We've got a new Dev who's willing and able to make the game we love more fun to play.
Why not stick around and see what happens?

We've got a new Dev who's willing and able to make the game we love more fun to play.
Why not stick around and see what happens?

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next gen.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next gen.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

There is such a thing called adult babies, ya know.

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next gen.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

When they provide me the Amarr HAV I have spent the past 12 months waiting for........

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next gen.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

We've got a new Dev who's willing and able to make the game we love more fun to play.
Why not stick around and see what happens?

we all have a choice to make now. dust is now more or less a finished product and we have to ask ourselves is it good enough? while it certainly falls short of expectations, what we have is what we have and we all need to decide if it's good enough to continue playing.

it's perfectly valid for any player to say that the product doesn't align with their idea of what it should have and that they can't justify further time investment in the game.

as we all come to the understanding that what the vast majority of us came for isn't going to be delivered there is going to be some gloom, some doom, some anger, and some tough good byes.

building a game around a meta game is a sword that cuts both ways.

We've got a new Dev who's willing and able to make the game we love more fun to play.
Why not stick around and see what happens?

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next-gen PC.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

There, fixed.

Also, who Rattati is exactly ? Coz i didnt waste any time reading anything about it

and your correction is far to premature to even consider.

Is it really ? AFAIK, and this aint no CPM remains of knowledge, we're going for PC. And "next gen" as in "next gen consoles" is really not even discussed. Or did i red the past dev intels wrong. I dont think so.

So, correction is fair enough.

Dunno; there are black knights whom feel its alright to go around attacking players who want to continue to play the game because from their perception they been betrayed in their minds.

I don't mind them being angry they have the right after all; not all of them can follow us to next gen.

I do mind the ones however is that think attacking other players and developers who are reaching out is an okay move.

lol, and then there's those who know things like a different platform of the game is being developed and even though the game was not under any NDA, the dust players were not informed at it start.

Do you think they money they made in that 7 months would have been forthcoming in that time or not, I say no, and to me this was simply a way to keep the money coming in, DECEIT.


SO MUCH FOR 7 YEARS, what a crock of ................

Not my position to promise anything. Promising never or will are two things I am simply not in that nature to do so. For me to say that Legion will never go to PS4 can turn out to be a flat out lie as saying legion will be going to ps4 will be just as much as of a lie. Both are lies and neither truths; safer to say things that are more encompassing and accommodating. The term next gen is most correct in this case for now all we know is only exclusive to the PC itself but the door will not remain shut.

Even then the possibility of Legion getting red lit is still there so that could just flush quite a few plans down the chute.

Cazderon brought up a good point in another thread as to why even Planetside 2 doesnt have the balls to cross play between their versions. Though i am sure if we could poke SOE brains a bit we can find out from them.

Digital Extremes' Warframe is attempting cross play their largest issue is synchronous versions. Currently the PS4 version is about a month to a week behind. However unlike PS2 the disparity between PC available controllers and expected PS4 controllers are nearly non issue in warframe where they would pose a significant issue in any real shooter such as BF, CoD, PS2, and Legion.

Also if you really want to know where your money is going by icelandic law there is that finances report floating about. Another sad truth of the industry that majority of a game's revenue never goes back into the game. Take your typical EA game; 12$ of every brand new 60$ EA game goes into games that never see launch day or press day even. EA cancels quite a few games they're not happy with or feel they will not meet ROI goals, large portion goes back into the advertising, finally the last bit goes into paying the original game development investment back and securing the next cash cow being crafted. SOE for example does NOT spend the entire subscription from ps2 back into planetside 2 instead it goes to other games and entirely unrelated developments usually. I mean where does the money for everquest next comes from? Its the nature of the business to keep funded regardless. Failure to go above break even means you're stuck with a dying mmo company on the simple grounds that you have no money to fund the next game.

Also if you really want a good backstab story; go read tiny co's apology for spellstorm's sudden cancellation of an event after the event was supposed to start that many people spent lots of pay to win money preparing ahead for; and all the extra new-ish things they promised to do has yet to materialize and this was some months ago. At least here we have a newly assigned developer he's highly involved with the community and the CPM to the point I have to get some real CPM work done tomorrow before he starts cracking the whip around the place.

I do think Dust 514 has succeeded one a very specific aspect that all other FPSs have failed in.

Dust 514 is currently the first and only FPS game in history to make the player feel like they are the actual character in an actual world, no other fps game has ever given us a taste of an immense world.

FPS cross gaming between PC and console isnt a matter of having the balls to do it. It's imo, just not possible to balance. That's a fact really hard to overcome. So if a single shard MMOFPS starts launches on PC, odds to see it someday go to console ar as thin as the remaining ozone layer. That's no troll nor anger or bitterness talking. That's a simple, reasonable and very likely scenario.

As for the "'where did all the money go ?" part, that's really not the players issue..... It's been said many times that the main blame players have regarding CCP is the long period of keeping them in the dark while still selling\promoting items that may or may not have been bought by said players if they had know about legion and near future. Transparency and all that.

The fact that money earned by a game isnt necessarily spend again on developing that same game is obvious and well known. The fact that Dust probably didnt generate enough money (no actual knowledge here, just sayin) to compensate the cost of past development, maintenance and\or future development is also known by most of the community as PCU was common knowledge for every player. And some never hesitated in buying stuff as a way to support CCP regarding those probable difficulties. Which makes the previous part even more painfull.

So no point in trying to compare this situation with another. Or finding worse somewhere as that doesnt change nor excuse, nor makes it any easier for anyone