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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:27:00 -
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I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates.
- Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to tranquillity.
- You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta.
These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8607
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:34:00 -
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An alternative would be to give us some unique dropsuits that only players who have been around in closed beta or maybe even open beta for Dust.
But honestly I'm more concerned about retaining my name. Maken Tosch has been my persona for a long time now and it would be a shame to see it become an openly-available name for someone else to take and misuse it however they like.
@CCP
Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15055
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:37:00 -
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Skin Weaves are supposed to be the beta only thing.
So how about something for dust 514 only guys?
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Ender Storm
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
149
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:49:00 -
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In blacklight betatesters have unique titles, also you have some special items you can attatch to your armour thats visible to other players, like badges.
Its kinda of neat.
In legion perhaps Dust players could have special patches to place on the suit. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
1499
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Posted - 2014.05.16 20:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Skin Weaves are supposed to be the beta only thing.
So how about something for dust 514 only guys? Dusty and gritty skins for dropsuits with the 514 carved/painted somewhere
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2041
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Posted - 2014.05.16 23:25:00 -
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-Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster
I like these ideas...
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
8624
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Posted - 2014.05.16 23:59:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:-Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster
I like these ideas... I like everything except the whole "keep our current forum avatar" thing, as they are quite bland and unappealing.
Instead of that, how about a ribbon that says "DUST" similar to how DEVs, CPMs, ISDs, and GMs all have their own tag?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
1987
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Posted - 2014.05.17 00:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:An alternative would be to give us some unique dropsuits that only players who have been around in closed beta or maybe even open beta for Dust.
But honestly I'm more concerned about retaining my name. Maken Tosch has been my persona for a long time now and it would be a shame to see it become an openly-available name for someone else to take and misuse it however they like.
@CCP
Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you. Yes, name is second only to the Booster SP that I paid cash for.
If I had to choose between the two of them though, I'd want my name to remain me. I've spent a good bit of time with this name, I'd like to keep it that way.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
461
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Posted - 2014.05.17 01:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote: I like everything except the whole "keep our current forum avatar" thing, as they are quite bland and unappealing.
Instead of that, how about a ribbon that says "DUST" similar to how DEVs, CPMs, ISDs, and GMs all have their own tag?
I'd prefer the tag to say "514" and then when the Legionnaires ask what 514 means we can be like "idk lol" because CCP is never going to tell us.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4765
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you.
I believe this is certainly the plan.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
783
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:55:00 -
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I'd really like some kind of recognition that I've been playing and giving CCP plenty of money since closed beta.
Of course, transfering my character and keeping all my SP would still be very nice.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet
PC > Console
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4765
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:58:00 -
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We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8612
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:59:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you.
I believe this is certainly the plan.
Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4769
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2584
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:35:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you.
I believe this is certainly the plan. Yes!
Also, are we getting anything special? Such as a unique skin BPO or something?
Is there at least some talk going on about it? Just tell me it's a topic of discussion over there. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8621
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Posted - 2014.05.17 05:40:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch.
One more request. Can I get a Miku Inspired dropsuit as recognition?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13451
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:44:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch. For a rainy day.
EDIT: But what about the forum likes?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4784
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Posted - 2014.05.17 07:00:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch. For a rainy day. EDIT: But what about the forum likes? I honestly don't know about forum likes yet. Depends on what form the Legion forums will take (if they're new, combined with EVE, etc). Lots of things have to happen before really tackle that beast.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4186
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Posted - 2014.05.17 07:08:00 -
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We have enough bad posters in the forum.
It would be horrible to invite more in just because some clown thinks he's going to get an achievement. |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5650
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Posted - 2014.05.17 07:18:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct?
Also, the idea of calling these guys "Mercenaries" is a little off-putting. I've never liked it. Mercenary is a profession, if anything. Capsuleers are unmistakable, we know exactly what they are, but when someone says something about "Mercenaries" there is some confusion there.
I like the idea of calling the ground guys Legionnaires, honestly. Only way that can be confused is with some rather die-hard Amarr guys, I suppose.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4800
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Posted - 2014.05.17 10:03:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5653
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Posted - 2014.05.17 10:41:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect
Well, if I may make a suggestion....
Legionnaire is still the best choice in a ten degrees of separate sort of way. Mordu's Legion, Eve: Legion, Mordu's Private Trials... Legionnaires... Technically that only applies to people who played through closed beta but, yanno - maybe another title for those that came after.
"Legionnaire" Aeon Amadi "First Gen" Aeon Amadi (Replication) "Second Gen" Aeon Amadi (Chromosome) "Third Gen" Aeon Amadi (Uprising)
Just a thought.
EDIT: Then again, "Replicator" Aeon Amadi, "Rebel" Aeon Amadi could work for the different builds... I dunno, just spit-balling here.
Useful Links
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1696
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Posted - 2014.05.17 12:53:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect Could I request that those of us in the Barber shop get the title "Bastard"?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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JonnyAugust
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
365
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Posted - 2014.05.17 13:47:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
I bet you could squeeze that into the lore someway. DUST mercs are the original trials of thew new merc tech and Legion is the full industrialization and galactic implementation of the tech. Similar to the first gen of pilots to be called Valkyrie. |
TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3388
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Posted - 2014.05.17 14:03:00 -
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Bpos transferred as skins!.
That is all.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Appia Nappia
725
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Posted - 2014.05.17 15:28:00 -
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Spademan wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect Could I request that those of us in the Barber shop get the title "Bastard"?
Although I find this humorous, it would completely ruin my naming convention. "Nothi" Appia Vibbia would be closer but still off. I'm the kind of player that chooses titles for my characters that suit them. Even in games where titles give certain benefits. The title needs to fit, not just the most powerful one.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
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RECON BY FIRE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
397
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Posted - 2014.05.17 22:16:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect Well, if I may make a suggestion.... Legionnaire is still the best choice in a ten degrees of separate sort of way. Mordu's Legion, Eve: Legion, Mordu's Private Trials... Legionnaires... Technically that only applies to people who played through closed beta but, yanno - maybe another title for those that came after. "Legionnaire" Aeon Amadi "First Gen" Aeon Amadi (Replication) "Second Gen" Aeon Amadi (Chromosome) "Third Gen" Aeon Amadi (Uprising) Just a thought. EDIT: Then again, "Replicator" Aeon Amadi, "Rebel" Aeon Amadi could work for the different builds... I dunno, just spit-balling here.
What about Codex bro? Just **** Codex eh?
Stuff....?
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2314
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Posted - 2014.05.17 22:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Also, the idea of calling these guys "Mercenaries" is a little off-putting. I've never liked it. Mercenary is a profession, if anything. Capsuleers are unmistakable, we know exactly what they are, but when someone says something about "Mercenaries" there is some confusion there. I like the idea of calling the ground guys Legionnaires, honestly. Only way that can be confused is with some rather die-hard Amarr guys, I suppose.
Or people who work for the Legion, Mordu's Legion. Something special needs to be taken that has nothing to do with the races tbh......
I'd say we go for a god's name (or a group that has to do with a god), or a name describing how our clones work (as that's how EVE and Valkyrie's immortals were named).
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2314
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Posted - 2014.05.17 22:33:00 -
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Anyways, why don't we just get to make ourselves one, as well as get a "514" or "We were there" title? Also, We get a free skin that can be used on any suit (please make the suits manufactured, not straight BPO's by the way, as that's pretty silly tbh) that has 514 written all over it. Lastly, I want black eyes and skin (referencing the sleeper tech that is in us).
As for my custom title, it would be the "Fish god of fishes" Godin The Killer
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Bax Zanith
145
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Posted - 2014.05.17 23:26:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Also, the idea of calling these guys "Mercenaries" is a little off-putting. I've never liked it. Mercenary is a profession, if anything. Capsuleers are unmistakable, we know exactly what they are, but when someone says something about "Mercenaries" there is some confusion there. I like the idea of calling the ground guys Legionnaires, honestly. Only way that can be confused is with some rather die-hard Amarr guys, I suppose. Or people who work for the Legion, Mordu's Legion. Something special needs to be taken that has nothing to do with the races tbh...... I'd say we go for a god's name (or a group that has to do with a god), or a name describing how our clones work (as that's how EVE and Valkyrie's immortals were named). How are clones work, a? First thing that comes to mind is the cylons from Battle Star Golactica.
They didn't die from the cold without
They died from the cold within.
- James Patrick Kinney
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2315
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:05:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Also, the idea of calling these guys "Mercenaries" is a little off-putting. I've never liked it. Mercenary is a profession, if anything. Capsuleers are unmistakable, we know exactly what they are, but when someone says something about "Mercenaries" there is some confusion there. I like the idea of calling the ground guys Legionnaires, honestly. Only way that can be confused is with some rather die-hard Amarr guys, I suppose. Or people who work for the Legion, Mordu's Legion. Something special needs to be taken that has nothing to do with the races tbh...... I'd say we go for a god's name (or a group that has to do with a god), or a name describing how our clones work (as that's how EVE and Valkyrie's immortals were named). How our clones work, a? First thing that comes to mind is the cylons from Battle Star Golactica.
lolno.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3388
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:12:00 -
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I like AtiimGÇÖs idea of having a colored tag that says DUST on our avatar on the forums. Just like the tag the DevGÇÖs have, except maybe make it green and replace GÇ£DEVGÇ¥ with GÇ£514GÇ¥.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi
Myrmidon Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:13:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:-Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster
I like these ideas...
I really like the idea of our own starter corp. |
Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi
Myrmidon Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:25:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. |
Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2316
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:34:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:-Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster
I like these ideas...
I'd rather us have custom faces like EVE.......
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5665
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Posted - 2014.05.18 01:04:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect Well, if I may make a suggestion.... Legionnaire is still the best choice in a ten degrees of separate sort of way. Mordu's Legion, Eve: Legion, Mordu's Private Trials... Legionnaires... Technically that only applies to people who played through closed beta but, yanno - maybe another title for those that came after. "Legionnaire" Aeon Amadi "First Gen" Aeon Amadi (Replication) "Second Gen" Aeon Amadi (Chromosome) "Third Gen" Aeon Amadi (Uprising) Just a thought. EDIT: Then again, "Replicator" Aeon Amadi, "Rebel" Aeon Amadi could work for the different builds... I dunno, just spit-balling here. What about Codex bro? Just **** Codex eh?
If that's sarcasm, lol.
If you're being serious, holy **** calm down dude I can't remember every single build over the past two years.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2316
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Posted - 2014.05.18 01:36:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: If that's sarcasm, lol.
If you're being serious, holy **** calm down dude I can't remember every single build over the past two years.
Na, you missed codex, so therefore you said **** Codex. them some fighting words, so we gonna have to fight about this. I expect to see your skinny ass in the bar in 5 minutes or I'm flipping ****
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4835
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Posted - 2014.05.18 02:35:00 -
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Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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DaReaperPW
Net 7 The Last Brigade
25
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Posted - 2014.05.18 04:07:00 -
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I personally have one itty bitty issue.
IF eve unification happens, i have an Eve char that is 10 years old, DaReaper, so i would prolly just use that name in legion.. but if DaReaperPW is brought over... I'd love a way to combine the two, that would be beneficial.
But its not a big deal, though would be slightly inconvenient if one universe, one account, one log in (Eve unification) happens |
Buwaro Draemon
Science For Death Final Resolution.
170
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Posted - 2014.05.18 04:42:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
We should also get special weapons and suits with the 'Veteran' on it.
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
793
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Posted - 2014.05.18 06:00:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote: We should also get special weapons and suits with the 'Veteran' on it.
I think a cooler thing would be special effects for veterans.
I would love a gold inertial dampener FX to go with my gold pod in Eve.
Dust/Eve transfers
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Top Men.
2264
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Posted - 2014.05.18 06:08:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates.
- Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility.
- You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta.
These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful.
Not a bad idea... I would also like the MAG related dropsuits to continue, but not as a BPO. Thats just me
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I would also like a unique title that is seen in your name.
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead. Please make it an in-game thing. Most players of any game don't visit the forums. I want someone to see a former Dust player and recognize them as veteran. It would also lead to interesting dynamics in the sandbox. Two Dusters might randomly meet and decide to harrass non-veterans for ***** and giggles. |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.18 14:47:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates.
- Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility.
- You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta.
These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful. Not a bad idea... I would also like the MAG related dropsuits to continue, but not as a BPO. Thats just me R.I.P Mag
They could still exist as BPO, just for manufacturing purposes (since the small number of people is going over, then those suits will dwindle in numbers, so overall there will be a small supply of them).
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:02:00 -
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In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP.
Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust
We deserve them.
Sorry for bad English =)
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It would be nice if you had a Beta test group of only Dust players, or have the majority of the Beta invites go to dust players. Like many players, I always liked the concept and idea of Dust, and I understand why you are bring it back to PC. I really just want to be included on the next step forward with the series. You won't get everyone, as you can already tell from other angry forums, but you would get enough of us to really help with the Dev. process. |
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i belive i read some where that all dust 514 players would get legion invites which tbh is a smart move we already know how dust works :D so we can get to testing a lot faster.
i would love some kind of showoff item like a shiny red and gold dropsuit that you see and your like dam that guy is a oldschool badass, just somthing to really make us stand out in the warbarge, once it hits PC are measly number will be dwarfed by the others so we will become a rare collectors item to EvE players :P yes you read that right
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DaReaperPW wrote:I personally have one itty bitty issue.
IF eve unification happens, i have an Eve char that is 10 years old, DaReaper, so i would prolly just use that name in legion.. but if DaReaperPW is brought over... I'd love a way to combine the two, that would be beneficial.
But its not a big deal, though would be slightly inconvenient if one universe, one account, one log in (Eve unification) happens
I would be in a similar situation with my main on DUST and my old eve characters. Similar names, would be cool to merge but not too fussed to be honest. |
ANON Cerberus
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i belive i read some where that all dust 514 players would get legion invites which tbh is a smart move we already know how dust works :D so we can get to testing a lot faster.
i would love some kind of showoff item like a shiny red and gold dropsuit that you see and your like dam that guy is a oldschool badass, just somthing to really make us stand out in the warbarge, once it hits PC are measly number will be dwarfed by the others so we will become a rare collectors item to EvE players :P yes you read that right
This is very EVE like in nature.
CCP a special suit for old DUST veterans on Legion would be awesome indeed.
I am also curious what is going to happen to our current blueprint suits, weapons and items..? |
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Cross Atu
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:40:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates.
- Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility.
- You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta.
These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful. These are good ideas, I have to jump in here and take it a step further however.
While I want my characters history, name, creation, etc preserved and think that all current Dust players at the time of Legion launch deserve to have character preservation, we are not truly getting to keep our characters unless we can also transfer persistent assets of substance.
These persistent tangible assets are the meat and bones of what we've worked so hard on all these months (or years, depending). Things like
- Skill Points
- BPOs
- ISK
- Gear
- Character stats
The above is listed in descending order, I'll elaborate;
Skill Points - This is the most substantial core of any character, it most directly represents our time invested, our success (or failure, you earn SP for both ) on the field, and our overall dedication to the game over the long haul. Regardless of how the progression system for Legion is rolled out this time spent by Dust mercs now and in the past must be recognized in a meaningful mechanical way or the promise of persistence, and thus faith with the community, has been broken.
BPOs - These should be even easier to keep in Legion, all Dropsuits are already slated to be BPOs. It is a given that many specific stats might change between now and Legion launch but all current BPOs should be assets migrated into Legion as recognition of those who supported Dust in its infancy, spent IRL funds on it, recruited new players to the game (even in the face of the still unfixed recruiting system), played the events, and bought the EVE Collectors Edition which is still on sale as of this week.
ISK - Market balance may change, so wallets may be scaled, but something for all the ISK earned in Dust should be given a serious look in migration to Legion. Even if all Dust ISK were transferred it would still be only a drop in the bucket compared to the ISK of EVE, something to consider in the face of a truly integrated economy.
Gear - Easy, just like the BPOs. Yes stats will change, this is a given but even if the names change and Pro becomes "rare" etc there are clear equivalents (and with the sale of things like the EVE Collectors Edition there should be equivalents maintained) which can be provided in the assets of the transferred characters. Of course they'll still have to invest their SP to use such things within the Legion framework but that's always been the way and in its own right helps to sustain persistence.
[ Stats - I've long said some of our stats are broken, as such this only makes the end of my list but I know it's an issue some players care about so it bears mentioning. Any stats that are going to be tracked within Legion should be transferred with the mercs incoming from Dust 514.
Meaningful Persistence - This is fundamental to the nature of the game Dust was presented to be, the nature of the New Eden sandbox, and to demonstrating a meaningful respect for the player base. CCP, the sooner you can step forward to remove that nagging fear of persistence in name only, the sooner we as a community can once again move on with confidence that we're playing a game where our choices matter, and after all that's why we're here in New Eden.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.05.20 16:23:00 -
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Skill Points: As long as they continue to have passive skill point gain over time, there is a way to transfer skill points fairly even if they dramatically change the value of a skill point. It is called GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥.
Basically GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥ means calculating the time it would have taken you to earn your current total skill points in DUST 514 if your account had not been played. So, if you played your account, or used boosters, or both, your Equivalent Passive Time would be quite a bit longer than the actual age of your account. The difference between the age of your account, and your Equivalent Passive Time, represents the additional impact of skill points earned in matches and from boosters.
Then you take your Equivalent Passive Time from DUST 514, and multiply it by the passive skill point accrual rate in Legion, and it will give you a quantity of skill points that is equivalent in value to the skill points you have in DUST 514.
BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.)
Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second.
ISK: Totally agree. ISK should be transferred 1:1. If there is inflation, I am fine with that.
Gear: All gear that exists in Legion should be transferred. Gear that does not exist in Legion should be converted to ISK at DUST 514 value and transfer as ISK. (There is gear that you canGÇÖt get in DUST anymore, that some people still have in their inventories.)
Character stats: I sort of think it might be better not to transfer stats. My main reason for this is that I want them to change the definition of a kill/death to correspond to the loss of a clone, so if you get revived it does not count as a death for you or a kill for the guy that dropped you. If this change is implemented it will make DUST Kill/Death stats invalid. Maybe the DUST states could be saved on a separate archival record, rather than trying to integrate the old stats with the new Legion stats.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:52:00 -
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I would like to have the original creation date of my first Dust character back. I've been "wiped" twice now. My original character was created on May 18, 2012. It was wiped in July or August of that year year when there was a full reset, and again when the open beta came about. And I agree that this is a major point of pride and I would love to have this date back. |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:21:00 -
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Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all.
That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic.
Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first".
If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs.
That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:36:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all.
That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic.
Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first".
If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs.
That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon.
I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right?
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Lynn Beck
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:40:00 -
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It should show up in game, something like a leather jacket we wear in station that reads '514' or on our dropsuits.
It should also show up in the Show Info tab on us, as 'We were there' or something.
Our BPO's should all get unique skins- thinks like Exiles should get dark blue paint, while 'Recruit' gear gets something connotating 'fresh from the boat' like a green stripe.
We should get unique BPO's specifically for our involvement in DUST.
Also, this would be nice, an invite to Legion Beta/Alpha BEFORE the Eve people get in. It's our beta testing we did these past years.
As for how the BPO weapons work? Make them applyable skins, that ad the prefix to the weapon- like an 'Exile Plasma Rifle or a 'Staff Recruiter Sniper Rifle' which would still cost the same as a normal gun, maybe even more(like 300 isk) to apply the skin.
Also- Staff Recruiter weapons deserve SHINING PLATINUM paint.
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Talos Alomar
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:54:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right?
As long as I get my fancy named guns I'm cool with anything.
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Miokai Zahou
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Posted - 2014.05.21 02:09:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
He'll yeah i have two dust mercs ready for the transfer!
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Posted - 2014.05.21 02:36:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease.
Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch.
emm kay!
however, I would like to have the folloing for dust 514 players:
- Specialized minmatar standard frame (BPO). - has same stats as standard medium frame. (not affected by racial skills) - big red letters carved into it that say '514' - Numbers Glow when they get hit ( eventually they burst upon death) - Upon death, the mercanary (still standing) turns into dust and the dust slowly floats away (angelically).
Gives us recognition, while keeping it simple and not flashy.
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Spectral Clone
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:16:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST.
Cool cool!
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:26:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all.
That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic.
Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first".
If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs.
That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? I would love to be able to make weapons using a BPO + Scavenged parts.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:30:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Also, this would be nice, an invite to Legion Beta/Alpha BEFORE the Eve people get in. It's our beta testing we did these past years. I think this would definitely be the right move, both from a public relations standpoint, and because we are the most qualified to test the new game.
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Cross Atu
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Posted - 2014.05.22 17:34:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Skill Points: As long as they continue to have passive skill point gain over time, there is a way to transfer skill points fairly even if they dramatically change the value of a skill point. It is called GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥. Basically GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥ means calculating the time it would have taken you to earn your current total skill points in DUST 514 if your account had not been played. So, if you played your account, or used boosters, or both, your Equivalent Passive Time would be quite a bit longer than the actual age of your account. The difference between the age of your account, and your Equivalent Passive Time, represents the additional impact of skill points earned in matches and from boosters. Then you take your Equivalent Passive Time from DUST 514, and multiply it by the passive skill point accrual rate in Legion, and it will give you a quantity of skill points that is equivalent in value to the skill points you have in DUST 514. Agreed, even if Legion ends up with no passive SP system (just for the sake of discussion) this method still holds true because I've no doubt CCP will be looking at numbers to assess an average weekly gain, even prior to launch and implementing earnings rates accordingly.
Quote:BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.)
Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects.
Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust.
Quote: ISK: Totally agree. ISK should be transferred 1:1. If there is inflation, I am fine with that.
Gear: All gear that exists in Legion should be transferred. Gear that does not exist in Legion should be converted to ISK at DUST 514 value and transfer as ISK. (There is gear that you canGÇÖt get in DUST anymore, that some people still have in their inventories.)
Agreed on all counts.
Quote:Character stats: I sort of think it might be better not to transfer stats. My main reason for this is that I want them to change the definition of a kill/death to correspond to the loss of a clone, so if you get revived it does not count as a death for you or a kill for the guy that dropped you. If this change is implemented it will make DUST Kill/Death stats invalid. Maybe the DUST states could be saved on a separate archival record, rather than trying to integrate the old stats with the new Legion stats. I agree on stats and would simply say that any stat which does not carry the same definition as is currently used would be considered a new stat regardless of the name. (KDR has needed an overhaul of a long time and hopefully that will be coming to Legion, but if it doesn't I don't see why it shouldn't be tracked as a persistent element from Dust, even if it is a very poor stat to measure things within the context it is presently used.)
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Cross Atu
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Posted - 2014.05.22 17:43:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all.
That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic.
Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first".
If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs.
That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? I would love to be able to make weapons using a BPO + Scavenged parts. Assuming manufacturing comes to Legion (which I am not at all opposed to) the change of current Dust style BPOs into something more akin to EVE:O style BPOs would, in my view, not be problematic.
I would say that a bit of a bonus to things like effecincy on them derived from the original purchase date would not be amiss as a nod to all the players who supported Dust 514 even during closed beta when all gains from those BPOs were wiped with every new build, but even this courtesy is not strictly required per se.
All of this is of course assuming that Legion chooses to handle all equivalent assets in this manner, otherwise it becomes game creep and/or runs into the same breach of trust problem as outright removal of assets due to the rebranding of the Dust-Legion franchise/game.
Bottom line is that, especially within a F2P micro-transaction game maintaining the long term fidelity of value for player purchases is fundamental to sustaining player trust and by extension the long term viability and health of the game.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.05.22 18:03:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.)
Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects. Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust. I believe in this case that supporting the community trumps eradicating a mild ISK advantage, both within light of New Eden precedent via EVE:O and to maintain persistence between Dust 514 and Project Legion. Without sound/renewed player trust the F2P micro-transaction method will be in a bad spot.
By broken mechanic I was referring to the uproar over CCP removing BPOGÇÖs for stuff that was no longer in the game. If CCP feels that a module or other item does not work the way it was intended, they should have the right to remove that item from the game to make the game better. I donGÇÖt agree with CCP being restricted in what they can remove from the game just because there was a BPO for that item.
When CCP removed items from DUST and some players had BPOGÇÖs for those items, they were given the AUR value of the BPO back. I thought that was fair. But a lot of people freaked out over it. Maybe they should have just been allowed to keep the BPOGÇÖs that could not be fitted to a suit or serve any other useful purpose, because they seemed quite attached to them. Maybe if there was a player market those things might have some value to collectors.
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Cross Atu
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Posted - 2014.05.22 18:31:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.)
Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects. Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust. I believe in this case that supporting the community trumps eradicating a mild ISK advantage, both within light of New Eden precedent via EVE:O and to maintain persistence between Dust 514 and Project Legion. Without sound/renewed player trust the F2P micro-transaction method will be in a bad spot. By broken mechanic I was referring to the uproar over CCP removing BPOGÇÖs for stuff that was no longer in the game. If CCP feels that a module or other item does not work the way it was intended, they should have the right to remove that item from the game to make the game better. I donGÇÖt agree with CCP being restricted in what they can remove from the game just because there was a BPO for that item. When CCP removed items from DUST and some players had BPOGÇÖs for those items, they were given the AUR value of the BPO back. I thought that was fair. But a lot of people freaked out over it. Maybe they should have just been allowed to keep the BPOGÇÖs that could not be fitted to a suit or serve any other useful purpose, because they seemed quite attached to them. Maybe if there was a player market those things might have some value to collectors. Understood and thank you for the clarifications.
I do feel that the case of character transfer from D514 to Legion is a bit different. Player market in that case would have been a possible alleviation, as would "transmutation" rather than removal (i.e. conversion of the BPO into a copy of the nearest equivalent BPO). To be honest, while in retrospect is worth considering I usually lean towards focusing my feedback on the situation moving forward. In this case I don't expect BPOs from Dust to be moved to Legion with their identical stats, names, and appearances. However providing players with BPOs of the nearest Legion equivalent in all cases (be that BPOs in the current Dust sense or in a more EVE:O sense) is on balance the most reasonable choice.
In essence CCP must take care, for while they should not be bound to maintain broken mechanics they need to maintain the fidelity of persistence within the sandbox and within their micro-transaction offerings. Adapt or die only works when adaptation is derived from player choice not a sort of mechanical or iterative game of chance.
Cheers, Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
156
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:10:00 -
[67] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead.
Man, that last sentence sounds like it was tacked on the end
[Saberwing though bubble]
There.... theres something off about my comments. Talking about content, check. Preliminary, check.... CRAP! This is too optimistic! I need to remind them Legion isn't a project yet even though I'm already talking about work that isn't scheduled for several months. I KNOW!!! Disclaimer that Legion isn't green lit yet
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JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
154
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Posted - 2014.05.23 02:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Skin Weaves are supposed to be the beta only thing.
So how about something for dust 514 only guys?
It took me 1 year to noticed that I had CaldaI and Minmatar skineweave dropsuits >_>... in my Inventory.
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2048
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:34:00 -
[69] - Quote
John Psi wrote:In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP.
Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust
We deserve them. A special item in our inventory?
"Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet.
"Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon)
"Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits.
"Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?)
Vanity inventory items FTWs!
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
461
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Posted - 2014.05.23 10:39:00 -
[70] - Quote
Can't we get sets of "muder flaylocks", "Jihad Jeeps", "Sniper forge guns", "invincible triple repper Madrugar", "pointless militia swarmer", "700 ehp dampened scout suit", "precision HMG" and other highly valuable items that show our experience with the various versions and bugs of Dust? |
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Kain Spero
3577
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3430
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion.
Im now hypothetically a hypothetical sad panda, maybe.
Or just high.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:28:00 -
[73] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Dusters? Who the hell says "Dusters"? The word to use is "Dustbunnies". |
TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3430
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:30:00 -
[74] - Quote
Sole Fenychs wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Dusters? Who the hell says "Dusters"? The word to use is "Dustbunnies".
I prefer ground dwelling scum but aye.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3473
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:27:00 -
[75] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. You mean like this?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2002
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Posted - 2014.05.24 00:24:00 -
[76] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:John Psi wrote:In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP.
Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust
We deserve them. A special item in our inventory? "Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet. "Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon) "Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits. "Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?) Vanity inventory items FTWs! WTB Bag of Dead Bunnies.
Minmatar Weapons Specialist
Explosives Connoisseur
Logi for Hire
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2407
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Posted - 2014.05.24 01:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:John Psi wrote:In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP.
Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust
We deserve them. A special item in our inventory? "Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet. "Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon) "Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits. "Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?) Vanity inventory items FTWs! WTB Bag of Dead Bunnies.
That'll be 1 mil ISK sir.
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2014.05.25 20:00:00 -
[78] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. What about dust ps4 players you gonna leave us in the dark ill play Valkyrie but not much i want a fps to do so, if not planetside 2 will have a good dust 514 vet to run with them |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8702
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Posted - 2014.05.25 21:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. What about dust ps4 players you gonna leave us in the dark ill play Valkyrie but not much i want a fps to do so, if not planetside 2 will have a good dust 514 vet to run with them
From what I heard, PS2 is not in a very good condition right now.
Performance issues Lack of meaningful content Updates taking too long New player experience is lacking completely
Sound familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh_nBeP80ac&list=PLk8RCHiu-6X3eFAt--yfMwBlPt8yswfW5&feature=share&index=6
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2600
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Posted - 2014.05.26 05:30:00 -
[80] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you.
I believe this is certainly the plan.
Honestly CCP, my name is the only thing I want to keep within the EVE universe, I could care less about the SP or the ISK if I can keep my name.
Your comment has given me some interest in Legion only and if only it gets ported over to the PS4.
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2144
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:12:00 -
[81] - Quote
What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled?
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8709
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:34:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cross Atu wrote:What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled?
I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10299
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Posted - 2014.05.26 21:11:00 -
[83] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Cross Atu wrote:What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it.
Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words.
Markdown:
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.05.27 08:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
Only thing I care about keeping in this game is:
MY NAME MY Lifetime SP MY Officer gear and BPOs MY ISK.
Spent time since open beta working to get everything that I've put real life time and enjoyment into. For a game that's suppose to be a 10 year plan like EVE, that should be the only thing that matters. THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.
TRUE LOGi
|Director of Fatal Absolution & LOD|
|Ringer Hub Creator|
Skype: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3495
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Posted - 2014.05.27 12:08:00 -
[85] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cross Atu wrote:What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words. There are LP in both DUST and EVE. There will likely be LP in Legion. I donGÇÖt see any reason why it would not be transferred. As with SP, the LP may have to be run through a formula to make a proportional conversion, if the value of LP is different in Legion, but it should transfer and be worth around the same amount.
As fare as the conversion formula I would be inclined to use the cost of a racial Infantry Rifle as the constant in the conversion formula. Calculate how many Assault Rifles you can purchase with your Gallente LP, then calculate how much LP it would take to get the same number of Plasma Rifles in Legion. Then give you that amount of LP. Same for your Amarr LP using Scrambler Rifles.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10327
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:47:00 -
[86] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:True Adamance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cross Atu wrote:What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words. There are LP in both DUST and EVE. There will likely be LP in Legion. I donGÇÖt see any reason why it would not be transferred. As with SP, the LP may have to be run through a formula to make a proportional conversion, if the value of LP is different in Legion, but it should transfer and be worth around the same amount. As fare as the conversion formula I would be inclined to use the cost of a racial Infantry Rifle as the constant in the conversion formula. Calculate how many Assault Rifles you can purchase with your Gallente LP, then calculate how much LP it would take to get the same number of Plasma Rifles in Legion. Then give you that amount of LP. Same for your Amarr LP using Scrambler Rifles.
Reassuring somewhat. Its possibly the only value besides SP I worry about.
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA
The DOT MAFIA
5
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Posted - 2014.05.28 22:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
CCP:
The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO! |
tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:CCP:
The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO! there are no proto gear in legion, only common, uncommon and rare tiers of gear, so those two should be in the RARE tier then.
let us transfer our BPOs,stats,gear,ISK and SP to legion pl0x!
Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya.
AMARRIAN4LYFE
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2052
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Posted - 2014.05.31 19:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
HA!
I have it. If we are going to get the WiS from EVE (along with the screen we saw in the keynote) then have the walls have 514 Painted in Red Very sloppily (or, give the option to change it between Sloppy and Neat and Amarrian).
Never forget...
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2491
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Posted - 2014.05.31 20:36:00 -
[90] - Quote
tander09 wrote:The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:CCP:
The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO! there are no proto gear in legion, only common, uncommon and rare tiers of gear, so those two should be in the RARE tier then.
It's just renamed STD ADV and PROTO.................
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3556
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Posted - 2014.06.01 00:26:00 -
[91] - Quote
I think Rare are Officer grade weapons actually.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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FEAST FOR crows
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.06.01 02:51:00 -
[92] - Quote
I think a cool idea would be that all Dust players get a slightly battered and scratched BPO suit based on their race that has 514 somewhere on it to show that we are battle tested.
What do we say to Death?
Not today.
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2014.06.01 07:34:00 -
[93] - Quote
FEAST FOR crows wrote:I think a cool idea would be that all Dust players get a slightly battered and scratched BPO suit based on their race that has 514 somewhere on it to show that we are battle tested. does it have the options for suits goes from light frame to heavy frame grade?
let us transfer our BPOs,stats,gear,ISK and SP to legion pl0x!
Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya.
AMARRIAN4LYFE
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FEAST FOR crows
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:11:00 -
[94] - Quote
tander09 wrote:FEAST FOR crows wrote:I think a cool idea would be that all Dust players get a slightly battered and scratched BPO suit based on their race that has 514 somewhere on it to show that we are battle tested. does it have the options for suits goes from light frame to heavy frame grade? that would be ideal
What do we say to Death?
Not today.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.06.01 15:51:00 -
[95] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:An alternative would be to give us some unique dropsuits that only players who have been around in closed beta or maybe even open beta for Dust.
But honestly I'm more concerned about retaining my name. Maken Tosch has been my persona for a long time now and it would be a shame to see it become an openly-available name for someone else to take and misuse it however they like.
@CCP
Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you. Yes, name is second only to the Booster SP that I paid cash for. If I had to choose between the two of them though, I'd want my name to remain me. I've spent a good bit of time with this name, I'd like to keep it that way.
god you make it to easy for them.... rather have a free name over your financial investment of sp from boosters.... ridiculous
and why the hell shouldn't we have both our names and our investment? there is no reason why we shouldn't....
cosmetic stuff is fine, but I'd rather have what I paid for, especially if I'm to trust ccp with anymore of my money ever again. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2007
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
Seymour KrelbornX wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:An alternative would be to give us some unique dropsuits that only players who have been around in closed beta or maybe even open beta for Dust.
But honestly I'm more concerned about retaining my name. Maken Tosch has been my persona for a long time now and it would be a shame to see it become an openly-available name for someone else to take and misuse it however they like.
@CCP
Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you. Yes, name is second only to the Booster SP that I paid cash for. If I had to choose between the two of them though, I'd want my name to remain me. I've spent a good bit of time with this name, I'd like to keep it that way. god you make it to easy for them.... rather have a free name over your financial investment of sp from boosters.... ridiculous and why the hell shouldn't we have both our names and our investment? there is no reason why we shouldn't.... cosmetic stuff is fine, but I'd rather have what I paid for, especially if I'm to trust ccp with anymore of my money ever again. Hey Judge Judy,
Where did I say that CCP would see one red cent from me if I didn't get my Booster SP?
I didn't.
Get the twist out of your panties.
Minmatar Weapons Specialist
Explosives Connoisseur
Logi for Hire
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:53:00 -
[97] - Quote
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote:Only thing I care about keeping in this game is: MY NAME MY Lifetime SP MY Officer gear and BPOs MY ISK.Spent time since open beta working to get everything that I've put real life time and enjoyment into. For a game that's suppose to be a 10 year plan like EVE, that should be the only thing that matters. THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.
100% agree.... we built legion and these things are our pay for that and for having our dream of dust crushed.... if ccp cant honor those of us who have bought their products and spent our time testing their game, then they don't deserve us. |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2227
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Posted - 2014.06.03 18:07:00 -
[98] - Quote
I know it's still early in the process, so it may be a bit, but I'd love to get confirmation from CCP that they're looking into transferring our assets as well as our SP, AUR, ISK, and histories.
If asset transfer is not on the table then it would be good to get word on how we'll be compensated for all of the gear (and AUR gear, and BPOs) that we possess.
Cheers, Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2372
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Posted - 2014.06.16 14:08:00 -
[99] - Quote
Any word on the further progress of working out a transfer system CCP?
Any areas that we as a community could perhaps contribute to or engage with?
(Note: these are each separate questions, I'd love updates even if there's nothing as yet ready for community feedback)
Cheers, Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
255
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Posted - 2014.06.16 18:45:00 -
[100] - Quote
I have decided to give this a try. I cannot knock it if I have not tried it out so I guess I will see you guys in Legion?
why ccp?
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Skylight Atoma
The Phoenix Federation Dark Taboo
10
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Posted - 2014.06.17 04:47:00 -
[101] - Quote
I would also like to have the option of having a name change for the transfer. Not that I don't like my name, but I may wish to change it for Legion. |
tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2014.06.17 08:53:00 -
[102] - Quote
Skylight Atoma wrote:I would also like to have the option of having a name change for the transfer. Not that I don't like my name, but I may wish to change it for Legion. yes!
new game= new name
let us transfer our BPOs,stats,gear,ISK and SP to legion pl0x!
Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya.
AMARRIAN4LYFE
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Chimera Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
4
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Posted - 2014.06.19 14:39:00 -
[103] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:Skill Points: As long as they continue to have passive skill point gain over time, there is a way to transfer skill points fairly even if they dramatically change the value of a skill point. It is called GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥. Skill point transfer really is crucial - right after gameplay, it's the carrot that keeps players going, and it reflects a huge amount of effort. |
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