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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3430	Posted - 2014.05.21 14:26:00 - [61] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all. That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic. Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first". If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs. That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? I would love to be able to make weapons using a BPO + Scavenged parts. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3430	Posted - 2014.05.21 14:30:00 - [62] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Also, this would be nice, an invite to Legion Beta/Alpha BEFORE the Eve people get in. It's our beta testing we did these past years. I think this would definitely be the right move, both from a public relations standpoint, and because we are the most qualified to test the new game. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2114	Posted - 2014.05.22 17:34:00 - [63] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Stuff Skill Points: As long as they continue to have passive skill point gain over time, there is a way to transfer skill points fairly even if they dramatically change the value of a skill point. It is called GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥. Basically GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥ means calculating the time it would have taken you to earn your current total skill points in DUST 514 if your account had not been played. So, if you played your account, or used boosters, or both, your Equivalent Passive Time would be quite a bit longer than the actual age of your account. The difference between the age of your account, and your Equivalent Passive Time, represents the additional impact of skill points earned in matches and from boosters. Then you take your Equivalent Passive Time from DUST 514, and multiply it by the passive skill point accrual rate in Legion, and it will give you a quantity of skill points that is equivalent in value to the skill points you have in DUST 514. Agreed, even if Legion ends up with no passive SP system (just for the sake of discussion) this method still holds true because I've no doubt CCP will be looking at numbers to assess an average weekly gain, even prior to launch and implementing earnings rates accordingly. Quote: BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.) Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects. Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust. Quote: ISK: Totally agree. ISK should be transferred 1:1. If there is inflation, I am fine with that. Gear: All gear that exists in Legion should be transferred. Gear that does not exist in Legion should be converted to ISK at DUST 514 value and transfer as ISK. (There is gear that you canGÇÖt get in DUST anymore, that some people still have in their inventories.) Agreed on all counts. Quote: Character stats: I sort of think it might be better not to transfer stats. My main reason for this is that I want them to change the definition of a kill/death to correspond to the loss of a clone, so if you get revived it does not count as a death for you or a kill for the guy that dropped you. If this change is implemented it will make DUST Kill/Death stats invalid. Maybe the DUST states could be saved on a separate archival record, rather than trying to integrate the old stats with the new Legion stats. I agree on stats and would simply say that any stat which does not carry the same definition as is currently used would be considered a new stat regardless of the name. (KDR has needed an overhaul of a long time and hopefully that will be coming to Legion, but if it doesn't I don't see why it shouldn't be tracked as a persistent element from Dust, even if it is a very poor stat to measure things within the context it is presently used.) Cheers, Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2115	Posted - 2014.05.22 17:43:00 - [64] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all. That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic. Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first". If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs. That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? I would love to be able to make weapons using a BPO + Scavenged parts. Assuming manufacturing comes to Legion (which I am not at all opposed to) the change of current Dust style BPOs into something more akin to EVE:O style BPOs would, in my view, not be problematic. I would say that a bit of a bonus to things like effecincy on them derived from the original purchase date would not be amiss as a nod to all the players who supported Dust 514 even during closed beta when all gains from those BPOs were wiped with every new build, but even this courtesy is not strictly required per se. All of this is of course assuming that Legion chooses to handle all equivalent assets in this manner, otherwise it becomes game creep and/or runs into the same breach of trust problem as outright removal of assets due to the rebranding of the Dust-Legion franchise/game. Bottom line is that, especially within a F2P micro-transaction game maintaining the long term fidelity of value for player purchases is fundamental to sustaining player trust and by extension the long term viability and health of the game. 0.02 ISK Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3450	Posted - 2014.05.22 18:03:00 - [65] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.) Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects. Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust. I believe in this case that supporting the community trumps eradicating a mild ISK advantage, both within light of New Eden precedent via EVE:O and to maintain persistence between Dust 514 and Project Legion. Without sound/renewed player trust the F2P micro-transaction method will be in a bad spot. By broken mechanic I was referring to the uproar over CCP removing BPOGÇÖs for stuff that was no longer in the game. If CCP feels that a module or other item does not work the way it was intended, they should have the right to remove that item from the game to make the game better. I donGÇÖt agree with CCP being restricted in what they can remove from the game just because there was a BPO for that item. When CCP removed items from DUST and some players had BPOGÇÖs for those items, they were given the AUR value of the BPO back. I thought that was fair. But a lot of people freaked out over it. Maybe they should have just been allowed to keep the BPOGÇÖs that could not be fitted to a suit or serve any other useful purpose, because they seemed quite attached to them. Maybe if there was a player market those things might have some value to collectors. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2117	Posted - 2014.05.22 18:31:00 - [66] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.) Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. Suits should be a non-issue based on CCP Zs presentation at FanFest, thought I would say that the BPO suits which have zero skill requirements could be altered to contain the proper requirements without any ill effects. Other BPO's: To be blunt, it's not a broken mechanic but it would be a broken promise/trust on the part of CCP. Unless we assume there will be no starter fits, which I do not see how we can assume such based on the history of both Dust and EVE, as well as the fundamental drawbacks of their absence (i.e. players can be bankrupted completely out of the game), then the mechanical advantage of a Dust style BPO militia mod is exceedingly minimal. Also the statement that maintenance of BPOs is about a 2 year hold purchase alone is tangibly inaccurate. EVE: The Second Decade Collectors Edition is on sale right now in the EVE Store (as of the time of this post). Further even within EVE:O where asset change is much more reasonable, as you are paying a subscription for world access not a specific fee for a specific item, T2 BPOs still exist - and those items have vastly more impact on economics and New Eden at large than a MLT CPU upgrade for example. The precedent is set by CCP and adhered to even currently within EVE:O, revoking it in this specific sub-case violates persistence and player trust. I believe in this case that supporting the community trumps eradicating a mild ISK advantage, both within light of New Eden precedent via EVE:O and to maintain persistence between Dust 514 and Project Legion. Without sound/renewed player trust the F2P micro-transaction method will be in a bad spot. By broken mechanic I was referring to the uproar over CCP removing BPOGÇÖs for stuff that was no longer in the game. If CCP feels that a module or other item does not work the way it was intended, they should have the right to remove that item from the game to make the game better. I donGÇÖt agree with CCP being restricted in what they can remove from the game just because there was a BPO for that item. When CCP removed items from DUST and some players had BPOGÇÖs for those items, they were given the AUR value of the BPO back. I thought that was fair. But a lot of people freaked out over it. Maybe they should have just been allowed to keep the BPOGÇÖs that could not be fitted to a suit or serve any other useful purpose, because they seemed quite attached to them. Maybe if there was a player market those things might have some value to collectors. Understood and thank you for the clarifications. I do feel that the case of character transfer from D514 to Legion is a bit different. Player market in that case would have been a possible alleviation, as would "transmutation" rather than removal (i.e. conversion of the BPO into a copy of the nearest equivalent BPO). To be honest, while in retrospect is worth considering I usually lean towards focusing my feedback on the situation moving forward. In this case I don't expect BPOs from Dust to be moved to Legion with their identical stats, names, and appearances. However providing players with BPOs of the nearest Legion equivalent in all cases (be that BPOs in the current Dust sense or in a more EVE:O sense) is on balance the most reasonable choice. In essence CCP must take care, for while they should not be bound to maintain broken mechanics they need to maintain the fidelity of persistence within the sandbox and within their micro-transaction offerings. Adapt or die only works when adaptation is derived from player choice not a sort of mechanical or iterative game of chance. Cheers, Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 156	Posted - 2014.05.22 19:10:00 - [67] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead. Man, that last sentence sounds like it was tacked on the end [Saberwing though bubble] There.... theres something off about my comments. Talking about content, check. Preliminary, check.... CRAP! This is too optimistic! I need to remind them Legion isn't a project yet even though I'm already talking about work that isn't scheduled for several months. I KNOW!!! Disclaimer that Legion isn't green lit yet [/Saberwing thought bubble]
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 154	Posted - 2014.05.23 02:33:00 - [68] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Skin Weaves are supposed to be the beta only thing. So how about something for dust 514 only guys? It took me 1 year to noticed that I had CaldaI and Minmatar skineweave dropsuits >_>... in my Inventory. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2048	Posted - 2014.05.23 04:34:00 - [69] - Quote John Psi wrote: In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP. Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust We deserve them. A special item in our inventory? "Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet. "Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon) "Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits. "Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?) Vanity inventory items FTWs! Because you wanted to be something you're not.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 461	Posted - 2014.05.23 10:39:00 - [70] - Quote Can't we get sets of "muder flaylocks", "Jihad Jeeps", "Sniper forge guns", "invincible triple repper Madrugar", "pointless militia swarmer", "700 ehp dampened scout suit", "precision HMG" and other highly valuable items that show our experience with the various versions and bugs of Dust?

Kain Spero 3577	Posted - 2014.05.23 20:49:00 - [71] - Quote I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3430	Posted - 2014.05.23 20:53:00 - [72] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Im now hypothetically a hypothetical sad panda, maybe. Or just high. Eve Legion FTW!
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 466	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:28:00 - [73] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Dusters? Who the hell says "Dusters"? The word to use is "Dustbunnies".
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3430	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:30:00 - [74] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Kain Spero wrote: I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. Dusters? Who the hell says "Dusters"? The word to use is "Dustbunnies". I prefer ground dwelling scum but aye. Eve Legion FTW!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3473	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:27:00 - [75] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I think another good way to pay homage to Dust 514 players would be to have the term "Dusters" canonized in the New Eden lore. Having the term used in a piece of fiction would go a long way to immortalizing Dust players and the trail they blazed for Project Legion. You mean like this? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2002	Posted - 2014.05.24 00:24:00 - [76] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: John Psi wrote: In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP. Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust We deserve them. A special item in our inventory? "Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet. "Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon) "Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits. "Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?) Vanity inventory items FTWs! WTB Bag of Dead Bunnies. Minmatar Weapons Specialist Explosives Connoisseur Logi for Hire
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2407	Posted - 2014.05.24 01:11:00 - [77] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: John Psi wrote: In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP. Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust We deserve them. A special item in our inventory? "Big Pile of DUST"- A Mysterious pile of DUST made of various metals with weapon components mixed in that is just sitting in the closet. "Outgrown Suits"- These seem a bit tight... (With one of the Suit icons from DUST, provided again, we change said icon) "Bag of Dead Bunnies"- Even when you throw some out, they keep coming back. Someone, some where is killing all the rabbits here. The Rabbits. "Foreign Computer Console"-A strangely shaped black box which, although apparently has power and output terminals, and is clearly a computer, with a oddly shaped script on it. (Picture or Sketch of a PS3 perhaps?) Vanity inventory items FTWs! WTB Bag of Dead Bunnies. That'll be 1 mil ISK sir. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2014.05.25 20:00:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. What about dust ps4 players you gonna leave us in the dark ill play Valkyrie but not much i want a fps to do so, if not planetside 2 will have a good dust 514 vet to run with them
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8702	Posted - 2014.05.25 21:16:00 - [79] - Quote Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. What about dust ps4 players you gonna leave us in the dark ill play Valkyrie but not much i want a fps to do so, if not planetside 2 will have a good dust 514 vet to run with them From what I heard, PS2 is not in a very good condition right now. Performance issues Lack of meaningful content Updates taking too long New player experience is lacking completely Sound familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh_nBeP80ac&list=PLk8RCHiu-6X3eFAt--yfMwBlPt8yswfW5&feature=share&index=6 On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Void Echo Total Extinction 2600	Posted - 2014.05.26 05:30:00 - [80] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Can you transfer our Dust names over to Legion? It shouldn't be too hard as long as the email used in Dust and in Legion match up at least. I also have an Eve account that shares the same email if it makes it easier for you. I believe this is certainly the plan. Honestly CCP, my name is the only thing I want to keep within the EVE universe, I could care less about the SP or the ISK if I can keep my name. Your comment has given me some interest in Legion only and if only it gets ported over to the PS4. Closed Beta Vet. Playstation 4 or nothing CCP. Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2144	Posted - 2014.05.26 20:12:00 - [81] - Quote What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8709	Posted - 2014.05.26 20:34:00 - [82] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10299	Posted - 2014.05.26 21:11:00 - [83] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Cross Atu wrote: What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words. Markdown:
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 157	Posted - 2014.05.27 08:53:00 - [84] - Quote Only thing I care about keeping in this game is: MY NAME MY Lifetime SP MY Officer gear and BPOs MY ISK. Spent time since open beta working to get everything that I've put real life time and enjoyment into. For a game that's suppose to be a 10 year plan like EVE, that should be the only thing that matters. THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS. *TRUE LOGi* \|Director of Fatal Absolution & LOD\| \|Ringer Hub Creator\| Skype: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3495	Posted - 2014.05.27 12:08:00 - [85] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cross Atu wrote: What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words. There are LP in both DUST and EVE. There will likely be LP in Legion. I donGÇÖt see any reason why it would not be transferred. As with SP, the LP may have to be run through a formula to make a proportional conversion, if the value of LP is different in Legion, but it should transfer and be worth around the same amount. As fare as the conversion formula I would be inclined to use the cost of a racial Infantry Rifle as the constant in the conversion formula. Calculate how many Assault Rifles you can purchase with your Gallente LP, then calculate how much LP it would take to get the same number of Plasma Rifles in Legion. Then give you that amount of LP. Same for your Amarr LP using Scrambler Rifles. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10327	Posted - 2014.05.28 20:47:00 - [86] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cross Atu wrote: What about standings with the NPC empires, how will transfer of these be handled? I'm guessing it will depend on how different Factional Warfare will be. It might be possible to transfer your standings over to Legion, but I doubt your LP will be coming with it. Welp my 70,000 Amarr LP weep at those words. There are LP in both DUST and EVE. There will likely be LP in Legion. I donGÇÖt see any reason why it would not be transferred. As with SP, the LP may have to be run through a formula to make a proportional conversion, if the value of LP is different in Legion, but it should transfer and be worth around the same amount. As fare as the conversion formula I would be inclined to use the cost of a racial Infantry Rifle as the constant in the conversion formula. Calculate how many Assault Rifles you can purchase with your Gallente LP, then calculate how much LP it would take to get the same number of Plasma Rifles in Legion. Then give you that amount of LP. Same for your Amarr LP using Scrambler Rifles. Reassuring somewhat. Its possibly the only value besides SP I worry about. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA The DOT MAFIA 5	Posted - 2014.05.28 22:22:00 - [87] - Quote CCP: The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO!
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 104	Posted - 2014.05.29 04:23:00 - [88] - Quote The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: CCP: The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO! there are no proto gear in legion, only common, uncommon and rare tiers of gear, so those two should be in the RARE tier then. let us transfer our BPOs,stats,gear,ISK and SP to legion pl0x! Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya. AMARRIAN4LYFE
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2052	Posted - 2014.05.31 19:37:00 - [89] - Quote HA! I have it. If we are going to get the WiS from EVE (along with the screen we saw in the keynote) then have the walls have 514 Painted in Red Very sloppily (or, give the option to change it between Sloppy and Neat and Amarrian). Never forget... Because you wanted to be something you're not.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2491	Posted - 2014.05.31 20:36:00 - [90] - Quote tander09 wrote: The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: CCP: The DRAGON FLY scout and TOXIN SMG should be PROTO! there are no proto gear in legion, only common, uncommon and rare tiers of gear, so those two should be in the RARE tier then. It's just renamed STD ADV and PROTO................. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-



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