got redlined so many times I couldn't count. I put up with it. I actually didn't start getting angry at the game until I got to a level where the only time I really lose a firefight is a GREAT player or some crazy lag or bug happens and I'm shot down for it. Anyway, the key is to find yourself in better squads or corps. Period. I have my gripes about the game but it 90% because of lag and bugs. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
Eko Sol Strange Playings 440	Posted - 2014.06.03 22:29:00 - [2] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Schecter 666 wrote: Why can't dropships be destroyed with small-arms-fire?! Dropships need serious balancing, they can just get above your tank and you can't aim high enough to shoot them or move fast enough, they have no obstacles but you do, you can't just keep on moving backwards trying to move fast enough to get the dropship in your line of fire because you crash into something. And do I need to mention how ridiculously overpowered the one-shot infantry missiles are? And the fact that they can just boost away from your swarms and then rep through them? Sigh.... Alright first up, a buddy of mine has destroyed dropships with a sniper rifle when it had almost no health so that was a problem on your end. Now, you want the dropship to simply die because you brought out your tank or swarms. Not because you use them skillfully, but simply because you have them. You don't want a dropship to be able to fight back against you. To that I will simply say htfu. Dropships can have obsticals they must avoid when chasing tanks, such as bridges and buildings. Though a tank has to use the obsticals to his advantage. If you simply reverse in an open field thinking you will get the dropship in range, your a bad tanker and should feel bad about what you have said. I hate having to give advice to people who want nothing more than to down my dropship but I pity you for not learning how we operate and learning how to fight us. If you want an advantage on a dropship fit a nos. You can pretty much match a dropships speed with one. Now its up to you to figure out how to use it. Actually you have to hit the infantry directly to kill them in one shot, with splash it takes two, with heavies it takes 3 (almost half a clip) the only thing that dies in one shot to splash is scouts. Mind you I'm talking about prototype missiles. If you think its easy gunning in a dropship I challenge you to do better than one of my gunners who has flown with me for months if not a year. An afterburner is our only counter measure for swarms. Our only option is to turn and burn or kill the swarmer. Doesn't matter what kind of maneuver I do without afterburning, they will hit me. So unless we get some chaff or someway to counteract them its not a problem. Also, we boost away and then rep through them? You mean they hit us after we burn away and we rep through them? Or we rep once we are gone? Another, "I don't like dropships so they should just be bad" gripe, did the thought of learning how to kill a dropship ever cross your mind? I think you nailed it. I just started piloting an incubus and run MLT/STD missile turret so I can fit enough elements to not die. One day I may get my Missile turret and a whole bunch of optimization but until then I just have to deal with the weaker damage. A point you didn't make is how many skill points it costs to be a survivable drop ship while still being able to hurt clones and other vehicles. To get my perfect Incubus fit will cost about 5 mil SP I think. Maybe a bit less BUT ALL I DO IS INCUBUS. I don't tank. I don't care about anything else but the drop ship. Large numbers of ADS pilots are multi vehicle capable and spend So things that people don't take into factor about ADS: 1) Well fitted ADS are half mil and crappy fitted ones are still 400k isk and go down without much issue even against swarms 2) Takes a ridiculous amount of skill points to specialize 3) Most, except my fit, can be one shotted by a triple damage modded rail tank sitting 200 meters in the red waiting for that one shot against you because they suck and can't do anything else. It's part of the game so I'm not really complaining...but I won't call them good for good reason. 4) It takes a lot of lost drop ships and ALOT of practice to get any good with them. I hit 7/0 in one match. It's going to be a while. 5) Teammates sometimes think it's funny to nail your drop ship with their drop ship for fun. Some of them shoot you with their forge to throw you off course and try to crash you. Some will kill you and steal it in Factional Warfare and sometimes I have to actually kill someone that gets too close. 6) Your squad mates always want you to risk your half mil isk ship to take their 30k suit to some stupid spot and you have to argue that it's dumb as hell after all of the times you get shot down. 7) Eventually, no matter what, there will be a match where 7 MLT forgers or better just take you out. No time to react you are just gone. Yayyyyy, paper thin vehicle. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...