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KingBabar
MAG was better...
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I believe the reason for the low gun game comes from COD and Battlefield.
People are used to only have to keep your aim on target for a split second, and even that is done to you by a "snap on" aim assist system. In DUST after the initial aiming you still have to track the target.
Hell before aim assist the vets were like gods in public matches, since the average blueberry couldn't aim for ****.
Well, I dunno, its not like my KDR took a nosedive after the introduction of AA.
A lot of us come from MAG so we are indeed used to proper tracking..
I think it has more to do with the "point and click" players of this community, you know, the ones doing too much dying and too little adapting.... and obviously the vet advantages...
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:49:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:KingBabar wrote:You all suck.
Well obviously not you my love.
I have never seen you do anything but play like a proper logi, one that is Beast at supporting AND have good gungame, better than a lot dediated slayers' out there...
<3
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1061
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:53:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I believe the reason for the low gun game comes from COD and Battlefield.
People are used to only have to keep your aim on target for a split second, and even that is done to you by a "snap on" aim assist system. In DUST after the initial aiming you still have to track the target.
Hell before aim assist the vets were like gods in public matches, since the average blueberry couldn't aim for ****. Well, I dunno, its not like my KDR took a nosedive after the introduction of AA. A lot of us come from MAG so we are indeed used to proper tracking.. I think it has more to do with the "point and click" players of this community, you know, the ones doing too much dying and too little adapting.... and obviously the vet advantages...
The low gun game stems from CCP having the ridiculous idea of players gaining huge advantages the longer you play. That horrible NPE created a constant stream of new players joining, then quitting before getting better. Then there's the corps that are able to fund multiple squads with the best gear in the game at no financial loss, increasing the already large gap.
An FPS requires balance from the bottom to the top of the food chain. CCP is unable to accept that fact. |
Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
576
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:55:00 -
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WHO is this dude ?
=ƒÿ£=ƒÿ¥=ƒÿ£=ƒÿ¥=ƒÿ£
GG bro
War never changes
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
187
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:56:00 -
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Another self-indulgent obituary these are getting old |
Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
739
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:57:00 -
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Mag sucked and so does dust. Sorry you regret spending whatever large sum of money you did. Probably a good time to mention that more and more f2p games are hovering dangerously close to online gambling models. Stop paying in like that. |
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
202
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:59:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Bye everyone.
I just hit the famous last nail in the coffin.
After 30 minutes of play today I actually wanted to get up and do the dishes, which says it all.
Dust was a mediocre lobby shooter at best, but that is as far back as Chromosome, its been going steadily down hill since then.
I will probably not see any of you in Legion, the combined effect of CCPs programming skill and their business ethics have turned me from a fanboy, a paying customer (a lot I'm afraid) to a bittervet full of remorse, I wish I had taken certain people's advice all the way back a year before the release of closed beta when a bunch of guys proclaimed that Dust would suck, you where right, my missplaced hope was clearly wrong.
- I don't blame the "old" PS3 console for this, after all; I did experience MAG lagfree with 256 player battles with far superior, well, come to think of it, everything. I could always make a list... Nah wait, the nade tossing mechanic in Dust is spot on, better than MAGs, but every other aspect of MAG was clearly a lot better. Its not the tech, its the dudes tring to make the tech work....
I am also pointing a fingrer at the community - I've never seen a community with so little average skill and dear I say "lack of good sportsmanship" in my entire life of online gaming. I'm not an especially good player, almost blind, old and slow, still I can get on top of the list in terms of kills in most Dust games. Its not because I'm any good, its because the lot of you have little to no gungame. The amount of people not caring about winning, the amount of people camping either behind the redline or on top of something is simply staggering, not to mention all the tryhard FOTM chasers always taking the route of least resistance. You all suck.
To CCP: The level of incompetence you have shown baffles the mind. You should all hang your heads in shame. If you produced the same level of quality at my workplace, I would fire you a long time ago, thats a simple fact. Perhaps you're better off keeping to your "point and click in space"? A shooter needs proper balancing, which Dust haven't been close to at all. I do however suspect that this is by design due to players flocking to the new hot toy, all to boost sales. This is a fundamentally flawed cocept IMO. There is also the problem of getting the core mechanics working properly, this has also never happened, Dust looks and feels more like a beta than a proper game, which says a lot after a full year of beta and a full year after release.
The game is now deleted off my PS3, I will buy a PS4 soonTM and start to play proper games again, not this drivel.
No you can't get my isk, I will take my 5.2 ish B isk with me to the grave....
Peac3 Bro CU on the PS4 and PLANETSIDE 2
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
739
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:59:00 -
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Noooooooooooooooo
KingBaboons!
Damn...
What took you so long?
CCP made me quit by force lol. Sony will save the day for me though by fixing my console that Dust514 seems to be breaking somehow. FedEx's box to ship my PS3 to Sony should arrive today...
"I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masterbait afterwards." - CCP Lockingbro
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Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
335
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:10:00 -
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The very fact that your here whining about it proves to me your not done playing and you wont be
you will do the same you did with mag
whine and moan until the very last day (while saying youve quit but still logging and playing.)
those who remember you from mag usually roll their eyes at your posts
as if grimace was still making threads
see you on other games
GHOST RECON PHANTOMS HAWKEN Warframe STO
Origin: enjamin86 <-- BF4 64v64
Steam: enjam
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
2558
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:16:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Mag sucked and so does dust. Sorry you regret spending whatever large sum of money you did. Probably a good time to mention that more and more f2p games are hovering dangerously close to online gambling models. Stop paying in like that.
I don't care about the money at all, I can afford it.
But MAG did not suck, well it did at the end but that was a case of having only one server placed in LA which screwed all the EU players, MAG was not a fun game to play with 500 ping....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2129
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:22:00 -
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Nice story, can I have your ISK anyway?
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
2559
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:23:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:The very fact that your here whining about it proves to me your not done playing and you wont be
you will do the same you did with mag
whine and moan until the very last day (while saying youve quit but still logging and playing.)
those who remember you from mag usually roll their eyes at your posts
as if grimace was still making threads
QQing on the forums is a sort of hobby, why can't you people get/accept that?
When they shut down the EU servers the game did suck and yes I QQed a lot. I remember my KDR being at 3 monthly and then dropping down to less than 2 over night, not a fun experience.
So they roll their eyes do they? LOL, I very much doubt that, just look at the close relationshp and not least the forum QQ support I've gotten from the Dust playing MAG elite vets over here.
And its with this like it is in life, most people are simply wrong.
Call me out on a statement that I've posted thats not true and we can talk...
And about MAG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6htqNlWDs
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Team Bad Decisions
64
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:25:00 -
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o7 KingBabar
Your still the only person thats killed me with a Thukker Contact 'nade ever. Had to ask somebody what they were. |
KingBabar
MAG was better...
2559
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:33:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:o7 KingBabar
Your still the only person thats killed me with a Thukker Contact 'nade ever. Had to ask somebody what they were.
That brings back so many memories.
When I first downloaded the very first Dust Beta build I looked through all the guns, suits and whatnot. I saw the contact nades, basically a core locus nade which explodes on impact purcheable at level 3 with Aurum and I thought; "Damn, this game is not supposed to be PTW????"
My close friend also downloaded it and we talked the same day, he made the exact same observation. I posted a thread about them before anyone did and no one believed me or indeed cared, funny how I'm usually right and not many gets it...
Like now in Dust, the Fatty HMG combo is insanely OP and no one seems to agree or even care....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Team Bad Decisions
64
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:43:00 -
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This was actually like a month ago. (Im new, char is old) I've wanted those things in my life ever since. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
9993
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:05:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I believe the reason for the low gun game comes from COD and Battlefield.
People are used to only have to keep your aim on target for a split second, and even that is done to you by a "snap on" aim assist system. In DUST after the initial aiming you still have to track the target.
Hell before aim assist the vets were like gods in public matches, since the average blueberry couldn't aim for ****. Well, I dunno, its not like my KDR took a nosedive after the introduction of AA. A lot of us come from MAG so we are indeed used to proper tracking.. I think it has more to do with the "point and click" players of this community, you know, the ones doing too much dying and too little adapting.... and obviously the vet advantages... Not a nose dive, but watching the K/D of some of DUST's top players, I could definitely see a K/D drop.
On average 2K/D.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Auxiliaries
91
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:22:00 -
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So long man, have not played with you in a long time but always enjoyed the challenge of playing against you every so often.. Good luck in what ever you do after DUST,.
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AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:09:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
I am also pointing a fingrer at the community - I've never seen a community with so little average skill and dear I say "lack of good sportsmanship" in my entire life of online gaming. I'm not an especially good player, almost blind, old and slow, still I can get on top of the list in terms of kills in most Dust games. Its not because I'm any good, its because the lot of you have little to no gungame. The amount of people not caring about winning, the amount of people camping either behind the redline or on top of something is simply staggering, not to mention all the tryhard FOTM chasers always taking the route of least resistance. You all suck.
This is the main reason people still play DUST. It's hard to get bored when you can poop all over noobs all day long. If that's the only reason people play this game, it was bound to fail. Fundamentally, as a FPS, DUST fell miserably short, and only blind fanboys will say otherwsie. I can make a list, but I think by now people know.
So yea, to all of you still playing this game, it's only because you're slightly better than the scrubs currently playing. 1 eyed man in a blindman's land...as they say. How sad. God forbid you find a game that gives you a challenge..."THAT GAME SUCKS!!!"... can't hold a 2+ KD in BF or lolCoD, so obviously the game sucks. Have a 6+ KD in DUST "DUST IS THE SHIZNIT! BEST FPS OUT THERE!!!!"
One thing though, those games do what they do, best. DUST hasn't done anything good except for the RPG aspect, and that isn't a hard thing to do, let's be real. |
KingBabar
MAG was better...
2561
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:09:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:This was actually like a month ago. (Im new, char is old) I've wanted those things in my life ever since.
Really, thats quite funny, I put them on a fitting by mistake, I remember it clearly, I only played 1 game with them and only got 1 kill
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3032
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:26:00 -
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Point on, like usual King of Elephants.
My last Dust act will be to make this CPM Election one to remember
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
159
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:38:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:KingBabar wrote:
I am also pointing a fingrer at the community - I've never seen a community with so little average skill and dear I say "lack of good sportsmanship" in my entire life of online gaming. I'm not an especially good player, almost blind, old and slow, still I can get on top of the list in terms of kills in most Dust games. Its not because I'm any good, its because the lot of you have little to no gungame. The amount of people not caring about winning, the amount of people camping either behind the redline or on top of something is simply staggering, not to mention all the tryhard FOTM chasers always taking the route of least resistance. You all suck.
This is the main reason people still play DUST. It's hard to get bored when you can poop all over noobs all day long. If that's the only reason people play this game, it was bound to fail. Fundamentally, as a FPS, DUST fell miserably short, and only blind fanboys will say otherwsie. I can make a list, but I think by now people know. So yea, to all of you still playing this game, it's only because you're slightly better than the scrubs currently playing. 1 eyed man in a blindman's land...as they say. How sad. God forbid you find a game that gives you a challenge..."THAT GAME SUCKS!!!"... can't hold a 2+ KD in BF or lolCoD, so obviously the game sucks. Have a 6+ KD in DUST "DUST IS THE SHIZNIT! BEST FPS OUT THERE!!!!" One thing though, those games do what they do, best. DUST hasn't done anything good except for the RPG aspect, and that isn't a hard thing to do, let's be real.
I've tried other FPS games, on PC and Console and I suck at them.
Where are those of us that need to 'get gud' supposed to learn?
I'm not kidding. When you get 2 shotted in CoD any time you spawn, there's no way to get better. PvE doesn't do it, at least not for me. the Training Zone's don't shoot back like humans do.
If it wasn't for Dust, I'd never have a FPS I could even go positive on, let alone lead the board (which to be honest, I usually only do with the help of logi WP)
So, seriously, where should those of us that suck go to get better?
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
2564
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:54:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:AFK Godfather wrote:KingBabar wrote:
I am also pointing a fingrer at the community - I've never seen a community with so little average skill and dear I say "lack of good sportsmanship" in my entire life of online gaming. I'm not an especially good player, almost blind, old and slow, still I can get on top of the list in terms of kills in most Dust games. Its not because I'm any good, its because the lot of you have little to no gungame. The amount of people not caring about winning, the amount of people camping either behind the redline or on top of something is simply staggering, not to mention all the tryhard FOTM chasers always taking the route of least resistance. You all suck.
This is the main reason people still play DUST. It's hard to get bored when you can poop all over noobs all day long. If that's the only reason people play this game, it was bound to fail. Fundamentally, as a FPS, DUST fell miserably short, and only blind fanboys will say otherwsie. I can make a list, but I think by now people know. So yea, to all of you still playing this game, it's only because you're slightly better than the scrubs currently playing. 1 eyed man in a blindman's land...as they say. How sad. God forbid you find a game that gives you a challenge..."THAT GAME SUCKS!!!"... can't hold a 2+ KD in BF or lolCoD, so obviously the game sucks. Have a 6+ KD in DUST "DUST IS THE SHIZNIT! BEST FPS OUT THERE!!!!" One thing though, those games do what they do, best. DUST hasn't done anything good except for the RPG aspect, and that isn't a hard thing to do, let's be real. I've tried other FPS games, on PC and Console and I suck at them. Where are those of us that need to 'get gud' supposed to learn? I'm not kidding. When you get 2 shotted in CoD any time you spawn, there's no way to get better. PvE doesn't do it, at least not for me. the Training Zone's don't shoot back like humans do. If it wasn't for Dust, I'd never have a FPS I could even go positive on, let alone lead the board (which to be honest, I usually only do with the help of logi WP) So, seriously, where should those of us that suck go to get better?
I played MAG for about half a year before my KDR turned positive, it was brutal and quite tough.
The issue I have with a lot of Dust players is that they don't really try. Just look at the "Made in Poland" corp, just about every game I see them in they group up with a bunch of heavies and a logi or two and they find themselves a roof or a building and set up camp, most of these guys have even played for a long time.
Do any of you out there think there is some kind of easy route to get good at shooters? Do you think camping on a pipe taking potshots make you a better player over time? No you have to get in there, expose yourself as much as you dare, when you have 3 people shooting at you from 3 different directions at the same time, then you learn how to move and react, its brutal but it works...
COD and Battlefield are games that I avoid completely, the good graphics makes it close to impossible for a "close to blind" dude to see anything. I just end up getting killed without even seing who shot me, and they might be right infromy of me.
My all time MAG KDR was 1.62, my Dust KDR is 5.01. Have I become a better player since then? No not at all, Dust is just an extremely easy game to be "good" at.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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KingBabar
MAG was better...
2565
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Posted - 2014.05.28 21:04:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Point on, like usual King of Elephants. My last Dust act will be to make this CPM Election one to remember
You forgot to roll your eyes at me, you know, like "most MAG vets do"....
I will miss you my friend, lets keep the hope of a MAG 2 alive...
(Do you remember that one time I outscored you and outkilled you in a PC? I never thought that would ever happen )
I miss my old }!{ tags...
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3445
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Posted - 2014.05.28 21:34:00 -
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o7 Babar. Don't think I played many matches with you, last one I can remember was a lagfest and I got d/c'd near the end.
Anyway, in your honor I will try my best to git gud before I completely quit too. It hasn't happened in the last 14 months but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that playing occasionally for a month before Destiny comes out will finally do the trick!
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
779
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Posted - 2014.05.28 22:57:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:See you next time you're pathetically bored...
GG.
I was thinking similar.
Babar, you don't even know what you want. Your posts are full of contradictions as always and you clearly do love this game. |
KingBabar
MAG was better...
2573
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:45:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:See you next time you're pathetically bored...
GG. I was thinking similar. Babar, you don't even know what you want. Your posts are full of contradictions as always and you clearly do love this game. LOL Babar, ever thought your KDR is high because you have protostomped against militia noobs countless times? This is an RPG of sorts. You get killed in battlefield because you have no huge advantage like that. Even the best battlefield players dont regularly get KDR`s anywhere near that high, and I know many with higher in dust.
I go in with a bran new character in Dust and I can easily get a 2 KDR playing random pub games, alone. This has been tested several times by yours truly.
Yes I've mostly had a SP, experience and equipment advantage and better teammates than just about all of the casual players of Dust. I have hit harder, shrugged off their damage, hid from them while still seing them on scans and lately passive scans, I've had a keen eye for effective fittings all along and we could probably go on. This do explain a lot of my very silly 5 KDR. But far from all.
Not when I take all my silly drunk nights, the tons of bad PC games I've played, my 300 HP dual pistols fits that never f@cking works, my tendency to wanna 1 up every single HMG wielding Fatty I come across, despite popular beliefs I have done much more of the silly stuff than the tryhard stuff than most people give me credit for. And my KDR is still 5.
So yeah I agree, I should normally be a 1.2-1.5 KDR player, vet advantage does not IMO explain that huge gap, not when playstyle++ is taken into consideration. The playerbase in Dust is on average very unskilled, I honestly say that due to observations of player behavior, not due to my silly KDR.
(And to be serious here, I do have a blind eye and one thats crocked and has a + 7,5 rating. Its quite ok in Dust and Warhawk, nice red chevrons popping up over people's heads, it was slightly worse but OK in MAG, BF, COD or KZ is a big no for me. If those games did hava a "handicap setting" that helped me out, I would probably be nery happy with a 1.5 KDR. PS2 looks like a good game for me due to its cartoonish appearance.)
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Nstomper
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
598
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:54:00 -
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Took you this long to delete dust? My gosh i actually feel sorry for you that you played it for this long
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
180
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:10:00 -
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o7
AKA - StarVenger
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens Final Resolution.
21
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:41:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I believe the reason for the low gun game comes from COD and Battlefield.
People are used to only have to keep your aim on target for a split second, and even that is done to you by a "snap on" aim assist system. In DUST after the initial aiming you still have to track the target.
Hell before aim assist the vets were like gods in public matches, since the average blueberry couldn't aim for ****. Well, I dunno, its not like my KDR took a nosedive after the introduction of AA. A lot of us come from MAG so we are indeed used to proper tracking.. I think it has more to do with the "point and click" players of this community, you know, the ones doing too much dying and too little adapting.... and obviously the vet advantages...
I miss MAG, you actually had to track your target and put in more than just 1-3 bullets to kill someone unlike CoD or Battlefield... Now a days it's HMG death squads, cloak/shotgun death squads, and remote explosive spam...
I of course went into HMGs since the beta of DUST514 because I loved using those things in different shooter games. Now it's so common to see 'steelmine' HMG or boundless HMG kills...
I'd like to spec into scrambler rifles, reminds me of the 'assault' semi-auto snipers in MAG. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
433
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:57:00 -
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Sad to see you leave, we have good fights against each other, we always new we would get a hard match when playing you. Hope to see you in Destiny, we have full focus on that , looks like they will have a good PVP mode also.
Stay cool man. |
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