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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3260	Posted - 2014.05.23 13:58:00 - [1] - Quote Make it 3/4/5 or 3/4/6. It's a simple fix that will go a long way. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 505	Posted - 2014.05.23 13:59:00 - [2] - Quote Armor tanking is out of control. Bring back the old speed penalties.
THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK THE BONERBOMBS 17	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:02:00 - [3] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Make it 3/4/5 or 3/4/6. It's a simple fix that will go a long way. Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3260	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:02:00 - [4] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Armor tanking is out of control. Bring back the old speed penalties. I could see 3/5/6 or 4/5/6 but i don't think you could go above those numbers without breaking plates. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3260	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:05:00 - [5] - Quote THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Make it 3/4/5 or 3/4/6. It's a simple fix that will go a long way. Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running I Proto Gal everything and have been using plates and reps(with a main focus on reps) And yes, the Gal moves as fast a snail and can take a direct hit from a rail gun. I've done it, shot a Proto Gal heavy with Rail and he survived with little hp left, it was amazing. I've also tanked orbitals. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 505	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:07:00 - [6] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Armor tanking is out of control. Bring back the old speed penalties. I could see 3/5/6 or 4/5/6 but i don't think you could go above those numbers without breaking plates. 3/5/7 would be fine. The old numbers were 3/5/10, iirc. THAT was broken. With the new proposed numbers, everyone will stack Enhanced plates even more now than they already do.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 1520	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:08:00 - [7] - Quote Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2374	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:13:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. I think that means the sheet can/will be updated shortly?
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3261	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:23:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. Still my favorite DEV! @Booby, 7 for the complex may be just enough to break it. And yes, you are right about the old plate numbers. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 509	Posted - 2014.05.23 14:39:00 - [10] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. Still my favorite DEV! @Booby, 7 for the complex may be just enough to break it. And yes, you are right about the old plate numbers. Can't wait to see the proposed numbers! I think 7% would be the sweet spot. They still provide a crazy amount of HP, but they actually slow you down to the point that maybe scouts won't be stacking them. For heavies, well, maybe they shouldn't have the HP of Zeus AND still be relatively quick, especially with their rotation speed. If you want to brick tank, you should be a brick, but the speed penalties need to keep heavies from becoming a cinder block. Heavies will still be able to tank as well, since Complex Ferro will take up no CPU and PG, and provide almost the same HP as Basic Armor Plates. They just won't be the 1500 eHP bullet hose walls of death anymore.

Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1540	Posted - 2014.05.23 15:07:00 - [11] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. Still my favorite DEV! @Booby, 7 for the complex may be just enough to break it. And yes, you are right about the old plate numbers. Can't wait to see the proposed numbers! I think 7% would be the sweet spot. They still provide a crazy amount of HP, but they actually slow you down to the point that maybe scouts won't be stacking them. For heavies, well, maybe they shouldn't have the HP of Zeus AND still be relatively quick, especially with their rotation speed. If you want to brick tank, you should be a brick, but the speed penalties need to keep heavies from becoming a cinder block. Heavies will still be able to tank as well, since Complex Ferro will take up no CPU and PG, and provide almost the same HP as Basic Armor Plates. They just won't be the 1500 eHP bullet hose walls of death anymore. Agreed. Give this man a strip of bacon. Make it two. With a side of gravy for dipping. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 MAG Vet ~ Raven R.I.P.~ Dust, R.I.P.~ MAG
Kain Spero 3568	Posted - 2014.05.23 15:12:00 - [12] - Quote THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Make it 3/4/5 or 3/4/6. It's a simple fix that will go a long way. Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running I don't mind the speed penalty going up but do wish they got rid of the jump penalty. There is nothing more infuriating that going up to a 12 inch ledge and not be able to jump high enough to clear because you happen to be platted out. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 512	Posted - 2014.05.23 15:34:00 - [13] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I don't mind the speed penalty going up but do wish they got rid of the jump penalty. There is nothing more infuriating that going up to a 12 inch ledge and not be able to jump high enough to clear because you happen to be platted out. Agreed. A small curb should be jump-able. Shoot, in my Min Commando suit, with no armor plates, I still can't jump over small obstacles or railings sometimes. I understand the concerns of heavies jumping. Heavies hopping over small curbs? Yes please. Heavies (not brick tanked) hopping over railings? Would be nice. Heavies hopping on crates and ledge to ledge? Not so much, haha.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 694	Posted - 2014.05.23 15:38:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, we meant to increase the speed penalty and I forgot to add it to the googledocs, please spread the word. Seriosuly ? So..... i'm going to be EVEN SLOWER on my Amarr Commando..... Okay....can i fit some wheels for my caravan please ?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 954	Posted - 2014.05.23 17:14:00 - [15] - Quote THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote: Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running Peculiar how common the Gal Sentinel is in PC. How do you explain this phenomena? Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3263	Posted - 2014.05.23 17:52:00 - [16] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote: Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running Peculiar how common the Gal Sentinel is in PC. How do you explain this phenomena? It's because being fully tanked as a heavy and sitting on a point isn't a bad thing. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1168	Posted - 2014.05.24 02:54:00 - [17] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote: Have you tried a proto gal sentinel you can barley move while running or jump a normal heavy with no amour plates would walk past you as you were running Peculiar how common the Gal Sentinel is in PC. How do you explain this phenomena? Because hmg doesnt need to be point blank like the shotty. And is more forgiving with misses. And because rep tools are more common now. Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 9895	Posted - 2014.05.24 11:13:00 - [18] - Quote I believe complex armor plates are already at the sweet spot when it comes to speed penalties. On my Gal Assault, I lose 0.4m/s per plate(!). On scouts that number is even bigger. Complex plates are rarely used anyway, don't increase their speed penalty. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3264	Posted - 2014.05.24 15:37:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I believe complex armor plates are already at the sweet spot when it comes to speed penalties. On my Gal Assault, I lose 0.4m/s per plate(!). On scouts that number is even bigger. Complex plates are rarely used anyway, don't increase their speed penalty. I can agree, nearly no one uses complex plates anyway. I run a single complex plate, a rep and a range amp for my GalAssault. 411 armour, 8.25 reps a second and around 22 meter scan radius. I think my db is around 36, not a bad suit... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 803	Posted - 2014.05.24 21:55:00 - [20] - Quote i dont think we need to force every player to be slower than a tree with armor. if this penalty is being increased gal and amarr shouldnt be forced to suffer from it. but honestly the armor penalty feels fine where it is. scouts can take the hit. so they will be the least likely to be brick tanked. but with armor tanked suits already being so slow. i dont see any reason from lowering their sprint speed from 4m/s to 1m/s. dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514. dont worry my logis. i will protect u. unless its a scout. itd be too late



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